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Beep & Dig... Or. " Utilize The new technology"

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Elton

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As we all know Beep & Dig detectors are just that. The detector makes a sound over a target, and depending on discrimination set by us we dig.. Best scenario is dig it all to be sure.
Tried and true .......many many years of reliable detecting.

"OR"

Do we try the new technology in the recent release detectors

Analyse screens, Colored screens, Confidence meters, Accurate Target Id via Digital numbers, Wireless headphones, Feo Meters, Depth Meters, Tone Id's with process modes built in, 40 levels of iron discrimination, water proof Coin, and Gold detectors, Higher frequencies, Three frequency machines, 28 frequency machines for better iding and target location............Auto ground balance, Ground Balance on the fly, DD coils.
Built in loop selection, Selectable ground filters , Depth indicator as we detect, BP modes & Cache modes for detecting in high grass, or deeply buried target caches... and that is just some of the great strides Metal Detector Manufacturers have made in recent times ............

Myself I'm going to go with the new ........I like the new features offered....... I want to try them all........... Advancement is good in my opinion.. If it's available I want it....

What do you think............ same old, same old, or move onwards and upwards in our hobby.............. It's our choice ............. We asked for improvements.. They listened to us...
 
great question elton...in my opinion the first time thru a site with many many targets the discrim might stay a little higher than usual in hopes of cherry picking the so called good targets or easy pickins.....as i go back to these sites time after time the game changes as the easy finds disapear....i guess the real answer is i try to use which ever machine i think will give me the most productive hunt as per location and conditions.and when the targets disapear its time to get creative with your settings....having a variety of machines in the arsenal can really make a big difference too as i have found some machines work much better at some sites than others and visa-versa....its hit and miss depending on location and conditions,, when the fish stop biting we dont keep using the same bait...we try something different till we get back into the action...just my humble opinion.....
 
This is why I have 3 detectors ..... 2 Minelab units (E-Trac and X-Terra 705 and the Garrett AT Pro).
 
I in no way meant to imply beep and dig wasn't good........... It's proven.... I'm just saying strides have been made for the good, and if we can we should try them..
Shoot I have an Old XLt that I think is overall a great detector..but I do like the new stuff on the V3i........ It's improvement..that is what I am saying.......Technology has advanced..
 
Some of the new stuff seems like flashy gimmicks to sell detectors.
Not sure which ones have proven advances.
 
I agree Elton, advancement is good. There are many times I just want to use the beep and dig, and other times I want to use a machine with more bells and refinement. But, the machines can't be slouches. Keeps it fun.
 
The beep and digs that i own are not like most and have proven themselves to me quite a bit, the ones i own you can totaly disc on the knob and keep nickels or non ferrous metals, iron is gone unless its real big and when it does break through theres no mistake or you can go by dual tone, its proven to me if i concentrate on my sound alone, having confidence in your machine and thats for any machine and learn it you will be successful, I just believe in true simplicity and got more finds with a beep and dig more than any other machine, just my 2 cents
 
I've only been detecting a few months. I started out with a harbor freight MDer, quickly moved to a BH, and shortly thereafter, I got my first VDI detector, an F2. While I can appreciate the simplicity of beep/dig machines, I much rather let the numbers(and now numbers and tones with my new-to-me DFX) "thumb the knobs" for me. Also, I guess it's partially a personal preference...I seem to be able to decide much quicker if i want to dig a target based on VDI, in addition to moderate audio input rather than just audio or visual segmented disc/audio alone. I can say that moving up from the F2 to the DFX is a bit intimidating, but I'm learning to love every bit of info the DFX is giving me, especially since it's depth of customization will allow me, once I get the full swing of the machine down, push it, and get the most out of whatever type of site I choose to hunt(aside from underwater, lol).
 
There is a time and place for any type of detector and of course, personal preferences predominates. If you really like the machine you are using and having fun, that is all that matters.

I am blessed to have three detectors that I really like for three different kinds of detecting. The Tesoro Cibola modified is my fun machine, I can hunt anytime anyplace and have a blast but when I am hunting deep silver and coppers, I reach for the Minelab SE W/ SEF 10X12. For all other general hunting including deep relics in the 12 inch level, it is the White's V3i... hands down.

So it is not what machine is best but what machine is best FOR YOU!
 
I am getting to old (bad back) to dig every darn signal. So I put the extra effort into learning particular VDI/audio combinations through intensive bench testing with co-located junk/coins/jewelry objects . Plus there is so much aluminum/foil junk, that masquerades as good signals, over what existed 20 yrs ago. One can only dig so many holes in a day's time.
 
I got a little excited when I read about the V3i and the screen features. THEN, I went to their forum and the guys let me know there was STILL no way to tell a ring from the pulltab-not even using the graph with the metal composition charts. I guess if there was a way, there would probably not be many left for those that have to work for it.
 
Yeah saw that video on the v3i on the White's website and the guy was still digging pull tabs and caps in the park. :laugh:
 
I would go with new technology. The new technology will not help tell you the difference between a pull tab and gold ring, but it will help you find deep coins and unmasked coins and other keepers next to pieces of junk. That is the true value of the new technology. I went from a top of the line single-frequency metal detector with all the bells and the whistles and VDI meter to a multi-frequency detector that had no VDI meter and I never looked back. I took my multi-frequency back to the places I have detected before and found many old coins and other items that single-frequency with VDI did not find. When doing a head to head comparison between the two detectors on signals that were deep buried masked coins, I found that most of the time the single-frequency would not give a good sound or maybe just a chirp and the multi-frequency detector gave me the indication that it could be a good target. I was amazed on how many good coins I found that were masked. I am saying new technology is perfect, which it is not, but it definitely helps. In my opinion every metal detector is a beep and dig, but if you don't get the beeps how are you going to dig?

John
 
Back when I started beep and dig was all there was. But the percentages of good targets was much higher so at the end of the day I usually had a sucessfull hunt. Probably the best machine I had through those times was a Tesoro Golden Sabre II. Now 40 years later I own a couple of Minelabs and a Teknetics machine all of which I have fun with but the quantity and mystery with the beep and dig machines is gone. Now the mystery most of the time is solved before the target is dug so hopefully quality is there. My how times has changed. HH :minelab:
 
"But the percentages of good targets was much higher so at the end of the day I usually had a sucessfull hunt."

I do envy you guys that started in this 20+ years ago. I'm more patient than I used to be and that's probably why I'm still doing this. If I were 20 something today I probably wouldn't last long and would have sold off my detectors a couple years ago. Its also why its just one of my hobbies and not my chief hobby. The way its going this is probably going to wind up a hobby with about as many members as the hand letter writing society. However, I will say this, if I hear one more horror story about unfilled holes or damaged property, from somebody I'm asking permission from, I'll scream. These people will kill off the hobby faster than a lack of targets.

To answer the original question though, I would say that you need to have one of each to be successful anymore. The new technology allows for good sorting in heavily trashed areas that were probably given up on by the beep and dig crowd and the beep and dig machines are still needed for those of us that want the lightest detector and are digging more of the trash in hopes of finding something that was masked or just is too deep to be correctly ID'ed. Just my opinion of course. If you're really good/experienced with either type I'm sure you'll do fine. I need both because I can't devote lots of hours each week to doing this.
 
my beep and dig vaquero and analog cz5 have done a great job finding coins for me. I don't like digital detectors and don't want something I have to fool with for 30 minutes to set it up for hunting.
In my 30 plus years of detecting, I have used most all of the fisher 1200x series detectors for many of those years, so that is what I'm used to using. Tried digital detectors and didn't like them at all.
As long as I have a detector with good depth and good disc I will find as much or more than the detectors with all the bells and whistles.

Roger
 
I like the new technology. I never have been a dig every beep hunter. By the early part of next year I will have been at this great hobby for forty years and I must admit to being amazed where detectors have evolved. Unmasking, tone id, digging foot deep targets, light weight detectors....yes, I like the new technology. Still, though, knowing what one is swinging well, still trumps all. HH jim tn
 
El, I like it when somebody writes a post about the thing that I think about almost every time I turn on a detector. I have used many beep and dig detectors and have made some good finds with them. I am always thinking that "going back to the basics" might be a good thing, but after I buy a beep and dig detector, I start missing the tones and display. I will take a display detector with tone id and set it up with little discrimination and look and listen to all the metal that passes under the coil. It will be music to my ears and eyes. R.L.
 
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