Attention E-trac & Explorer owners that have decided not to upgrade! Please post your "hunted out" locations below for CTX owners to "practice" their

[Guvner]

n/t

 

[Jason in TN]

I had my doubts that the CTX was any thing more than a Etrac with a few bells and whistles when it was announced and first came out after over 100 hours of use water and beach hunting I am now convinced that it is a different and better detector for sure.

Jason

 

[Erik in NJ]

to consider, such as variability in the same model detector/coil, soil moisture content, etc. I agree that these comparisons are best conducted in various locations, with varying moisture, etc. but at some point it becomes impractical or the differences become negligible. To be practical the comparisons need to be done by a single person on multiple in situ targets with a CTX, eTrac, and SE Pro. The user needs to try multiple combinations of settings on each machine to be fair (with the other machines turned off).

Bottom line for me is that the CTX has enough enhancements for me to make it worth my while to justify the cost--I realize the price point is out of many people's reach in this economy. This I feel is one of the most compelling reasons for the divisiveness over this machine. Antagonizing posts like the root post of this thread don't help either.

I don't recall as much friction with the Explorer camp when the eTrac came out.

I enjoy the factual debate but am in multiple camps with my Explorer XS, SE Pro, eTrac, and CTX. If I had an X-1 probe on the CTX I'd be a much happier camper tho

 

[Ray-Mo.]

Very good points Eric.
.As for the E-Trac's release....I remember a lot of negativity from the Explorer camp cause I had to deal with it as the E-Trac mod. Everything from the biggest waste of money ever to the ferrous 12 line is stupid and will never work.Over 3 years later and many of those very same naysayers are more than pleased with their E-Tracs performance.

It will take some time for many of the long time Explorer users to warm up to the CTX as well because they are in many case comparing a machine they have thousands of hours on to a very different machine that they have not even learned all the different functions and combinations of settings.Just a matter of human nature to cling to the old comfortable "faithfull" over a new unknown.

 

[Chris(SoCenWI)]

The question is how is it better? What is gained by changing the values of 95% of targets to the same value? Why have a 2D screen?

Chris

 

[mtwolf2270]

I agree that jabs do not foster a positive discussion but I must say they naysayers and drive by's were ridiculous on here. From guys who never swung, never saw, touched or used a CTX. Guys like Randy and others were getting attacked and I have been on this CTX forum since day 1. I was one of the first preorders for the CTX. I got so sick of people slamming the CTX and those of us who were willing to take the risk and get out and prove what we knew ML would deliver. If these people do not want to be jabbed then stick with what you think works best and stay off this forum or post your BS with fair warning that many of us will return fire. I owned my SE and several coils etc and I read the Etrac post I never attacked it cause at the time it was out of my price range same with White's v3i that is childish and just uncalled for. Like wise I never got on there and claimed my SE was better so to me the issues was not this post but those who keep coming over here trying to convince themselves they are right and we are all full of it. They are simply jealous or intentionally looking for trouble

 

[Ray-Mo.]

The question is how is it better? What is gained by changing the values of 95% of targets to the same value?

Guess you do not have any nails/iron at your sites considering 95% of your targets have same value of 12 I assume......
As far as good targets being in the 12 range I think it had to do with getting a much more constant ID and with extreme depth the 12 line would often drop down to as low 1 giving me a very good indication of a silver coin or an Indian head penny in conjunction with the conductive ID numbers.

And as far as what "nobody said". Do you in fact claim to be privy to every remark ever uttered/posted concerning the ferrous 12 line on the E-Trac or did you just just decide to basically call me a liar with no evidence to collaborate you post title????

 

[sube]

I like the ferrous line 12 less #s to remember if its a 12.00 to 12.50 it's none ferrous what could be easier it's a improvement that well stay.And guys do you think minelab would come out with a detector that cost this much and have no advantage over the last model they made get real ,separation and speed is where it's at 90 percent of the coins left out there are masked and maybe 10 percent are 9 plus inches i want a detector with separation and speed oh and this detector is also got punch just like your mine lab for that 10 percent.As far as price this thing is going to be cheap compared to when they come out with the 6060 ctx lol. sube