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Asking Permission? - Please share your tips

Don't think she would have been interested in your pinpointer...unless you carried it in your pants pocket...Jim
 
I usually don't ask private property owner's for permission for a lot of different reasons.But if you do be honest and straight forward.Most people will probably say no because they don't want some stranger walking around their yard with a metal detector not to mention digging the sod or grass up.LOL I don't want to look out my window and see someone roaming around the place.This is aggravation self inflicted.Most of these old places the owner's would rather hunt them their selves.Anyway good luck.By the way my answer would be NO!! HH Ron
 
BUT

If I don't hunt the country old homesteads and in town Victorian houses I don't find the stuff that I am in the hobby for. The Old park is now the golf course and is off limits, I can't imagine all the goodies in there, maybe someday I'll get in there. So for now it's knocking on doors for permission. I live near an old town that was established in 1871 in southern Ks. where everbody knows everyone else, so if I did a good job at one neigbor's house I could usually do the whole block. Corner lot houses are my favorite place to hunt. I start at the strip of grass between the old brick sidewalks and curb of the street, this is usually the most productive spot in the whole yard. After doing this type of hunting for over 15 yrs. it comes naturally to me, and the people that give me the go ahead usally invite me back or give references to other homeowners. It just takes practice and persistance to make this hobby an interesting one rather than going back to that pounded out old high school or park.

Research is the key to good finds. I lucked out a couple of months ago, while detecting at an old pounded out ballfield (i was tired and did not want to ask permission) I was just wanting to detect. I was just plugging away at this ballpark and this gentleman stopped by to talk detecting. So I pulled my headphones off and we talked for a while and he said " I've got something you might be interested in" so he drives off and comes back in a few minuites. He pulled a huge county atlas of my county out of the back seat of his car and we started to thumb through it. It is a fancy old atlas, leather bound and measures 18' X 18" in color and it is dated 1918! It's pages are yellowed and brittle, and half of the pages are torn, but it was all there. To make a long story short, I end up buying it from him and now it is in the proccess of getting it's pages laminated so I can put this treasure map to work.

Randy
 
Hombre that is a good find in itself,finding that old atlas.
Would defenately give you the in's of the old places:thumbup:
 
That atlas could keep you busy for years. Not sure how detailed it is , but wow. Awsome find for sure. I got to ask: How much did you pay?Seems he wanted to help, bet you got it for cheap.

I found one old map 1916, on line, of my county and I have refered to it alot.And it has terrible detail but enough to help me out.
 
OK flash

I'll try to answer a few of your questions: The lady that is doing the restoration of my atlas worked in the county deads office for many years, She said that this type of atlas was used in the county deeds office or in a tax/deed lawyer's office. It is very big 18inches by 18 inches and very detailed showing large maps of every old town in the county.Plus it has every township in detail, showing one room school houses, county churches, race tracks, fairgrounds, picnic groves etc. So yah, it will keep me busy well into retirement.

One of neatest things about the atlas is the back half of it, it is advertisements for the early store merchants. It also shows all of the early business's in town with horse and bugys and horse drawn wagons parked in the downtown area. The new cars were model T's, and very few of them in 1918 !!! Thanks for the interest!

Randy
 
Well how can I delete the duplicates?? :rofl: I hit post message last night and it was running forever. so I hit it serveral more times,, as you can see. Still didnt do anything so I closed the Internet window . I am surprized it posted anything really.


SORRY. thats one way to get an answer to a question though.

I dont see anyway that I can remove the duplicate messages.

BTW, that map could be one of the most valuable things for your hobby you could ask for. Could be a "one of a kind". And more than likley is. It could lead you to some super spots to detect. Very cool thing to have.
 
Am I missing something, or has the ability to edit or delete messages been taken away. I know there use to be an edit button and I think there use to be a delete message button as well??
 
Well I know you can edit a message but only within a certain amount of time after posting it, and I think only if you do not close the page. After that,,, there is nothing that I can see that can be done.
Close the page then come back and see if you edit or delete your message. If you can,, tell me how. lol . I have never had this happen b4 so I'm lost on it.
Other than being a little annoying it doesnt really matter so much. I really did not mean to do it. Sorry.
 
Dig - when you are looking up "town" rules and regs online for rules on metal detecting parks and schools - be careful to look into the areas where they talk about disturbing flora and fauna - most town regulations prohibit the disturbance of the ground, grass, etc - so theoretically, if you put a shovel in the grass you have broken town rules.
Just think about it - if those rules weren't there, you could go into the park and remove all the sod.
Obviously if you are careful with your plugs, you should have little problems.
The best advice is to go early or late and stay away from crowded areas. Trust me most park goers don't like seeing you pull a clump of grass and dirt out of the ground - you will get really dirty looks from them..and the nasty ones may in fact make a call to police or town hall.
 
BarryNY, if you consider "disturbing the vegetation" to be a disqualifier for metal detecting, (as you promote people should look for such wording), then we all might as well hang it up right now. Because such wording exists in ALL parks, schools, cities, county, state, etc..... (written in such a way as to be flexible, so as to be morphed to apply to a variety of situations). If we are to assume that applies to us, then we can all just hang it up right now in all turf everywhere. Yup, even places where no one seems to care, because if you look long enough, you will find that wording everywhere.

I however do not consider that applicable, because I do not intend to leave any trace of my presence, and do not intend to do damage. To think otherwise, we all might as well hang it up.

But then you conclude with the advice of just going at discreet off-traffic times. I agree with that. Not that we should think we're doing anything wrong mind you, but only to keep busy-bodies from making any assumptions, to begin with.
 
flash5153 said:
Frank1960:: As for an address,,, hmmmm. Its the second farmhouse on the left with the big oak in the front yard.There's no coins left in the yard, but if you stay there long enough,,, she will come out and talk to you.:rofl::clapping:

Ok is the Oak on the right side or left side of house? And you know just sitting somewhere waiting in front of a place is called peeping or stalking and very frowned on lol
 
Frank: You are correct. lmao. The oak is accually right in the middle of the front yard. I wouldnt advise just sitting there. Might want to swing the coil,I could have missed something.
If you swing it she will come. It might pay off ,in more ways than one,to keep yourself looking good while detecting.
The white stuff hit the ground today for the first time.
 
barryny said:
Trust me most park goers don't like seeing you pull a clump of grass and dirt out of the ground - you will get really dirty looks from them..and the nasty ones may in fact make a call to police or town hall.

If you're pulling a clump of grass out of the ground you should probably consider using better ground management - make a flap plug and put any excess dirt somewhere you can easily put it back in the hole (a frisbee works great) or on the shallower targets just use a screwdriver or probe to pop the target out.
 
This hobby is no different than deer hunting. Whether we are hunting relics or animals we have to go where the action is! and... I have found that private property reaps better rewards.Asking permission is the only way to go..
 
Hey Dig..This hobby is no different than deer hunting..I normally ask the owner if he will allow me to metal detect and that he is welcome to tag along..In most cases he assures me there is nothing of value there and ok as long as I do not dig conspicuous holes..
 
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