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Anyone else wondering why no tone I'd on the mojave

JASONSPAZ1

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Honest question no insults meant. But really, no tone I'd ?
 
What way would you prefer it be implemented? Low tone iron, high tone non-ferrous or, below disc point silent and adjustable low tone range? Other?
 
I suspect that the new Mojave is intended to replace the now very old Silver μMAX, wich is a step up from their very sucessful, but still entry level Compadre. It's my guess that the old Silver (since '98 as the Cutlass II μMAX, then later called Silver) was due for a replacement.

I'm also expecting another new announcement from Tesoro soon... :bouncy:
 
If I was Tesoro I wouldn't rush another machine announcement until the Mojave has had a chance to saturate the market.
 
Jackpine Savage said:
What way would you prefer it be implemented? Low tone iron, high tone non-ferrous or, below disc point silent and adjustable low tone range? Other?
As on my Royal Sabre. In regular discrimination, the notch level knob works as a tone splitter to vary the tone break from none and all high tones at minimum to varying low tone set points as it is increased. I have mine set where the two tones merge (mixed) at old style tabs. Nickels and below give a low tone, tabs a mixed tone, and clad a high tone. Some prefer to set it where the zincers split the tones. Very useful and they HAVE the technology. So simple and one doesn't absolutely have to use it.
 
Dancer said:
Let me get this straight. No difference in tone for all targets?
The present Mojave-no- same as other Tesoros. With a tone splitter you would have two tones- high and low. With careful adjustment, the two tones can merge (mix). I have mine mix at tabs. This essentially turns it into 3 tones- low tone for below tabs and high tone above tabs with tabs causing the mixed tone. If you are familiar with the Tracker lV you have it.
 
Dancer said:
Let me get this straight. No difference in tone for all targets?

In theory yes it is one tone.
But with enough time behind the machine,
It becomes pretty easy to distinguish most targets.
That single tones has a lot of small nuances to it.

Dig It All

Noah
 
Electricfrontporch said:
Dancer said:
Let me get this straight. No difference in tone for all targets?

In theory yes it is one tone.
But with enough time behind the machine,
It becomes pretty easy to distinguish most targets.
That single tones has a lot of small nuances to it

Dig It All

Noah

Like the Compared? No problem.
 
Well, the number of years we have waited for this new machine, Tesoro has come up miserably short of most peoples expectations. Don't get horny about anything else coming out anytime soon from them. Two tone id was one thing most people wanted. I'm willing to bet once all the hype over this has subsided, its not going to be a big hit. Heck, its not already with a lot of us now. Very disappointing actually. They need something on par with that AT-pro. Not meaning a digital screen either. Something waterproof to 10-15 feet would be a bigger hit. This detector just shows a minimum effort on their part in my opinion. That seems to be they way of Tesoro now days. Just pleasing the few instead of the many.
 
JASONSPAZ1 said:
Honest question no insults meant. But really, no tone I'd ?

Probably the price point. I agree with what another person posted, this looks to be a replacement of the silver umax and who knows maybe the compadre as well.

I don't know what the cost of electronics parts are or availability but I did read in researching a detector I just bought (golden umax) that Tesoro could no longer get a particular part for its production and that's why they stopped making it. Remember this happened with the Tiger Shark years back, the fitting that allowed coil changes was no longer available if I remember correctly. They eventually came back out with the Tiger but it took awhile. I would guess that may happen with another detector in the future that would incorporate the tones.

But as you can see from reading the posts, people are split on the four tones, or the tone split and so forth so theres always going to be that unsatisfied group no matter what Tesoro does.
 
I doubt they will ever do a tone id unit again. After they replaced the GSII with the Golden uMax, sales of the Golden were low. Most of the Tesoro fans are beep dig fans and I expect they will stay with the majority of their fans.

HH
Mike
 
I'm not a tone ID fan, but to each his own. However, the new Mojave fills the decent amount of detector for the buck range. My thought, from a sales standpoint It'll be competing with the Ace 250 and the like.
I think it will do well with newbies and those that want a thrifty priced back up, or extra.
BB
 
I relic hunt in iron infested colonial sites. Most relics I find are within 8 inches of the surface. With the very fast recovery speed and 180 disc. it should do well. Mine will be here by Saturday. It will be put to the proof on Sunday. Ground conditions change fast in Virginia.
 
on the Mojave, having a fixed lower tone for Iron would have been nice. Nothing that you could adjust though. Perhaps that's why it's not there, because with that GB switch from high to low, the fixed tone setting for iron may not work as well... but I don't know.

Regarding tones in general, I own the Golden and I like it, but it's a shallow machine with GB adjustment (on the outside). It definitely has its uses, especially for park hunting, but if you don't dig everything above iron, you could miss gold, so many who dig it all say they don't really need tones... but I
Ike them.

Now concerning an adjustable tone break feature... I think this would really only make sense on something like the Tejon, that has two discriminatory, or else you use a stacked/double knob like on the Pantera. The point being, with tone break, you want to disc out lower conductors and then use a tone break feature for stuff ABOVE where you the disc set. On the Tejon, I would love to see a mode switch added that would let you use it as it is now, or switch it into "tone break mode" and use it as I just described.... that would be pretty cool, and useful I think, as an option.
 
Stop your crying babies! with I wished they did that, I want that on it, why didn't they make it two tone...... Your bashing a new detector from Tesoro for havens sakes before it even has a chances ! I for one would be happy to own one if I had the $$$$. I use a Cutlass II µMax and it has distinct subtle tones differences between coins, tabs and iron etc. so why does it need two tone? I for one applaud Tesoro and stand behind them just IMHO
 
I really hope the next Tesoro brings a stacked tone break knob back, or something like a threshold feature that can be set to constant on in disc that nulls over iron. Also waterproof and in a micromax housing. That being said, one of my favorite detectors is my silver sabre micromax and the only Tesoro I have have bought brand new is the Mojave! Mine is being shipped today! Bells and whistles are fun and nice to have but when it comes down to it Tesoro's do what Tesoro's do and they do it better than anyone!
 
You are correct sir.
 
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