RICK IN KY
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Any Word on the New G2, Relic Season is almost Here !!!
- Thread starter RICK IN KY
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They are supposed to be released mid Sept. according to the factory rep. I spoke with. Their advertisement in the Eastern&Western magazine said the G-2 is the best multi-use machine to hit the market. With all the machines they have out there( T-2&Omega) for example it will have to be awfully good. Hope so I'm going to try one and see. Still have to get that coil over a target. HH 
Yes, I know there are plenty of "relic hunters" on this and other forums, but we also have to admit that the bulk of the US-based metal detecting hobby is consumed by "coin hunters."
Myself, I hunt coins in urban environments like most of them, but for decades (41+ years) I have favored working ghost towns, pioneer and military encampments, homesteads, old recreation resorts and the like in search of ALL 'neat stuff." Of course "neat stuff" might often center on coins and coin-like targets such as trade tokens, but it includes other fun finds like buttons and old jewelry, bullets and cartridge cases or complete cartridges, etc. So, with that said, I know what [size=large]I[/size] look for in a "relic hunting" detector, but I wonder just how many typical "coin hunters" are curious why a "relic hunter" is interested in a detector basically aimed at "gold nugget hunters?"
If you wouldn't mind, how about sharing what features and performance you are interested in with the Teknetics G2? I know I have my thoughts on it and how to have one in hand before I venture off to a few Utah and Nevada ghost towns very soon. Sure, my T2 and Omega can get the job done, but I also think the G2 will provide me (us) with some elements of enhanced performance for what we're after without the unnecessary 'coin hunter" type visual target ID. Oh, the VDI numbers will be plenty of help, but I don't mind getting by without the segment icons most popular models now feature.
Want to share your thoughts? Relate what types of sites you'll hunt and maybe include a comment or two about the makes and models you presently use for "relic hunting."
I hope you and other relic chasers don't mind this discussion.
Monte
Myself, I hunt coins in urban environments like most of them, but for decades (41+ years) I have favored working ghost towns, pioneer and military encampments, homesteads, old recreation resorts and the like in search of ALL 'neat stuff." Of course "neat stuff" might often center on coins and coin-like targets such as trade tokens, but it includes other fun finds like buttons and old jewelry, bullets and cartridge cases or complete cartridges, etc. So, with that said, I know what [size=large]I[/size] look for in a "relic hunting" detector, but I wonder just how many typical "coin hunters" are curious why a "relic hunter" is interested in a detector basically aimed at "gold nugget hunters?"
If you wouldn't mind, how about sharing what features and performance you are interested in with the Teknetics G2? I know I have my thoughts on it and how to have one in hand before I venture off to a few Utah and Nevada ghost towns very soon. Sure, my T2 and Omega can get the job done, but I also think the G2 will provide me (us) with some elements of enhanced performance for what we're after without the unnecessary 'coin hunter" type visual target ID. Oh, the VDI numbers will be plenty of help, but I don't mind getting by without the segment icons most popular models now feature.
Want to share your thoughts? Relate what types of sites you'll hunt and maybe include a comment or two about the makes and models you presently use for "relic hunting."
I hope you and other relic chasers don't mind this discussion.
Monte
johnnybegood
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They do say the T2 is the best relic machine on the market.Actually eastern/western treasure had an article about it
and the T2s in the hunt came ahead with flying colors....
and the T2s in the hunt came ahead with flying colors....
According to Western&Eastern Treasure magazine July 2010 page 35 new G-2 comes standard with 11inch waterproof search coil 19khz The Best Multi-Purpose Unit Ever Made. Like I said before that is quite a statement coming from a company that already has some pretty good machines out there. I hope it's true because I will have one. HH
I have no doubt the the G-2 will be a great machine, but to say that it is the only aimed at relics is another story. I have the GB SE with the 11" Biaxial coil and at 19kHz it acts alot like the old Troy X5. Hot on smaller items that I and others have missed. Yes I'm a relic hunter by nature, but I think either machine will prove to be a universal hunting machine. I think the only difference will be the price, since the G-2 will have the 11" coil as a stock coil, where as the GB SE comes with the 5" DD and you have to pay $199 for the 11" DD. Last weekends hunt is a great example of the GB SE's capability to get the goods in a worked out site.
Using the Gold Bug SE with the 11 inch DD coil, which is probably as close as you can get to the upcoming G2, I have found the unit to be a great coin hunter. The ID numbers in discriminate mode are very helpful, especially when hunting in trash. Coins in the 1-7 inch range ID very accurately...as depth increases after that, the ID's are not as reliable ( which almost everyone knows that's the case and you almost always have to dig deep targets in older areas). But for cherry picking trashy parks and dry sand areas for coins, you can eliminate digging a lot of foil and aluminum pieces
Numbers like 46-47 are almost always foil....56-57 nickels, 85-86 are quarters (silver and clad but bottle caps sometimes hit in that range too and going into all metal helps alot in identifying bottle caps), mid 70's zincs and 81-83 dimes ( clad and silver) and copper pennies.
I would think the G2 will be similar and will be a great coin hunter.
Maybe at some point a 7 inch concentric will be made available for coin shooting, but I have heard that, at least with the Gold Bug, that is is only designed for DD coils ( CANNOT confirm that !).
JC
Numbers like 46-47 are almost always foil....56-57 nickels, 85-86 are quarters (silver and clad but bottle caps sometimes hit in that range too and going into all metal helps alot in identifying bottle caps), mid 70's zincs and 81-83 dimes ( clad and silver) and copper pennies.
I would think the G2 will be similar and will be a great coin hunter.
Maybe at some point a 7 inch concentric will be made available for coin shooting, but I have heard that, at least with the Gold Bug, that is is only designed for DD coils ( CANNOT confirm that !).
JC
BuckeyeBrad
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Especially since you mention the VDI number read-outs which I rely on far more than a coin-hunting 'icon' segment. I still encounter too many hobbyists who seem to want a 'lock-on' target ID name or segment, then they wonder why they don't always get the deeper coins and/or those too close to masking trash. then, too, you have an advantage in beach hunting as recovery is generally easy, much like I can when working a lot of wood-chip playgrounds. No strenuous dirt digging, just quicker and easier recover so you can get back to the business of detecting! 
I am still a big promoter of concentric coils, so I can favor your mention of a 7" concentric. For years, actually most of the 46 that I've been at this sport, I have used a 5"-7" coil on any make or model when such a coil was available. I like my 11" DD on the T2, and I sometimes use the big 11" DD on my Omega, but most of the time I run the Omega with the stock sub-10" elliptical concentric coil. One reason I like it is the elliptical shape and performance it provides. Maybe I ought to clarify because I've been using my Omega with both the 10" concentric and round 5" DD.
Through the latter part of August I was enjoying such success with the 5" coil that I opted to leave it mounted on my Omega for September. I state all this because while I, too, like a concentric coil of about 7" size, the 5" DD is quite impressive on my Omega! I look forward to using this Double-D coil on my G-2, when I get it, because I hunt a lot of very trashy sites. Have you worked the 5" D-D on your GB-SE against another brand detectors with a 7" coil? Really, few detectors makers other than Tesoro have offered a 7" concentric coil, and White's still offers their 6
I note that you are also making use of the 11" DD BiAxial coil. Logical for working a wide-open beach area, to be sure. Also, quite correct on the VDI read-outs as it relates to typical coin depths where you have a functional good VDI reading range, and then you go after the iffies and less-accurate VDI's. Like you said, "most everyone knows that's the case," but I often wonder how long it takes a newcomer or even the occasional detecting hobbyists who's been at it for a while to figure that out. Way too many of them want a guaranteed 'lock-on' all the time.therover said:
Just remember that if you change search coils, the VDI number read-out can also vary a little bit. I state this for all readers and not you specifically. Still, mastering the detector and coil in use can certainly help eliminate a lot of trash. As for the pesky bottle caps, it's not that difficult to classify them as likely just if they are in the 1' to 4" range, where they usually are, by using a little technique.therover said:
There's no doubt in my mind that both the Gold Bug SE and the coming G-2 are going to find a number of loyal users for coin hunting, just as they will serve the avid relic hunter. I think it's mainly going to call for the individual settling in to learning the detector well and relying on the VDI read-out and not relying on more generalized iron segment categories.therover said:
Through the years I have been one of the strongest supporters of concentric coil use, and have not been a big defender of wide-scan (Double-D) coils. One of the reasons for that is because many manufacturers of old didn't make a decent D-D coil. Certainly they fell short of general performance against their own concentric coil designs and depth, or lack there of, was uninspiring. Also, many manufacturers didn't make a D-D coil for the more modern detector offerings. That said, times have changed!therover said:
I am still a big promoter of concentric coils, so I can favor your mention of a 7" concentric. For years, actually most of the 46 that I've been at this sport, I have used a 5"-7" coil on any make or model when such a coil was available. I like my 11" DD on the T2, and I sometimes use the big 11" DD on my Omega, but most of the time I run the Omega with the stock sub-10" elliptical concentric coil. One reason I like it is the elliptical shape and performance it provides. Maybe I ought to clarify because I've been using my Omega with both the 10" concentric and round 5" DD.
Through the latter part of August I was enjoying such success with the 5" coil that I opted to leave it mounted on my Omega for September. I state all this because while I, too, like a concentric coil of about 7" size, the 5" DD is quite impressive on my Omega! I look forward to using this Double-D coil on my G-2, when I get it, because I hunt a lot of very trashy sites. Have you worked the 5" D-D on your GB-SE against another brand detectors with a 7" coil? Really, few detectors makers other than Tesoro have offered a 7" concentric coil, and White's still offers their 6
While the T2 is a versatile detector, I have preferred it more for open area searches. Relic hunting and deep coin hunting, but then came the Omega 8000 into my personal arsenal. After just a short bit of detecting I did some 'reshuffling' and parted with my other brands of detectors. I really like the White's MXT for a number of logical reasons (such as the primary design engineer ), but prefer the lighter weight of the Omega, and especially the Ground Balance adjustment options of the Omega and more valuable visual information.
I then determined that, with all three coils for the Omega and when compared afield with the T2, for me and most of my daily hunting needs, the Omega provided me with better coin hunting TID on some of the mid-range to deeper coins than the T2. It has better deeper-coin lock-on, so to speak, and just works better for me for a lot of the quick work I do in an urban environment. Still, while the TID information locks on better than the T2, for me, they both produce very versatile VDI read-outs and that is what I rely on the most.
One problem I have is that while I often hunt alone I also spend time afield with some good friends or one of my sons and in tighter quarters, working closely, there can be some detector cross-talk. If my son, for example, is using Delta, I can offset the frequency a little with my Omega and we can hunt okay, but it would be nice to have a different frequency all together, as long as there's no cross interference. Yes, I could grab my T2, but I have a feeling the G-2 is going to become a main-use detector in my arsenal.
It will have the feel and balance I like about my Omega, share the same coils, provide all the adjustment I want and the VDI display, but also give me an 'edge' in some cases with the higher operating frequency. Naturally, it will be the unit I grab first when I go nugget hunting, but for all the other detecting I do the most I am sure it will cause a bit of "reshuffling" and might easily end up at the top on the list. I'd hate to bump the Omega to #2 so maybe I'll just work with both of them and decide which one I prefer with a certain coil and then leave them ready-to-go with the coil I want for certain sites?
I look forward to talking with dealers about the G-2 along with the other Teknetics models because I think it will really sell itself once someone gets their hands on it and checks out the performance. To be sure, as the 6th model in the
line it will show they have a full range to cover every need without too many to have to pick from.
Monte
), but prefer the lighter weight of the Omega, and especially the Ground Balance adjustment options of the Omega and more valuable visual information.I then determined that, with all three coils for the Omega and when compared afield with the T2, for me and most of my daily hunting needs, the Omega provided me with better coin hunting TID on some of the mid-range to deeper coins than the T2. It has better deeper-coin lock-on, so to speak, and just works better for me for a lot of the quick work I do in an urban environment. Still, while the TID information locks on better than the T2, for me, they both produce very versatile VDI read-outs and that is what I rely on the most.
One problem I have is that while I often hunt alone I also spend time afield with some good friends or one of my sons and in tighter quarters, working closely, there can be some detector cross-talk. If my son, for example, is using Delta, I can offset the frequency a little with my Omega and we can hunt okay, but it would be nice to have a different frequency all together, as long as there's no cross interference. Yes, I could grab my T2, but I have a feeling the G-2 is going to become a main-use detector in my arsenal.
It will have the feel and balance I like about my Omega, share the same coils, provide all the adjustment I want and the VDI display, but also give me an 'edge' in some cases with the higher operating frequency. Naturally, it will be the unit I grab first when I go nugget hunting, but for all the other detecting I do the most I am sure it will cause a bit of "reshuffling" and might easily end up at the top on the list. I'd hate to bump the Omega to #2 so maybe I'll just work with both of them and decide which one I prefer with a certain coil and then leave them ready-to-go with the coil I want for certain sites?
I look forward to talking with dealers about the G-2 along with the other Teknetics models because I think it will really sell itself once someone gets their hands on it and checks out the performance. To be sure, as the 6th model in the
line it will show they have a full range to cover every need without too many to have to pick from.Monte
RICK IN KY
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Monte,
This is just my observation and what I have read about the G2 and why I think its going to make a great Relic Detector,First off the Frequency is going to be 19 KHZ very Sensitive to Low Conductive Targets like Brass ,Lead and Gold.2nd - its going to have the Fast Grab Ground Balance,don't know yet if we will be able to tweak that for hot ground or not.3rd -,Your going to be able to hunt in All Metal Mode with Target ID showing on the Screen,Now this will be mostly for clean ground I know,but is a good option to have and with more depth.4th- Its going to have one of the fastest recovery rates of any detector out there ,which will come in handy in the iron infested sites which you will encounter in civil war campsites.5th - Lightweight, you will be able to swing this detector all day,for you relic hunters that hunt from daylight to dark that means alot.6th -I like the 11 dd coil also.7th - Maybe the most important thing I heard about this detector is The Designer Dave Johnson said this could be his best,Once I get my hands on one and get out in the Relic Fields with it,I will be able to give a better opinion on how it works.We could probably talk about this detector all day long ,but ever thing on this detector looks good for the Relic Hunter.
This is just my observation and what I have read about the G2 and why I think its going to make a great Relic Detector,First off the Frequency is going to be 19 KHZ very Sensitive to Low Conductive Targets like Brass ,Lead and Gold.2nd - its going to have the Fast Grab Ground Balance,don't know yet if we will be able to tweak that for hot ground or not.3rd -,Your going to be able to hunt in All Metal Mode with Target ID showing on the Screen,Now this will be mostly for clean ground I know,but is a good option to have and with more depth.4th- Its going to have one of the fastest recovery rates of any detector out there ,which will come in handy in the iron infested sites which you will encounter in civil war campsites.5th - Lightweight, you will be able to swing this detector all day,for you relic hunters that hunt from daylight to dark that means alot.6th -I like the 11 dd coil also.7th - Maybe the most important thing I heard about this detector is The Designer Dave Johnson said this could be his best,Once I get my hands on one and get out in the Relic Fields with it,I will be able to give a better opinion on how it works.We could probably talk about this detector all day long ,but ever thing on this detector looks good for the Relic Hunter.
Rick, Everything you said is just what the Gold Bug SE Has already... Monte....
What settings did you use at your site? Disc at 30, gain at 100%
Did you hunt in both modes or mainly in the Discriminate mode?..Only in Disc Mode, the nails were thick......
How often did you refer to the VDI display and, when doing so, how helpful did you find it to be, especially when going after specific good finds such as the military buttons or bullets?
I looked at the VID all the time to learn where the items ID'ed on the meter, real helpful as I found that I would dig every signal that read 55 and up......
I just think that the G-2 is gonna be a good example of creative marketing until I get my hands on one to compare the two. After all, I could not really tell the difference between the F-75 & T-2 when I had them...........
What settings did you use at your site? Disc at 30, gain at 100%
Did you hunt in both modes or mainly in the Discriminate mode?..Only in Disc Mode, the nails were thick......
How often did you refer to the VDI display and, when doing so, how helpful did you find it to be, especially when going after specific good finds such as the military buttons or bullets?
I looked at the VID all the time to learn where the items ID'ed on the meter, real helpful as I found that I would dig every signal that read 55 and up......
I just think that the G-2 is gonna be a good example of creative marketing until I get my hands on one to compare the two. After all, I could not really tell the difference between the F-75 & T-2 when I had them...........
RICK IN KY said:
RICK IN KY
Active member
Right now it does look like the Electronics in the G2 is the same as the Fisher Goldbug SE,but I still believe there will be some difference in the two detectors,My guess its in the Disc Circuit,It won't be long now before we all will know for sure.There is alot of good reports in the field about the Fisher Goldbug SE so it all sounds good to me.
Everbody Good Luck in what ever your using.
Rick
Everbody Good Luck in what ever your using.
Rick
pull tab mel
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What price range will the G2 be in?
rush a new model onto the market only to be very busy with revision after revision and numerous changes in just the first few months to even a year+ out.
I think the new G-2 is going to provide a lot of us with a truly great detector for a variety of hunting applications.
Monte
I think the new G-2 is going to provide a lot of us with a truly great detector for a variety of hunting applications.
Monte
Using your GB SE I asked and you answered as follows:
What settings did you use at your site? Disc at 30, gain at 100%
I know I always try to run at the highest gain/Sensitivity setting I can, but i haven't used the GB SE much. Does it take a setting of '30' to knock out iron nails?
Did you hunt in both modes or mainly in the Discriminate mode? Only in Disc Mode, the nails were thick......
Expected when in trash. I do like the quick-response and fast-recovery of all the Teknetics models I use.
How often did you refer to the VDI display and, when doing so, how helpful did you find it to be, especially when going after specific good finds such as the military buttons or bullets? I looked at the VID all the time to learn where the items ID'ed on the meter, real helpful as I found that I would dig every signal that read 55 and up.
Thanks.
I just think that the G-2 is gonna be a good example of creative marketing until I get my hands on one to compare the two.
I think there are going to be those who prefer one package and design over the other, and I also believe there will be a subtle difference or two between them.
I hope your success continues.
Monte
What settings did you use at your site? Disc at 30, gain at 100%
I know I always try to run at the highest gain/Sensitivity setting I can, but i haven't used the GB SE much. Does it take a setting of '30' to knock out iron nails?
Did you hunt in both modes or mainly in the Discriminate mode? Only in Disc Mode, the nails were thick......
Expected when in trash. I do like the quick-response and fast-recovery of all the Teknetics models I use.
How often did you refer to the VDI display and, when doing so, how helpful did you find it to be, especially when going after specific good finds such as the military buttons or bullets? I looked at the VID all the time to learn where the items ID'ed on the meter, real helpful as I found that I would dig every signal that read 55 and up.
Thanks.
I just think that the G-2 is gonna be a good example of creative marketing until I get my hands on one to compare the two.
I think there are going to be those who prefer one package and design over the other, and I also believe there will be a subtle difference or two between them.
I hope your success continues.
Monte