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An update on a Murder case....Toltec II helped

CQuarles

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Last year I posted about a .25 caliber bullet I found with my Toltec II. The bullet was fired from a gun in 1987, and it landed in the front yard. The shooter in 1987 died the same day from a heart attack. The gun belonged to his daughter who was recently divorced, and had moved back into his home temporarily. The police took custody of the gun pending the outcome of their investigation. Since no one was harmed during this shooting, the handgun was returned to the original owner, who was the ex-husband of the woman whose father had used it in anger. Remember, this was in 1987.

In 2008, the original owner of the gun was murdered in his own home. He was shot at close range in the head with a .25 caliber handgun. Although a handgun of the same caliber was found during a search of the crime scene, ballistics proved it was not the murder weapon. During the investigation, the detective learned of the story about the shooting back in '87 from one of the victim's children. He learned from the police that the gun had been returned to the murder victim after the case in '87 was closed. That weapon was never found at any time during the investigation of his murder.

The detective was sharp enough to realize that the missing .25 caliber pistol may be the murder weapon, and he needed to find the bullet in the yard to have it compared with the bullet taken from the victim's brain. If the bullets matched, then the gun would be circumstantially tied to the murder, and only one person would have had access to it.....his wife.

I found the bullet after about a 4.5 hour search with the Toltec II and a 4" sniper coil. It was about 1" down. There was some damage to the bullet since it had lain in the elements for 20 years, but there were enough identifying characteristics for the analyst to say he was more than 90% sure it was from the same gun. Interestingly enough, the bullet was never used at trial. There was so much other evidence that the prosecutors didn't want to confuse the jury with the story of how these circumstances came about. They looked at the bullet as insurance...just in case they came up short in other areas of the case.

His wife was convicted last month, and will spend the rest of her life in prison without parole. I am confident that metal detecting is as good a tool in a forensic setting as in a hobby. This is the second time I have found a bullet in a homicide case, and the other case resulted in a conviction with the same sentence for the killer.

If you ever get an opportunity to either volunteer, or train law enforcement in the use of a detector at a crime scene, don't pass it up.
It's just as rewarding as finding treasure.....
 
WTG! Public service is always a good idea. Any good press on our hobby is an excellent way to let people know we are not just digging holes in the ground. As a plus, it may open some opportunities to detect in places that would otherwise not be available. HH.

Ed
 
Facinating story.
 
Hi CQ

Good to see you're back with an update on the the murder case............Good Job!!!

I guess you and I are just about the only ones on this forum that still run the Ol Toltec ll, I still have mine after all these years (1994) just got it back from the good folks at Tesoro for a meter callibration and they did a fine job of it. I also picked up the older brother, the Toltec 100 earlier in the year. It's a neat old detectector! Lots of knobs and switches, I love it. Later

Randy
 
There are some places where this old Toltec is the only machine I'll use. I like sniping with that 4" coil. I also have the Lobo ST, and really enjoy hunting with these machines. I'm a visual learner, though, and so the metered machines are my favorites. I've never seen a Toltec 100.
 
Hi CQ


I use the stock 8 inch coil on my Toltec ll as it seperates the targets in trashy ground very well by lifting the coil slightly while swinging it real slow, and by all means the 4 inch coil is a good coil for sniping in the really tight and trashy sections of ground and the depth is astounding for such a small coil.

The Toltec 100 is Tesoro's first metered detector circa 1987 or so. It has an aluminum box instead of plastic to house the electronics in, with a smallish target meter in front of the box with a retune button and an allmetal switch. And on top of the box is six glorious knobs and a autotune/ normal allmetal switch. I just love to play with the Toltec 100, an analog machine at it's finest.

Last year we PM'd each other after your post about finding the 25. cal pistol bullet. and talked about the Toltec ll and ground balancing them. I hope that you are well and getting out there hunting with your Toltec ll. I do not believe there is a better detector out there for finding the older coins and relics in the rusty nail strewn grounds that I hunt at. Have a great year!

Randy
 
I used a White's 6000DI to help search body dump sites for the Green River Killer case. At one site I found a set of keys under a bush and the keys matched the manufacturer of a person of interest's vehicle. Later learned that they were 'tested' on the PIs car and were not the correct keys.
When I found something, I just stuck my digging tool in the ground next to the item and hollered for one of the detectives. They'd come over and photograph and then used a transit tool to accurately record the location of the find. They'd bag it for evidence and I would continue searching.
One thing I didn't think of that time is I had the unit set to discriminate some metal like I was hunting for coins and jewelry. Dumb! While searching for evidence use no discrimination because not even the detectives know for sure what might be found that could be useful.
The detectives had a Garrett that they carried in their evidence van and I watched the detective try to use it. It was a joke, as you can imagine. Help the police with your skills and you can make a difference. Jim
 
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