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after air testing the Kellyco Vulcan 360 pinpointer

yowow#1

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Air testing I compared it to my garrett propointer. On sensitivity 3 it was probably just a little deeper than the propointer. On sensitivity setting 5 it was twice as deep. The propointer was louder and i prefer the deeper tone of the propointer. The build quality was prettty good i thought, and if you are easy on your stuff it should give you no problems. I couldn't find the country of origin, two year warranty, but $20.00 shipping after ninety days, dont like that. If it doesn't false like my propointer i'll be okay with it. Would not give $179.00 original posting price. just my 2 cents worth. can't wait to actually use it.
 
Twice as deep as the Propointer! Amazing!

But like you said, the real test is the falsing issue out in the field. It might be worse than the Propointer with all that extra sensitivity.
 
You can get them now for $120.00 on there site.If they work as well as the pro I may get one.
 
country of origin = China

Clad dime air test = 2"

Clad dime air test (propointer) = 1 1/4"

Doesn't like my wifi router on sensitivity setting 5
 
Is that twice the distance while using the nickel trick or without?
If the propointer is farther with the nickel trick , it wins.
 
sprchng said:
Is that twice the distance while using the nickel trick or without?
If the propointer is farther with the nickel trick , it wins.

I don't do the nickel trick as i don't do that when i'm hunting so i don't see a reason for it.:shrug:
 
I use a somewhat flattened copper ferrel from a 1/4" compression fitting and a section of a cable tie for it to slide on to give the propointer the same variable sensitivity the Vulcan has. I find it helps to locate many shallow coins for making very minute plugs. I imagine the sensitivity setting on the Vulcan , and Minelab for that matter , work on the same basis so knowing which has the most potential range helps to decide whether the Vulcan is worth the extra 50 bucks retail.
 
sprchng said:
I use a somewhat flattened copper ferrel from a 1/4" compression fitting and a section of a cable tie for it to slide on to give the propointer the same variable sensitivity the Vulcan has. I find it helps to locate many shallow coins for making very minute plugs. I imagine the sensitivity setting on the Vulcan , and Minelab for that matter , work on the same basis so knowing which has the most potential range helps to decide whether the Vulcan is worth the extra 50 bucks retail.

In my above post i said i wouldn't pay the initial ad price of $179.99 based on my just playing around with it today. But it is on sale at $119.99 as of right now, which i think is a fair price based on my playing around with it, Just my opinion. I'm just offering some information for anyone who might be interested, this post wasn't meant to be a competition post between the two... The only reason i used the pro-pointer for comparison was because so many people are familiar with the propointer.
 
I personally think this is a great pinpointer. I love it so far. Now the real test is how will it act in a couple of months...
 
yowow, if the Vulcan can do it with stability, that ability to get extra depth is a good thing. There are times when the Pro Pointer won't pick up the item in my plug but my Pistol Probe (crappy Chinese build quality, but 2-3 times the depth of the Pro Pointer) will.

The penny trick, Ism's sidekick, etc. increase Pro Pointer depth but have major drawbacks, primarily that the Pro Pointer tends to get unstable when you use metal to supertune it.
 
when you are close to the object, it's it's going to beep when you're several inches away, then what's the point of having one, just use your detector?
 
John(Tx) said:
when you are close to the object, it's it's going to beep when you're several inches away, then what's the point of having one, just use your detector?

I absolutely agree with you John(TX), i'm not a pinpointer depth person as i think a lot of depth defeats the purpose of the pinpointer, i thought i was in the minority concerning pinpointer depth. I only posted about the depth because it seems a lot of people are concerned about a lot of depth in a pinpointer... My biggest concern in a pinpointer is it stability (no false chirping).
 
marcomo said:
yowow, if the Vulcan can do it with stability, that ability to get extra depth is a good thing. There are times when the Pro Pointer won't pick up the item in my plug but my Pistol Probe (crappy Chinese build quality, but 2-3 times the depth of the Pro Pointer) will.

The penny trick, Ism's sidekick, etc. increase Pro Pointer depth but have major drawbacks, primarily that the Pro Pointer tends to get unstable when you use metal to supertune it.



The build quality in the vulcan doesn't seem bad at all even though china made, I'm sure i'll use the vulcan in sensitivity setting 3 or maybe 4. The only time i would probably use max sensitivity is to see if it's close to the surface

The penny trick in my personal opinion is not necessary cause i really don't want a bunch of depth in a pinpointer
 
After using the Vulcan pinpointer for about a month now I have had no erratic issues period. It is very accurate. If there is a big piece of metal you will know. That goes without saying. If it is a small target then you will almost be touching it. When you are touching it is a steady sound. If you are off to the side then not a steady sound. Personally I love this thing. Would I pay the suggested retail. No, but I am cheap, lol!
Anyway so far so good
 
Wasn't going to post any thoughts about the vulcan 360 until i used it for a few weeks anyway, cause i thought that would be fair. But It was 65 degrees in my area today, and i got out.:crazy: All i can say about the vulcan pinpointer is that if it doesn't start falsing, then it is incredible...Sensitivity settings 3 & 4 today, I'm impressed...I'll evaluate it as i use as i go. and give any info for anyone interested.
 
For that kind of money I'd by the new Whites pin pointer. Equal or better on the depth and that is adjustable.
 
I don't think Kellyco brought the 360 to market expecting to sway Garrett and now TRX customers to spend 150 bucks on their product. I believe is a vast improvement over the Automax and with that said, the Vulcan will be a free accessory throw in for the medium to high priced detectors. I was never happy with an Automax, but I think a free Vulcan will help sell more detectors.
 
I think if Kellyco will leave the vulcan in the $120.00 range and let a few get to market than they might just have a winner (providing it shows durability), having owned 2 propointers,, if someone said to me i'm going to give you a free propointer or a free vulcan, i'll take the vulcan, at this time... just my opinion.
 
yowow, I'll add my two cents to yours down the road. I had a chance to get one new for $95 from a forum member who apparently got it in a Kellyco package deal so I figured what the heck.

I know a lot of my fellow dirt fishers say it's a pinpointer not a detector so more depth is not needed or desirable.

That's not the way I feel. Assuming you can get depth with stability (stability is supremely important in a pinpointer), extra depth is a big plus.

If your pp is in the hole and you can't find a signal, you gotta dig more dirt out. It's easier for me not to have to do that. Especially when I'm chasing a deep iffy, very small or ghost signal.

Also shallow targets are made easier with a pinpointer, but with the Propointer on coin size targets that's limited to an inch and a fraction.

When you're talking about additional depth (again, assuming stability) that's a big plus in my book.
 
marcomo said:
yowow, I'll add my two cents to yours down the road. I had a chance to get one new for $95 from a forum member who apparently got it in a Kellyco package deal so I figured what the heck.

I know a lot of my fellow dirt fishers say it's a pinpointer not a detector so more depth is not needed or desirable.

That's not the way I feel. Assuming you can get depth with stability (stability is supremely important in a pinpointer), extra depth is a big plus.

If your pp is in the hole and you can't find a signal, you gotta dig more dirt out. It's easier for me not to have to do that. Especially when I'm chasing a deep iffy, very small or ghost signal.

Also shallow targets are made easier with a pinpointer, but with the Propointer on coin size targets that's limited to an inch and a fraction.

When you're talking about additional depth (again, assuming stability) that's a big plus in my book.


I don't mind digging more dirt. That is okay with me, i enjoy the search part, it ain"t "work" for me. But what i do hate is putting the target on my towel and i still can't find it cause my pin-pointer keeps seeing it 3 inches away:) Good Luck, Hope you find a ton of good stuff.:):)
 
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