Advantage 600 or 800

[CCadrin]

I thought I read that the 600 does not have a gold mode hence there is no 40kHz and no 20 kHz

 

[sgoss66]

CCadrin --

That is correct -- no 20 kHz and 40 kHz selectable as SINGLE frequencies on the 600...but whatever frequencies are used in the Multi-IQ mode will be the same in both units...

Steve

 

[ohiochris]

Chris --

Generally handle better ground better, yes -- but I don't think many feel a multi-freq is in general a better unmasker...

BUT, yes, the multi-freqs are generally more accurate with ID at depth.

With that said, Minelab has stated that the 800 and 600 both use the same frequencies in multi-freq mode. It's just that you can't INDIVIDUALLY SELECT the 20 and 40 kHz single freq options on the 600...but the multi-freq modes are the same in both machines.

Steve

This may be true , I hope it is. Unless I just missed it though , I havent seen this on the published specs anywhere. Where it lists the frequencies each uses the 600 is missing the gold frequencies altogether , with no stipulation that they are there in multi mode just not available for single freq. use. If true though , I could save some money and get the 600 instead of the 800. ( whenever I can finally afford a new detector that is )

But on my previous topic , its been said that multi freq handles tough ground and salt better because the extra freq's in a way help to cancel out the interference , and atleast in theory the same properties .....depending on the settings used of course..... can help isolate a non ferrous target in close proximity to iron. One of the reasons why the XP Deus is said to be great in iron. Not a complete elimination of masking but a clearer picture of what is going on beneath the soil. Multi frequency is new to me so I could be wrong but Ive noticed others on various forums saying the same thing. I may have my hopes up too high but I have a couple sites that are pretty much undetectable because of an almost literal iron curtain between the surface and the layer containing the sites history ,.....one of them a fairground that was later a brick yard and then a huge tire dump that caught fire and burned to the ground leaving a mesh of steel wires to decompose over decades. After trying that site many times I dont believe any single frequency detector stands a chance with that environment. It may be expecting too much but any advantage a multi freq detector can offer , even if small , might possibly make the site worth the frustration of trying it again.

 

[sgoss66]

This may be true , I hope it is. Unless I just missed it though , I havent seen this on the published specs anywhere. Where it lists the frequencies each uses the 600 is missing the gold frequencies altogether , with no stipulation that they are there in multi mode just not available for single freq. use. If true though , I could save some money and get the 600 instead of the 800. ( whenever I can finally afford a new detector that is )

Chris --

Read this...

https://www.minelab.com/usa/go-minelabbing/treasure-talk/equinox-technologies-part-2

About halfway down, you will see this picture...

[attachment 352586 Simplified-Curves-EN-1200px.jpg]

Right under that picture, are these words, referring to that picture (in light print):

* 20 kHz and 40 kHz are not available as single operating frequencies in EQUINOX 600. The Multi-IQ frequency range shown applies to both EQUINOX 600 and 800. This diagram is representative only. Actual sensitivity levels will depend upon target types and sizes, ground conditions and detector settings.

But on my previous topic , its been said that multi freq handles tough ground and salt better because the extra freq's in a way help to cancel out the interference , and atleast in theory the same properties .....depending on the settings used of course..... can help isolate a non ferrous target in close proximity to iron. One of the reasons why the XP Deus is said to be great in iron. Not a complete elimination of masking but a clearer picture of what is going on beneath the soil. Multi frequency is new to me so I could be wrong but Ive noticed others on various forums saying the same thing. I may have my hopes up too high but I have a couple sites that are pretty much undetectable because of an almost literal iron curtain between the surface and the layer containing the sites history ,.....one of them a fairground that was later a brick yard and then a huge tire dump that caught fire and burned to the ground leaving a mesh of steel wires to decompose over decades. After trying that site many times I dont believe any single frequency detector stands a chance with that environment. It may be expecting too much but any advantage a multi freq detector can offer , even if small , might possibly make the site worth the frustration of trying it again.

If that old fairground is what you say it is -- with all that steel wire mesh as thick as you claim it to be, you are out of luck with ANY detector.

Steve

 

[ohiochris]

This may be true , I hope it is. Unless I just missed it though , I havent seen this on the published specs anywhere. Where it lists the frequencies each uses the 600 is missing the gold frequencies altogether , with no stipulation that they are there in multi mode just not available for single freq. use. If true though , I could save some money and get the 600 instead of the 800. ( whenever I can finally afford a new detector that is )

Chris --

Read this...

https://www.minelab.com/usa/go-minelabbing/treasure-talk/equinox-technologies-part-2

About halfway down, you will see this picture...

[attachment 352586 Simplified-Curves-EN-1200px.jpg]

Right under that picture, are these words, referring to that picture (in light print):

* 20 kHz and 40 kHz are not available as single operating frequencies in EQUINOX 600. The Multi-IQ frequency range shown applies to both EQUINOX 600 and 800. This diagram is representative only. Actual sensitivity levels will depend upon target types and sizes, ground conditions and detector settings.

But on my previous topic , its been said that multi freq handles tough ground and salt better because the extra freq's in a way help to cancel out the interference , and atleast in theory the same properties .....depending on the settings used of course..... can help isolate a non ferrous target in close proximity to iron. One of the reasons why the XP Deus is said to be great in iron. Not a complete elimination of masking but a clearer picture of what is going on beneath the soil. Multi frequency is new to me so I could be wrong but Ive noticed others on various forums saying the same thing. I may have my hopes up too high but I have a couple sites that are pretty much undetectable because of an almost literal iron curtain between the surface and the layer containing the sites history ,.....one of them a fairground that was later a brick yard and then a huge tire dump that caught fire and burned to the ground leaving a mesh of steel wires to decompose over decades. After trying that site many times I dont believe any single frequency detector stands a chance with that environment. It may be expecting too much but any advantage a multi freq detector can offer , even if small , might possibly make the site worth the frustration of trying it again.

If that old fairground is what you say it is -- with all that steel wire mesh as thick as you claim it to be, you are out of luck with ANY detector.

Steve

Yeah , I know , and I'm not looking for miracles.......but if there is a spot or two with a little window through the iron curtain and trash , the better the detector you use the better the chances of being able to exploit them.....or so I am hoping

 

[ohiochris]

Although , the videos available have shown its ability to hit well on coins very close to LARGE iron , in situations most other detectors.....even the best ones.....usually cant , or atleast struggle to. And a recovery speed that blows everything else away. Its a fairly large area and though a lot of it will defeat even the equinox , there may be some windows in the iron that the EQ is suited for

 

[sgoss66]

Absolutely, Chris. I am sure there are "windows" that you may be able to see through. And absolutely, with the "best machine for the job," you increase your chances of course. I expect the Equinox to be very good in iron; in your situation, I'd think the 6" coil would also be of benefit, so you are not taking in as much "volume" of dirt (with all that decomposing iron therein) at one time...

Steve

 

[hairymonsterman]

What vid was this Chris?

Although , the videos available have shown its ability to hit well on coins very close to LARGE iron , in situations most other detectors.....even the best ones.....usually cant , or atleast struggle to. And a recovery speed that blows everything else away. Its a fairly large area and though a lot of it will defeat even the equinox , there may be some windows in the iron that the EQ is suited for

 

[ohiochris]

What vid was this Chris?

Although , the videos available have shown its ability to hit well on coins very close to LARGE iron , in situations most other detectors.....even the best ones.....usually cant , or atleast struggle to. And a recovery speed that blows everything else away. Its a fairly large area and though a lot of it will defeat even the equinox , there may be some windows in the iron that the EQ is suited for

Here is the most notable one I seen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yKHpUiHQZc

 

[Bourneredi]

When the Minelab site finally came back up, references to the EQ600 have been removed.

 

[Nuke em]

I wonder if the 600 has issues ?

 

[amberjack]

they both have issues or you would be holding one.

AJ

 

[Nuke em]

An announcement in the next week . Thats all i can say as that i heard somewhere else from a mate.

 

[GKMan]

The advantage at this point is that the 800 still exists on the Minelab site after it's mysterious outage

 

[Nuke em]

I just posted asking where the 600 has gone on that site . Wonder where its gone ? Maybe its coming later and the 800 is being pushed for release quicker ? I reckon thats likely , mostly because so many want that over the 600.

 

[amberjack]

I have to have a giggle at the fun being had trying to read minds on here or see in to the future if I could do both or even one I wouldn't need a metal detector...

so if my comments seem blasé its for that reason as I have nothing constructive to add and pretending I do is not helpful so a few shots over minelabs bow are all that one can offer and yep I am worse face to face I am nice on here

if I chose to test this metal detector if and when its released then I might add something of substance, but until then its all a bit of fun and well good to see all the personalities that waiting has provided more a study of human nature than anything to do with metal detecting.

AJ

 

[Nuke em]

I have to have a giggle at the fun being had trying to read minds on here or see in to the future if I could do both or even one I wouldn't need a metal detector...

so if my comments seem blasé its for that reason as I have nothing constructive to add and pretending I do is not helpful so a few shots over minelabs bow are all that one can offer and yep I am worse face to face I am nice on here

if I chose to test this metal detector if and when its released then I might add something of substance, but until then its all a bit of fun and well good to see all the personalities that waiting has provided more a study of human nature than anything to do with metal detecting.

AJ

Its the machines , the're taking control of us

 

[amberjack]

electronic gadgets hey should visit some mobile Ph. forums before release its total insanity, I like gadgets as much as the next bloke but some people (younger ones) are way over the top..

anyways all a bit of fun and one day no one will careless about this detector it will just be another metal detector..

AJ

 

[Nuke em]

It will be the next then the next then......
Lucky Trump and Un aren't here arguing over the Equinox or we might not reach it !

 

[amberjack]

politics, oh dear... I think he is itching for a fight doesn't want to feel left out

AJ