6x10 Eclipse or SEF 6x8 coil for tot lots?

[Southwind]

Now that people have had some time to put these coils through the grind what is your opinion of the two now? I do mostly tot lot hunting with my V3i and maybe the stock coil is as good as any, but I'm wondering about the Eclipse 6x10, because I've run it on my DFX for years, compared to the SEF 6x8. Which is the better tot lot coil?

Thanks

 

[Blind Squirrel]

Southwind, hunting the tot lots, I usually use the 4X6. Depth is not a concern as most of the targets are 2" or less. The 4X6 lets me get closer to the monkey bars without overload. The 6X10 has worked fine; just cant get as close to large metal. Best of luck and ...

Happy Hunting!
Blind Squirrel

 

[Rob (IL)]

I don't hunt the lots much. Between the 6x8 and 6x10 I know Larry prefered the 6x8. In a lot there wouldn't be much difference. Now out of the lot the 6x8 does better handling bad ground.

 

[Larry (IL)]

For tot lot hunting there is not much difference between the two, the 6X10 will, of course, cover a little more ground. In open field hunting, I think the 6X8 is a little deeper and a little bit quieter. IMHO the ultimate coil for tot lots is the Bigfoot and even though quite expensive, I think it would quickly pay for itself. You can sweep an entire tot lot in short order when covering 15 inches per swing. Back when Nancy and I clad hunted, $50 days became pretty common with the Bigfoot coils.


Tip, you will want to use the Bigfoot in single frequency 7.5 when on the V series.

 

[wasp]

Since the 6x8 isn't nulled for all three frequencies would it be as sensitive as the 6x10 to small gold, which might be found on tot lots?

The 6x10 actually is only about 5 1/2" wide and the 6x8 is actually almost 6 5/8" wide. All other factors being equal, would this size difference account for experiencing more depth on the 6x8 or does it just handle the ground better than the 6x10?

 

[Southwind]

Thanks!

I just didn't know if the 6x8 SEF had a big advantage in a tot lot. I know depth is important because I have some tot lots with 12" of wood chips to get through. Pulled a very nice, and big, gold necklace below the chips in the mud below. It had worrked its way to the bottom and it took the AT Pro to hit it after many detector had passed it by.

 

[Rob (IL)]

Since the 6x8 isn't nulled for all three frequencies would it be as sensitive as the 6x10 to small gold, which might be found on tot lots? The null limits how high the the RX can be run. A test for a good Whites coil would be RX15 in the air with no boost. In tot lot hunting max gain would not be a problem. Few people would be running high RX. Disc sensitivity is what would determine how sensitive the detector is to small gold.

The 6x10 actually is only about 5 1/2" wide and the 6x8 is actually almost 6 5/8" wide. All other factors being equal, would this size difference account for experiencing more depth on the 6x8 or does it just handle the ground better than the 6x10? I don't think it is the size,seems to handle BAD ground better.How bad are wood chips?

 

[Larry (IL)]

If your tot lots are 12" deep, a small coil might not be your best choice.......

 

[wasp]

Thanks Rob. That makes sense.

 

[5900_XL-1]

My vote would go to the 8x6 for a happy medium if you have found lots with 12" wood chips. The SEF will "out-depth" the 6x10. Mine SEF has since getting the 8x6. In all honesty though, I personally don't go into tot lots thinking about much of anything near as deep as 12". I love my 8x6! You can't beat the 4x6 though for getting up close to the equipment and I find treasure with that small coil down to depth of 7+ inches sometimes when running it hot. The SEF is nice in how it will still seperate and get depth too when de-tuned. The 6x10 just never impressed me all that much.

Everyone has an opinion though. martin

 

[daddyflea]

I have the SEF 6X8 and it is great compared to my stock coil. Much deeper and better separation. The problem you will have in the lots is that the SEF 6X8 is not going to let you get within a foot of any metal with the Sensativity turned up. I traded off my Stock Coil for a 4X6 Eclipse. SEF 6X8 will pin point like a dream too. Have not even tried the 4X6 yet but hunting lots in close proximity to metal, I am not sure the SEF is going to do all that great.

Found a 1926 D Wheat today and a 1956 D Wheat.

 

[Rob (IL)]

Daddy,
I saw your trade. You also traded depth capability for better separation. It all depends were you hunt.

 

[daddyflea]

Daddy,
I saw your trade. You also traded depth capability for better separation. It all depends were you hunt.

Yep you are right Rob. It is not uncommon for me to have a problem using my Garrett Pro Pointer finding the target my Detector saw. My areas are so trashy that I often hunt a place once using one coil then after recovering all my targets I will then switch to an even smaller coil. It may just be me but the SEF 6X8 seems deeper than the stock coil. That may be because of the smaller footprint in the ground. One thing I really do not like about the stock coil is that it is so bulky and slows my swing. I am hunting another old house and as soon as I get it hunted I am going to switch to the 4X6 Eclipse and hunt it again. I easily get 6 to 8 inches depth and here the ground is way too hard to dig deeper anyway.

 

[Rob (IL)]

This is probably your case Daddy.

Coil Size Myth [size=small](paraphrased from Dankowski article)[/size]

 

[5900_XL-1]

Thanks for that write up on coils Rob. It really is full of insight. It settled some of my grey area questions I've had over time with it's plain talk. It's worth studying again from time to time. martin

 

[texjim]

Thanks Rob you really broke things down to make a lot of sense.

 

[johnedoe]

This is probably your case Daddy.

Coil Size Myth [size=small](paraphrased from Dankowski article)[/size]

 

[ArizFlash]

Better lower signal and noise values than my D2, 950 and 6X10 Eclipse, It has equivalent noise and signal levels as my 5.3 and 4X6 Eclipse.

It is also about 1" deeper in my ground and is lighter and better balanced than the 6X10 Eclipse.

Alan in SF East Bay

 

[Rob (IL)]

Good report Alan. The 6x8 is smaller then the D2,950 and 6x10. So the volume of soil under the 6x8 should give lower numbers. In my area the 6x10 was never a depth demon.