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2016 will be a big year for Tesoro......

I just made a post on the DT asking if they can build an expanded disc just for us N. Americans.
 
Sven said:
I just made a post on the DT asking if they can build an expanded disc just for us N. Americans.

sounds good Sven see the other place has expanded out the disc range on the racer 2 to met US style needs, hope they can follow suit :bouncy:

thanks!

AJ
 
I would be happy if Tesoro came out with a Vaquero type machine adding a low tone for iron and high tone for nonferrous.

They could add $50 to their currant Vaquero price and I would buy one.

At least they would know they have one sold!

Good Hunting,

Denny
 
Denny, I believe that your suggestion about the tones added to the Vaquero might be something the factory is capable of implementing. I would love to see the Vaquero with the Golden tones. I would buy one in a heartbeat if the detector had a ground balance on it. If the Turkish guys can update a Racer within a year and a half of inception, surely Tesoro could do this.
 
RLOH said:
Denny, I believe that your suggestion about the tones added to the Vaquero might be something the factory is capable of implementing. I would love to see the Vaquero with the Golden tones. I would buy one in a heartbeat if the detector had a ground balance on it. If the Turkish guys can update a Racer within a year and a half of inception, surely Tesoro could do this.
They couldn't even fix the Golden's tone issue.
 
slingshot said:
RLOH said:
Denny, I believe that your suggestion about the tones added to the Vaquero might be something the factory is capable of implementing. I would love to see the Vaquero with the Golden tones. I would buy one in a heartbeat if the detector had a ground balance on it. If the Turkish guys can update a Racer within a year and a half of inception, surely Tesoro could do this.
They couldn't even fix the Golden's tone issue.

:lmfao: yep bit of a one trick pony Tesoro but the trick is pretty good.

AJ
 
I would love a two tone vaquero like machine...I'm Holden strong that tesoro has the goods coming soon !
 
thumperjones said:
I'm happy with what they make now. If they start making the same stuff everybody else makes, then who would care? They have loyal fans because they make something different that flat out works. My humble little Bandido II still blows most any modern machine out of the water on the nail board test. If people really wanted a Tesoro digital ID machine, then why aren't the DeLeon and Cortes flying off the shelves?

Only thing is if you don't come up with something new,what are you going to sell?
Most detectors are bought by seasoned detectorist, not newbies. It's like guns,a gun nut like me doesn't need 50 rifles,shotguns and pistols but we
want variety. We're not going to keep buying the same .270 win model 70 year after year.
I already have a tejon,I don't want another one or something that's different accept its the same detector with new decal and nobs repositioned.
But if a person must have a beep and dig unit just run with a single tone and tape over the screen.
 
Going to grab that new double D for my Tejon. The T was probably already better than my capabilities, so the new coil should be icing on the cake for me. I admit to barely touching it though, in the last two years since getting an AT Pro.
 
I kind of hate to say it but I think they are done.
I don't think they can price anything they make to go against the Chinese wonder machines and they can't fight the big guns of whites and minelab garrett fisher.
The only thing they can do is make a dual freq SURF machine and sell it for under 1K to save their butts. Something that resembles the MX sport but can be used in salt.
 
Tesoro is far from done! But.. Here is what I would like to see; Keep the micromax form, offer the tones we want for the machines we like (loved the outlaw, hated the tone), weather or water proof them and put the battery compartment seperate from the main housing. Heck a waterproof micromax model with ground balance, threshold, sensitivity and disc would sell like hotcakes. I don't need 100 feet give me ten with lightweight ergonomics and tesoro performance. Oh and offer tone choices!
Really I hope they are watching this forum and noting what people who use their machines are looking for. It's not enough if they release 5 new models tomorrow if the don't take into account what consumers are asking for. Iron audio, more tones or in my case a nice modulated high tone like I have in my ss micromax and bandito micromax. The only current model I want to try is a vaquero hightone.
And I really like the tesoros I do have, even more then machines that have all the bells and whistles.
 
iqwozpoom said:
Tesoro is far from done! But.. Here is what I would like to see; Keep the micromax form, offer the tones we want for the machines we like (loved the outlaw, hated the tone), weather or water proof them and put the battery compartment seperate from the main housing. Heck a waterproof micromax model with ground balance, threshold, sensitivity and disc would sell like hotcakes. I don't need 100 feet give me ten with lightweight ergonomics and tesoro performance. Oh and offer tone choices!
Really I hope they are watching this forum and noting what people who use their machines are looking for. It's not enough if they release 5 new models tomorrow if the don't take into account what consumers are asking for. Iron audio, more tones or in my case a nice modulated high tone like I have in my ss micromax and bandito micromax. The only current model I want to try is a vaquero hightone.
And I really like the tesoros I do have, even more then machines that have all the bells and whistles.

I agree! Take the Outlaw and change the red button to a trigger toggle like on the Tejon. If you can put an Iron tone on it great, but I would love to see an adjustable tone break feature like on the Pantera! Let there be a three mode switch... Auto tune all metal, tone break disc, and single tone disc. When in single tone disc, the tone break adjust nob could become a tone adjust not so guys can hunt in single tone and adjust the pitch to their liking.

That's what I want to see, my two cents.
 
big Tesoro fan here, but my gosh, look at their facebook page, their non involvement in forums, and their faillure to come out with something innovative or improved for years now.

Seems that it would be in their own interest to look at brands like Nokta / Makro, where there are a whole lot of smart marketing / business decisions happening right now.

Listen to your customers, interact with them, implement improvements plus customer requests in their new models, hand out test detectors here and there, and don't raise expectations that do not hold up, like Tesoro did with their illusive 'Cazador' model.

A new color scheme on a 10 year old detector design is not going to make it the latest and greatest.. (even though it's a good detector to begin with)
 
kirk01 said:
I would be happy if Tesoro came out with a Vaquero type machine adding a low tone for iron and high tone for nonferrous.
Danny, years ago, when the smarter Gifford detector designer was running the show, they tried that with the very proven circuitry range of 10 kHz to 12 kHz models. They called it the Euro Sabre and it was supposed to be targeted at the European market as it had both a Threshold-based All Metal mode with manual GB, and a motion mode with their ED-180 [size=small](all metal accept low-end)[/size] Discrimination circuitry. It wasn't offered to US Dealers until they were stuck with a bunch of them just didn't go over very well in Europe, so they replaced the 8X9 Concentra coil with the 10X12 coil and promoted them here, targeting them for Relic Hunters.


It did have the toggle option to produce an Iron Audio, but it was very 'iffy' on targets close to the ferrous/non-ferrous conductivity break point, and it didn't work that well beyond a small detection depth. I love a model with a good working 2-Tone audio to separate ferrous and non-ferrous targets, and I concentrate a lot of Relic Hunting efforts in iron littered sites. I was a Tesoro Dealer and was excited to see it offered, but those I ordered in left me un-excited. I found two for sale from different parties in late 2014 and bought them both, hoping one might work well, but was once again let down.


One of the problems is the Tesoro line is mainly analog circuitry, and models that are more sophisticated with digitally designed circuitry do much better with the ferrous/non-ferrous 2-Tone audio performance. All of my Makro and Nokta models feature a 2-Tone audio to classify ferrous and non-ferrous, and they do an excellent job of it. I wouldn't hold my breath of Tesoro producing anything that could come close to competing.

Monte
 
Personally with Tesoros I like the disc more than the idea of iron audio. A Pantera tone break for accepted targets? Bring that back!
 
if I have learnt one thing on here trying to get people with detectors to agree on much is like herding cats...

and like I tell my mate see a guy with a detector run they are all strange and yep I know I am strange, the problem is most others don't :poke:

so Tesoro could make the biggest brake through in detecting in the last 20 years and I bet London to a brick that someone wont like it :clapping:

anyway Tesoro is Tesoro right is there really that much more to add ?? I know it keeps us occupied while we are bored, but they are not going too change in my life time of the one after that think we have worked that out already :wiggle:

so I guess its like what they have to offer or move along which most of us are doing, but will still keep my Tesoro's they are fun and they work great for shallowish coins and jewellery , so "swing away" as Mel Gibson said in that alien movie he was in years back. worth a look if you haven't seen it.

AJ
 
The Sign, was the name of the movie...

Agree with you AJ, on the points you make.

What Tesoro does and how they do it is not our business, it's theirs, in more ways than one.

Like you, I enjoy using my Tesoro machines, and am happy as a pig in mud with the results I usually get with them.

If I worried about the manufacturer of everything I own or buy, I would be even more insane than I am.

There are plenty of other detector manufacturers out there, and plenty of options for machines to buy.

My hobby is detecting, not spending my time bitching about what manufacturers are doing or not doing in respect of new machines. If a new machine comes out from one of the manufacturers, well and good. If not, life goes on.
HH
 
yep well said FT :bouncy:

good movie I remember that line "swing away" it was funny !!

I had more fun taking this pic today watching the baby kookaburra have a feed :biggrin: just wish he would take on the possum that must be sick of tomatoes by now , well I hope so think he has had his fair share :punch:

hope you been finding some goodies !!

AJ

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Wow over 3000 views and lots of good comments and sugestions! But the key point here, is Tesoro's non involvement in Forums/ potential future customers. These guys are really choglodites.........they must be off the grid??? LOL LOL
 
I've been a tesoro owner for the last 26 years. I've pretty much had just about all or have tried every unit of tesoros and honestly . I'd love to see a dull frequency water proof unit. Something that would blow the fisher cz unit away .
 
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