Youtube Videos

[midlifecrisis]

Is anyone besides me a little leery of some of the Youtube videos out there? Some folks post some excellent videos with setting descriptions, tips, live digs, success that seems realistic and I really appreciate those. Then there are the ones that go like this: "got a merc, got a silver Rosie, another merc, oh it's a Barber, another silver Rosie" and so on. I will be the first to admit that I am not the most proficient with the Etrac nor the most patient hunter but come on. I have never had a hunt even close to some of these with any machine in many years of detecting. I can't figure out why these people even bother detecting when they could be playing the lottery. We've all known a few folks that tell some tall tales on one subject or another. I just have to wonder if Youtube isn't a dream come true for those personality types and if a few of them don't happen to own a detector?

 

[NebTrac]

That's why I always tried to do FULL Digs on my videos. I also tried to mention (if I remembered) the settings I use at the time. I will have to admit that a lot of my filming was in virgin territory and there wasn't really any possibility for clad or aluminum out there. The reason I filmed there was so that myself and othes could hear the sounds on old coins. I probably learned more from watching my own videos as anyone else. We did film some in a park setting or two where we were having luck on "settler era" coins and showing some FULL digs there where confident ran high your were going to get an old coin....as the clad and shallow ones were picked off years ago. This is where, I felt, the E-Trac shined - depth and separation at depth.

We still film, but I haven't taken the time to post. What I'd like to do is an E-Trac 101 video...to help those just starting out. I know what you mean about the "found a wheat" or "here's a Merc." videos...but I do enjoy seeing those from this forum find coins, as it keeps me in touch to what there finding and every so often they will say something about their machine that helps me understand mine better.

NebTrac

 

[beachdude]

I like Bill_S's videos because he describes exactly what he is doing and you can see the entire process from finding a target, to digging, to covering the hole back up and making the ground look as good as before. He also operates, like me, in extreme trash areas. As a new ETRAC user he has accelerated the learning curve for me big time. I particularly like that sometimes even after removing the target he will keep digging to show what else is in the hole or nearby that could have skewed the signals.

 

[muconium]

I hate to say it, but I've had the same feeling watching some videos. I take into account that several hours may go by between finds that are being filmed, but I have a hard time swallowing coinspills that include multiple silvers up to Morgan dollars from the same person or people, over and over.

 

[Goes4ever]

I myself do very little full digs, for two reasons

9 out of 10 times I get a 6" deep 12-45 I am thinking silver and it turns out to be a memorial or clad dime, and that one time it is a silver, so am I gonna film all ten live digs then have to delete 9 of them? No way, if you choose to NOT believe that I dig what I show, then who cares? I hunt with tons of different people who see what I dig, if someone on the forums dont believe me, I dont give two cents care. I have NEVER filmed or posted a single thing I havent dug.

Reason two, I hunt private yards 90% of the time, and homeowners see you videoing all the time instantly think your digging something valuable and then they think your getting rich off of them, so I dont go around there yards filming every signal, if you choose to not believe my videos, then that is your choice, doesnt hurt my feeling a bit.

Like I said I hunt with enough different forum members that SEE what I dig, see what I post.......believe it or not

 

[hydrodog]

I think most of the videos are accurate, some people have very good areas to detect. If you notice they detect every chance they can for hours and they post alot a finds then you will not hear from them for a while because like all detectorist they too suffer through droughts on good finds. Then the law of diminishing finds kicks in like at a state park I hunt in the summer, last summer I found 15 silvers in one area this year only one. The larger and older the population centers that you detect the more potential to find good stuff.

 

[Damar2003]

Well I would like to think that our fellow detectorist's would not make videos about planted finds, but I do believe it happens. That being said There are guys like sscindercoop,Bill S, G4E, Treasurefiend to name a few that could make a video at home after the hunt showing just what they found and I would believe they found it. I think most videos are real but there are some I come across that just don't seem real(very few). I think the sites that some guys have access to are just quality sites and they have done the research to find them. The live dig is nice to watch, but I can see where some guys don't want to have to delete all the clad scenes . There is always going to be that "wannabe" person out there who needs everyone to think they found something awesome. It is like somone who shoots a monster buck at night and says they killed it legally. I don't know what someone gets out of that, but it happens.

 

[Bell-Two]

I agree with Goes4ever I don't do many full digs although we have had a few good ones, most turn out to be clad....or junk and they never make the video. I find it hard to film and dig at the same time, I have arthritis in my hands and need to use both to dig. Sometimes when Doug is along I will do a full dig with him fliming or vice versa. I can attest EVERYTHING we post as finds on my video is TRUE, it was found at the time it was video'd. I am too very cautious filming at private homes, one because like Terry said you do not want to give the homeowner any false impressions of what you are finding, second to protect their privacy. Occasionally with some homeowners that are very friendly I have included them in the video, it is a case by case thing. I used to film if I dug a wheatie but now that only rarely.

Now do I see videos that I think are phony....perhaps but it is only suspicions, I do not know why anyone would fake a video of planted stuff...other than for some TV shows...you know the ones I mean, because what do they gain?

 

[Agseeker]

I've felt the same way about some people's claims, but then I'm not in competition with anyone but myself. I rarely find more than one silver coin a hunt; a lot of the time I don't find any silver at all. But then where I live all the parks and schools have been heavily hunted for the past 45 years. I've been hunting around an old school for the past several months. Last Saturday I only found five coins - a Memorial cent, a clad dime, a 1941 wheat penny, a 1953 Roosevelt dime and a Chinese coin (18th century), but since I started hunting this area I've found a bunch of wheat pennies, two Buffalo nickels, seven silver dimes (including a 1906 Barber), a 1891 Portuguese coin and the Chinese coin. All this in an area the has been pounded by other MDers for years. Not much on any given hunt, but in total not bad. My quantity of silver coins is far better with the E-trak than any other detector. However, I think if I started hunting yards like Goes4ever I'd do even better.

 

[doc1964]

I agree with everything said so far - I'm mainly out there to hunt, so stopping to film every target is rather cumbersome and takes up time - and almost always puts the jinx on what ends up being under my coil! I too have seen a few vids that I take with a grain of salt - but most are ligit imho. HH

 

[muconium]

I in no way ever thought that the "respected" detectorists (the ones involved in the forums who have a passion for the hobby) do anything but show us what they are doing in the field.

But I have seen at least one video that was an obviously planted Morgan and the finder's response on film and the comments below the video seemed to indicate that.

That might make some people mad, but it just makes me sad and wonder if there was a good reason.

 

[skyblast]

When I first started out a year and a half ago I never dreamed in a million years that I would be up to 67 silver coins. In fact I still can't believe that I just type the number 67. I remember not so long ago all I ever wanted was just one, just one silver coin. Once you get your ears trained and you start to do some research on where to hunt then the silver will start to roll in. At least this is how it was for me. On my best day I hit a Walker, a silver rosie and and a silver quarter. It can happen and happens all the time.

 

[SilverBear]

I myself do very little full digs, for two reasons

9 out of 10 times I get a 6" deep 12-45 I am thinking silver and it turns out to be a memorial or clad dime, and that one time it is a silver, so am I gonna film all ten live digs then have to delete 9 of them? No way, if you choose to NOT believe that I dig what I show, then who cares? I hunt with tons of different people who see what I dig, if someone on the forums dont believe me, I dont give two cents care. I have NEVER filmed or posted a single thing I havent dug.

Reason two, I hunt private yards 90% of the time, and homeowners see you videoing all the time instantly think your digging something valuable and then they think your getting rich off of them, so I dont go around there yards filming every signal, if you choose to not believe my videos, then that is your choice, doesnt hurt my feeling a bit.

Like I said I hunt with enough different forum members that SEE what I dig, see what I post.......believe it or not

I completely agree. Some people have questioned my videos (Goes4ever haha =P) but why waste the time filming all your bad finds when you should be spending that time metal detecting?

 

[Philo_NY]

I never thought you would get so up tight by another forum members post. I've always open your posts because you seem to have a little mastery of the Mine lab Detectors, and what you have posted as dug, but to come out this way, not caring if people believe that you make the finds, but were staged. This is not the way to address others in any forum.

You know what you dug, and some of them are awesome finds, but... you need to take it easy, take a deep breath and let it go as I did about 10 years ago, when I posted a picture of a table full of all sorts of gold, from rings, ear rings, pendants, medallions, chains, wtaches, and not a few, but a number of forum members started posting that they didn't believe that I had dug all the gold in the picture, in the two years at the beach.

I just stop posting my finds and left a post, stating nicely, that, that this was the reason a lot of members didn't post their digs anymore, but... to say I didn't care if they believe the finds or not... no. Keep your good re-pore intact Goes forever, and don't fall victim to such scandals, because you get magazine editors here all the time, and I can tell you, that what you write and what, and how you write give them an impression of who you really are, and leads them to decide if should they use you in their mags articles.. just a thought. HH...

Philo_NY

PS And to those that keep making and posting these opinions as to what is and what isn't dug, you were not there, and although, yes very few are looking for attention by making post where their digs were stage, but, shame on them, they shouldn't cause a problem with those who have taken time to widen and perfect their hunting skills to be shot down by others. Just state how shameful it is to be practicing such videos or post of pictures, because we don't know who is staging these digs, so let naturalize them by just telling them here with a post, that they are celebrating all their praise in vain, because in their heart, they know they are not telling the truth for a little attention that doesn't last but a few days...

 

[Goes4ever]

sorry I offended you Philo, but I took offense to the original poster, it was a HIGHLY rude post he made, just because he is not making the finds he thinks he should be making he has to post he doesn't believe what other people post or video?? I am shocked this post wasn't deleted to begin with. It rubs me the wrong way that people doubt others in this hobby on what they find. To me that is just jealousy. Again sorry you were offended by what I said....forgive me.

 

[badjim]

i like all your videos G4E they have taught me alot. so keep on making videos all I'm still learning.

 

[Philo_NY]

Terry

Believe me when I say that I understand, and fully know how these post will raise ones blood. I've been in the hobby since 1977. But, as I said before. I have not posted too many post here or on some other forums for that reason, because I don't want to add to the turmoil, so I just roll with the punches and wait a few days until the post disappears into the past number for the day before, and come back as if nothing ever happen.

You have not offended me, as I respect hunters in our hobby that know and are lucky enough to be at a site that produces a lot of keepers. I had the run in with the Gold post, where other members got jealous, and then with the silver post when I hit a site in a park that was almost completely virgin Terry, Hundreds of silver coins every where. Evene I couldn't believe it, nut later found out that the Parks employees and then the Rangers were keeping hunters out of that site since the early 80's, and when they started the renovate the main building, they had slacked off on worrying who was going into that large patch of works.

It started with a Walker at 7 to 8 inches deep, those early detectors were not going to detect that baby, but a MineLab, right up its ally...LOL. I called it, Silverado, because I was coming home with 20 to 45, even 50 silvers a day. I worked that spot for almost two months and dug over 800 silver coins. Can you imagine digging silver every ten or twenty inches. When I posted my finds here and another forum, I got hit with the same post of the unbelievers that I could not have dug that much gold or silver. So don't fret, but keep posting those great finds and let them believe what they want to believe, because all you have to do is look at the finds and see that they have environmental damage to them... HH, and keep on hunting, matter of fact, I hope I can get out there with you Terry one of these days and hunt with you, it would be an honor...

Philo_NY

 

[Goes4ever]

Wow I must have missed those posts! What a dream spot!! I need to just find one spot half that good....and your welcome to hunt with me anytime your in Ohio, I love meeting new people to hunt with!

 

[midlifecrisis]

I would encourage anyone who regards my original post as "Highly Rude" or labels me as a "Hater" to read it again without being on the defensive from the get go. It was just a simple question. As I stated there are a lot of great videos out there and they are appreciated. Also, I understand that editing a video to show only the good finds isn't a fair representation of the entire hunt and some folks who are hunting private property are certain to do better. But this is precisely what brought me to this question. There have been some videos that are in public parks or similar, that have undoubtedly been hit numerous, numerous times and the narration often implies that these great finds are occurring within feet or minutes of the last. Another reason I brought this up is a couple of discussions I have had with random strangers who have stopped to ask me what I'm finding when I am in a public area. The last guy told me that his buddy bought a detector a while back and found 30 (yes 30) class rings at one of our local high schools. Has any one of you folks done that? Me neither. But it also made me ponder, if this guy tells his buddy that kind of story, he may just be capable of something along the lines of my original question. Personally I don't really care if this goes on or not. It's no skin off my ass either way. If it does, I envy the person who has time to create such things as I never have that much spare time. My original post was and still is just a simple question based on observations and experience. I certainly did not consider it inflammatory and to delete it is to abandon what a 'forum' actually is. I appreciate most of the responses as they understood the question to be what I thought it was. Best of luck to everyone.