XY Screen and Full Tones Last Hunt

[CZconnoisseur]

Decided to try something a little different - I've never used the XY Screen before but I think I will be using it from now on - it does help a little with some of the non-VDI hits and on the last hunt it *tried* to ID a Rosie dime from the 7-8" level.

Mike brought the Golden Mask V - which has a similar graphic readout to the Multi-TID Screen. We compared signals as we always do - and it seemed like sometimes both detectors would ID iron as a coin, and vice versa. I tried the Multi-TID screen but the XY screen gives more info on tough targets, so I used this instead. Haven't tried the XY screen in higher frequencies yet, but I'd suspect the mineralized ground would have me digging almost every deep target, junk or otherwise.

I set up my regular 4kHz program and then went into the XY Visualization screen to try and make heads or tails of some of the deep targets. The Rosie did not indicate in "regular mode" but switching to XY Screen I was getting numbers ranging from 74-88 - the audio sounded sweet but not good enough to say "That's a deep silver dime!"

Dug the gold (?) ring from just under the grass, and I remember it giving a solid 38 indication with straight lines per sweep. Dug a couple of pulltabs that read 41-42, these also gave straight lines and didn't have anything special about the audio....

The Mercury dime was from a solid 8" deep, and I remember it giving a fairly linear indication with VDI in the low 90s. Iron targets pushed the lines all over the place, as well as small, deep foil. I got better at IDing the foil, but the beavertails LOOK and SOUND like winners no matter what

So, all in all, I think the XY Screen is just another piece of the puzzle. It can attempt to ID fringe targets better than the "regular mode" by maybe one inch. I did get a lot of 90s readings which most cases were deep iron nails. There is still that *round sound* that just doesn't quite give enough info for VDI, but something pushes you to dig. I can wait a few months for v4 - hopefully if it helps with the hot mineralized ground -AND- deep iron targets then I'd be a buyer. I just don't see (YET) how 22.5kHz will help ID deep coins better than 4kHz, but if it does I won't argue one bit Gold coins will undoubtedly be easier to detect...and I know they exist where we hunt....

Next hunt I will be trying a lower Reactivity setting to try and get to the 9" deep coins and beyond.

 

[Flanaganj25]

the detector you are using sounds like you need to have a Harvard education and 4 yrs at Yale to be able to use it haha! sounds like a powerful machine but a little to involved for my simple brain. can't say enough about the finds though! you are doing great with it for sure!!!!! keep up the awesome work! I always enjoy your posts!

 

[jim tn]

Good on the gold and silver, Taylor. By the looks of all your dug targets, looks like a good deeep beep and dig would save on the brain power. Good job bud. HH jim tn

 

[trojdor]

Great job, as always.
Silver and gold...always a good combination.

Darned beaver tails on the other hand...yikes.

Most folks understand that gold can appear anywhere on the ID scale...depending on it's size and surface area.

Many don't understand that aluminum has the exact same properties...it, too, can appear anywhere on the ID scale...depending on it's size and surface area.
(And whether or not some devious fiend has folded it over into a 'coin-like' shape...)

My coins from this particular hunt were way too crusty to show...maybe the next hunt will be more photo friendly.


mike

 

[jonnied1]

CZ, I have played around with the XY Screen several times just to see what it was all about, but decided to hunt all day with it yesterday in a trashy park after reading your post.
I watched a lot of videos on Ytube and many say it is of no benefit. I came across one that made a point of aluminum can slaw (my biggest problem) showing a small deviation from being a straight line on the screen. the poster also said good targets, coins, rings etc. would have a straight line without and deviations.
I found this not to be true in some cases with coins. Nickels, pennies, and dimes were not all solid straight lines, though some were. Quarters were always a straight line.
I did find a sterling earring with an opal or similar stone with the hook attached. It did indicate with a straight line with no deviations. Rang up at 91 VDI. I was sure it was going to be a dime
I found that the pull tabs that ring up in the nickel range also have a straight line. I dug those because of the possibility of that elusive gold ring!
Steel bottle caps will never be a problem with this screen. They show up on the screen like a kid playing with an Etch A Sketch. Gotta love it!
I was using 18 Kz. yesterday.
I dug very little junk.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I am also playing around with the Multiple TID screen but need to spend more time with it.

 

[CZconnoisseur]

CZ, I have played around with the XY Screen several times just to see what it was all about, but decided to hunt all day with it yesterday in a trashy park after reading your post.
I watched a lot of videos on Ytube and many say it is of no benefit. I came across one that made a point of aluminum can slaw (my biggest problem) showing a small deviation from being a straight line on the screen. the poster also said good targets, coins, rings etc. would have a straight line without and deviations.
I found this not to be true in some cases with coins. Nickels, pennies, and dimes were not all solid straight lines, though some were. Quarters were always a straight line.
I did find a sterling earring with an opal or similar stone with the hook attached. It did indicate with a straight line with no deviations. Rang up at 91 VDI. I was sure it was going to be a dime
I found that the pull tabs that ring up in the nickel range also have a straight line. I dug those because of the possibility of that elusive gold ring!
Steel bottle caps will never be a problem with this screen. They show up on the screen like a kid playing with an Etch A Sketch. Gotta love it!
I was using 18 Kz. yesterday.
I dug very little junk.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I am also playing around with the Multiple TID screen but need to spend more time with it.

The Multi-TID screen is a bit odd, if you throw a coin down over pavement you will get a hit on both sides of the coil AND the center, with the center reading being the most accurate. It helps to straight up DISC (not notch) out the iron since it will throw the XY screen for a loop. I've found that deep 7" plus coins in our soil will indicate a very short but straight-ish line, and coupled with Full Tones and 4kHz helps identify the target's composition. Silver coins (most of the time) will be straightest and highest-pitched, but I've dug silver from some truly crap-sounding audio due to foil, nails, or both in the same hole. Have been trying to better differentiate the deep iron from deep coins - and the XY screen has helped a great deal since I've started hunting this place....

 

[jonnied1]

Good info. Thanks CZ.