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Xterra 705 rip off

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bubber

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I started out with the old Garrett detectors,and when they wouldn't do as advertised , I switched to Minelab, waaaayyy back in time. and I stayed with them, had many of their detectors,, But I think they haven't done right by touting the XT 705 as a prospecting tool. I've tried it in WASH. state and North. CA.and couldn't do anything for the hot rocks. I had the old 16000 , and it could null ll them out. Anyway, I just had to say it, I don't think they've done right by the buyers this time.. I know I'll get a lot of flack about this, but it goes with the territory.............and every one is entitled to an opinion............
 
"But I think they haven't done right by touting the XT 705 as a prospecting tool. I've tried it in WASH. state and North. CA.and couldn't do anything for the hot rocks. I had the old 16000 , and it could null ll them out."

I also used a GT 16000 in 1990 and I never remember a problem with hotrocks. But I agree with that about my X-70 as I had problems too in the Prospecting Mode with Iron Mask so I switched to C & J Mode with Sensitivity at 30 notching out the -8 hotrocks and then it worked 100% fine over the hotrock soils.

Then what make of VLF handles hotrocks in Prospecting Mode? Do ALL the new modern VLF's have the same problem?

For a small compact lightweight, grab and run unit a person maybe should use a Garrett Infinium LS for gold nuggets amongst hotrocks instead.
 
so did you come here to complain? what do you expect to accomplish by this post? I would not trade my minelab for any brand made!
 
Did you try the Tracking Ground Balance Offset, as recommended by Kevin Hoagland of Minelab? In this video, Kevin demonstrates the proper way to implement Prospecting mode with tracking GB offset, in an effort to neutralize hot rocks.
http://www.mlotv.com/view/575/prospecting-with-the-x-terra-705/

Randy
 
Yes, I came here to complain, and also that I might learn something, as I don't think I'm too old to learn. (77) So in COIN MODE, will the XT70 still pick up wheat grain size gold? Also, I have the XT70, not the 705. Thanks for the replies.
 
The initial response I made was based on your telling us that you thought the 705 was a rip off. Tracking GB offset could have helped with those hot rocks. Now that we learn you don't actually own the 705, but instead own the X-70 (which did not offer Tracking GB offset), it changes the approach to helping to find a solution to your problem. Not that someone might still be able to help you out. But hot rocks would have been more easily addressed with the 705. To answer your latest question, will the X-70 find wheat grain sized gold? Here is a post retrieved from the FAQFAQ.

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,496336,496336#msg-496336
 
Wow, that link above is about the very best I have read on the X-70 for gold, is it ever good:
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,496336,496336#msg-496336

bubber, I agree that the X-70 picked up hotrocks( - 8 and + 48 ) in certain areas and is a problem sometimes, but that is not fair and do not call the Xterra 705 a rip off when you do not even own one. I have heard the new Off-Set Tracking on the X-705 will help with hotrocks. Also the 5x10" DD HF does a bit better on hotrocks than the 6" DD HF.

The X-70 and X-705 are very good detectors in general.

Do the other prospecting VLF's, Tesoro Lobo ST, Whites MXT-GMT, Fisher Gold Bug-2, Garrett Scorpion, and Minelab Eureka Gold, also have have some problems on hotrocks in certain areas?? Do read this, it will help. Especially the post by Steve Herschbach: VLF Suggestions for Hot Ground?, What would be your choice? http://www.nuggethunting.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6087

I have a Minelab GP 3000 (Pulse Induction) and with my NuggetFinder 5x10" Mono coil it picked up strongly both hotrock and concentrated blacksand trapped in moss near a creek so it also was useless around hotrocks with a Mono but a DD is a much better choice for this as a DD sees about 70% less ground effect. IMO it is a general low-iron ferrous problem in hotrocks and blacksand inherant will all units. Some deal with it better than others.
 
Maybe there's no gold in them thar hills:shrug:(just kidding) I think from reading this thread that more education is the factor here. My X 70 and 705 pick up # 7.5 and 9 bird shot that is scattered all over my woods. I really didn't realize what all the chatter and noise was in a lot of my yard until I just looked and looked and started finding remnants of my dove killing escapades. A small .177 caliber pellet really sets the detector to singing. I'm sure that would be the reaction of gold to the machine also. I've had mine for 7 months now and everyday is a learning experience with it. Just enjoy what you have and learn learn learn from the FAQ FAQ here. Good luck and HH.
 
:minelab:Another X-Terra 70 user here and, though I haven't had the opportunity to hunt for gold nuggets, I do enjoy metal detecting with this unit and wouldn't trade it for anything else. Oh...I've had the top of the line Garret's and their good machines but heavy compared to the X-Terra's. I find that each time I go out hunting, the ground I'm detecting becomes a classroom and I'm all ears! I relish the opportunity to really get to know this machine better and, the more I hunt with it, the more I like it. If I were to upgrade, it would likely be to the X-Terra 705. Thank you Minelab for fantastic machines!

:minelab:SeniorSeeker
 
SeniorSeeker said:
:minelab:Another X-Terra 70 user here and, though I haven't had the opportunity to hunt for gold nuggets, I do enjoy metal detecting with this unit and wouldn't trade it for anything else. Oh...I've had the top of the line Garret's and their good machines but heavy compared to the X-Terra's. I find that each time I go out hunting, the ground I'm detecting becomes a classroom and I'm all ears! I relish the opportunity to really get to know this machine better and, the more I hunt with it, the more I like it. If I were to upgrade, it would likely be to the X-Terra 705. Thank you Minelab for fantastic machines!

:minelab:SeniorSeeker
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It's because you bought the right machine for the job. If you wanted to go find gold, you would go buy a pi machine.
 
Xterra 70 705 good park machine decent for beaches too. Prospecting not sure but in the right hands perhaps. Minelab makes a good machine overall but they are a bit pricey but whites fisher:pulltab::twodetecting: and garrett are too.
 
There is a bloke here in Australia who wrote many articles in our national magazine on coin, treasure and gold hunting about how good the X Terra 70 was for finding gold (small) in Victoria's Golden Triangle, where the ground is highly mineralised....showed lots of photos of the gold he said he had found. Assuming he was telling the truth, then the X Terra 70 is very good at finding gold (not deep). The coil he mainly used was the 10"x5" 18.75kHz DD coil. He doesn't write articles about Minelab machines anymore because he works for a company which sells Whites detectors, but hopefully we can believe something of what he said, and if so, the X Terra 70 should be pretty good at finding small gold.
 
Lets face it if I lived in an area with gold nuggetts instead of coal nuggets I would buy a unit made especially for that part of hobby..Sure mult-faceted units do a good job , but for an excellent job just do yourself a favor and buy a gold nugget unit made for that purpose...
 
some posts from the man of whom you speak..... http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,496336,496336#msg-496336
 
That's him, Digger. I think I read all his articles on the X Terra 70, and was inspired by what he read to buy one. I haven't regretted it for a minute. I think that for the price it is the best "all-round" machine I've ever had. I should hasten to add that I haven't used it for prospecting, but I'm confident that should I have the desire or need to do so that it would perform adequately. Hot rocks were placed there by the detecting gods to test all of us. They are a nuisance to not only gold hunters in the goldfields, but hunters on beaches (in Australia, anyway) and other places where one might find himself detecting. I dont hunt for "raw" gold, but I've certainly found my fair share of hot rocks. Like bottle caps, pulltabs etc., they are there to try us, it is up to the detectorist to cope, overcome and triumph. Sapper.
 
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