XP METAL DETECTORS?

[maria8forever]

Just wondering if anyone in the USA has tried or owns a XP metal detector.I have looked at them in action on u-tube and they look good! You can also see them for sell in the UK at www.regton.com.It is pretty cool to also look at the UK version Tesoro detectors,some have slightly different features and names.I might want to start a XP revolution here in the USA if i can get my hands on one!.

 

[maria8forever]

Do you think the xp looks like a good detector?www.regton.com

 

[SteveP(NH)]

They want something like $120 - $150 to ship a machine from the UK to the states. I wanted to try out a cscope and couldn't find shippig cheaper than that.

 

[Shambler]

Everyone buys the XP Goldmaxx Power and its not FCC legal in the states. You wont see tests of the others. The Iron volume is a great concept - I have a feeling you'll see it from someone here in time. Tesoro would be a perfect candidate to incorporate something like that.

 

[UK Brian]

I have detectorists over from the States most years and I try to talk them out of taking back XP's for a variety of reasons.

1 The Goldmaxx Power isn't legal due to the fact that the circuit board is constantly broadcasting to the wireless headphones even if you don't have the headphones. The way round this is to buy the previous model "Goldmaxx" and make certain it hasn't had the transmitter upgrade fitted.

2 The Power gains a little on depth over the Goldmaxx but loses the standard Tesoro type discrimination which can work better on some sites and gives full range discrimination for parks, the top of the beach etc.

3 The original Goldmaxx has more colour to the audio which helps with I.D.

4 The Goldmaxx and Goldmaxx Power are not that deep as they are intended for plough soil and run at 18 kHz. For pasture the low frequency models are a better choice.

5 No XP at this time offers a good wet beach performance. The XP 100 which was the cheapest of the whole range worked best but had the drawback of having the worse performance on land.

6 No true ground balance and as I found to my cost there's lots of land in the U.S. that's just to hot for the machines to cope with. Don't forget with the Power they make a point that the machine is specifically set up for U.K. conditions.

7 A big selling point was the fast recovery speed. Other machines are now as fast or faster. Though I have both low and high frequency XP's and still use them I also have a T2 and have had the F75. I kept the T2 over the Fisher for its wider low range ferrous discrimination. If I was in the States general coinshooting I would go for the F75.

8 The F75 and T2 are more versatile. You can get away with having either one whereas with the XP's, much as I like them, you need two to cover both frequencies.

I still haven't managed to bring myself to sell either of my XP's but things have moved on in the last few years. I would be worth seeing what the long awaited new model is like. There's a suggestion it will be twin or multifrequency but they might surprise us with a pulse.

 

[Shambler]

wow... great information! I'll stop dreaming of the XP machines Does the "iron volume" concept translate to something useful in your opinion?

 

[crowbar]

I purchased my very first metal detector and it is an XP GoldMaxx Power with the v4 chip and the standard DD coil.

Yes, I did get sold on the recovery test. And I haven't yet field tested it yet. Just trying air test shows it doesn't have the depth I read it was capable of. Maximum distance for coins was around 6 inches. Being new to the hobby perhaps I'm doing something wrong. I do believe a person needs to learn how to use a detector first before making full use of it's capabilities.

The detector has a three position toggle switch labeled Freq Shift for the wireless headphone output. Center position is said to be able to switch off the transmitter and not use up battery life. If UK Brian is correct then the switch isn't working properly.

One purpose I thought about was to use the detector for nugget hunting. After all, it is a gold detector isn't it? Having a small vial of 1/20th an ounce of dust/nugget mixture is making for a good test. It failed to detect. I moved it in until I was touching the sample against the coil and now was getting a strange result. The detector would begin to sound off then cut itself off. I had to be center point of the coil for this to happen. My conclusion is that the coil is not the correct coil to use for nugget detecting...that is if this detector can find a nugget.

If coins is your bag then this detector appears to be good for looking. I air tested a copper lincoln, an old nickel, a clad dime, a silver eagle, a 2 1/2 dollar gold and a Canadian maple leaf. There were good solid tones. The gold makes a distinct different tone. I was unable to hear differently for the other coins, but must admit my hearing isn't as good as it used to be. Distance is only about six inches on detecting in air.

I have emailed Nigel Ingram about the XP GoldMaxx Power using different coils for nugget hunting. The air test shows good distance on a much larger coil. Buying different coils and hoping for a hit is expensive. The small elliptical or spider would be interesting to see what happens when a nugget is brought within it's field. Hopefully Nigel can do these tests if he has these coils on hand.

My conclusion so far is that the XP is a coin hunter and that I need to purchase a nugget detector if I intend to hunt nuggets. Minelab, Garrett, Tesoro, Fisher, Bounty Hunter, Whites, et al are considered to be nugget hunter detectors...but all models do not find nuggets! Youtube videos of nugget detectors makes for good viewing. Minelab 4000 series dominates. There's a Garrett Infinium locating a nugget. Also there's a White's TDI locating one as well. I'll keep my XP for now, but one day it may be sold if I can't get it to locate nuggets.

 

[UK Brian]

I have a feeling that the iron control was to be the next development in the Troy range. He's supposed to have developed a new model but its getting someone to build it.

The Adventis is the best bang for your bucks XP machine but to have depth and the Goldmaxx type iron control, the lower frequency GMaxx or its new version GMaxx 2 (G-Maxx NOT Goldmaxx) is what you need. But as I said in my other post many, many people over here have now moved on to the T2 and F75 which is going to be the cheapest option for anyone in the States and no problem about having to ship the detector back to France for repairs.

 

[crowbar]

I received my reply to the question about using a different coil for nugget hunting: "...for gold you would be best with either 5x10 elliptical coil or 9" Concentric, I know that XP made the concentric coil specifically for finding extremely small gold in high mineralisation sites, hope this helps. Regards, Nigel Ingram.

Appears Nigel doesn't have the coils on hand and I'm gonna have to L@@K into making a purchase of the 9" concentric otherwise known as: search coil 25x21 cm. Thank you Nigel. If it's too high priced...ugh. Hoping for the best results I am.

 

[crowbar]

I see said the blind man as he sawed through the wood. XP's concentric search coil, 25x21 cm, part number XP020GO, will set a hobbyist back

 

[crowbar]

Update on XP GoldMaxx Power with v4 chip:

Thursday I received in the mail an optional mounting bracket that moves the control box just forward of the grip. My thought was if there would be any difference moving the box in some. No, it didn

 

[Tom5]

Hi!
I had many machines already, like what Minelab Explorer II Pro, White's instruments and then I could enumerate it. Currently single XP Adventis I have an instrument, and we compared it with the more expensive metal earners many times, than Garrett GTI 2500 and Minelab Explorer machines. Basis in equipment, basis with a head it XP overcame it all of them. Garrett was a big coil on a metal earner moreover.
Let him consider one like this as himself if somebody would like a good instrument for himself.
It XP Adventis behaves so than if 18-Khz a frequency machine would be tall, though 4,6-Khz it's working. Awfully tiny things takes it out and very sensitive! A real one is a coin hunter! E- the element with what he works, generally
until two months burns if I am going every day with him.
It beneficial metal earner, since his weight and his setting are with an immense tear it's very simple! Massive machines, not kerreg, does not buzz, signals to his host if there is something valuable under the earner head only. I learned it under a month all of the machine, and I was able to define it with the passing of a month that tiny object, big object, silver gold bronze copper aluminium I found an object. I recommend it from among a clear heart for everybody!

 

[crowbar]

The XP GoldMaxx Power with the v4 chip is my only VLF detector and I have decided it to be a keeper. I came across a 1.2 gram gold nugget that can be detected out to 6 - 7 inches. That's not bad at all. I think smaller gold will be detected too but at a closer distance. I figure a half gram should be detected around 2 - 3 inches.

Excellant! XP

There is one thing about the XP that I like very much and it is the tones I hear. Low conductive metals like gold give a lower tone as opposed to the high conductive metals like silver that give a higher tone. Something that sets this detector apart from others is the sound you will hear around iron. There's a buzzing as best to describe the sound. I got sold on the recovery test (as you should be) and that was enough to gain my interest to make the purchase. If your looking for a high end VLF detector I highly recommend it. I am very happy and will never part with it.

 

[dahut]

The F75 and T2 are more versatile. You can get away with having either one whereas with the XP's, much as I like them, you need two to cover both frequencies.

I appreciate your viewpoint Brian, and honest input.

 

[crowbar]

Now that's just downright rude there dahut. You just called my input as being dishonest. I am in no way affilated with XP and could care less what detector anyone desides to choose as that is a matter of choice. There are plenty of good detectors out there and as I have learned some people own more than one. As for myself I own more than one and may own a Fisher one day too as UKBrian's input is very informative. While I don't consider any one detector as being perfect for use everywhere I do believe being in the right place with the right detector at the right time is important. One thing anyone should beware of is businessmen and their idyllic partisan affiliations and innate comments.

Got Detector?

 

[Steve(MS)]

I don't believe we have any dealers that carry XP here in the US which makes it less attractive to us on this side of the pond.
Even if we did, the price would be a factor compared to detectors we can buy here.
I've seen a few floating around here in the States but no very many and getting additional coils would likely be problem
not to mention if it needed service.
I almost bought a used one several years back but what is mentioned above caused me not to pull the trigger.

 

[dahut]

Now that's just downright rude there dahut. You just called my input as being dishonest. I am in no way affilated with XP and could care less what detector anyone desides to choose as that is a matter of choice. There are plenty of good detectors out there and as I have learned some people own more than one. As for myself I own more than one and may own a Fisher one day too as UKBrian's input is very informative. While I don't consider any one detector as being perfect for use everywhere I do believe being in the right place with the right detector at the right time is important. One thing anyone should beware of is businessmen and their idyllic partisan affiliations and innate comments.

Got Detector?

I said all that?

I believe I said Brian's input was honest, as in unflinching. I didn't discount yours as dishonest. That is a leap, certainly. However, it wasn't my intent to ruffle feathers. I intended, rather, to reinforce his comments. Guess it worked... and sorry if I knocked some of your dander loose.

He simply makes some good points which are not pandering. They are facts as he sees them. He doesn't say the XP is bad, far from it in fact. He just sees more to the story, as it were.
I respect that about Brian - always have.

His comments struck me as this: "Why pay steep tariffs to import a detector, which is really purpose designed for English conditions - when there already exists homegrown detectors that do what needs doing?"

Hey if you want one, great! If someone wants one over here, great! Whatever floats your boat.

But it just seems a little frivolous to me (and apparently to at least one other), and, well... I'm rarely chary to say so.

 

[crowbar]

Ah, such is life...it just appears bad in the post and I must have stubbed my toe that day.

Dahut, you

 

[bfodnes]

Hi.

Have been using my Goldmaxx now for 2 years and on plowed fields and relichunting it is the best machine I have used. Goldmaxx has the 18 khz freq and very good recovery speed so it is a good detector for smaller finds in the iron. Bigger things at depth or better massive silver coins like the USA type and You may be better off with the Gmaxx working at 4,6 khz.

In parks and other trashy sites I still use my other detectors.

What is very good with both of the two in any situation is the wireless headphones and the sounds.

BTW, XP is just releasing their new machine. Too early to say anything but it is using some very new and innovative features.

Regards.

bjorn

 

[UK Brian]

Interesting. I've still got my Goldmaxx and a 4.6 kHz XP to cover both plough and pasture but I tend to use the T2 more as it covers both detecting environments so well. I actually advertised my Goldmaxx for sale a few weeks ago and ended up parting with a Troy Shadow X5 instead !

I think there will be a parting of the ways between me and the XP's. The new machine might fill the gap but I'm still not convinced about the benefits of multifrequency except on the wet sand. If the new detector can do what is being claimed then its going to hit the sales of many upper range machines but it will have to be good if the price is in fact