XP DEUS in iron nail infested yards?

[Tony N (Michigan)]

On this property I've detected on, it goes back to around 1820. Problem is the yard is littered with old square cut iron nails. I mean they are everywhere!
The former owners before me moved here in 1920 and tore down the original home and scavenged the wooden beams and whatever else and built a two story house.
When taking apart the old house they must have just pulled and tossed the old iron nails into the yard.

My question is: How well would the Deus do in a situation like this where coins could be hiding under or next to these nails?

There is also a plethora of "junk" that was just tossed out into the yard as well not to mention old roofing nails for shingles.

 

[Architex]

Watch all the videos by Gary you can manage. You will learn nearly anything you need to know from them.

 

[amberjack]

big magnet would help?

AJ

 

[Old California]

Hello Tony,

I'm finding the higher the kHz the better the separation under these type of conditions with iron, recently purchased the 9" HF coil and it's a game changer. Using the highest kHz with the HF coil, unmasking is greatly enhanced sees though iron better. Old pounded site's thick with iron is were you'll see the higher kHz coil work miracles, made a believer out of me.

Good luck,
Paul

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

Hello Tony,

I'm finding the higher the kHz the better the separation under these type of conditions with iron, recently purchased the 9" HF coil and it's a game changer. Using the highest kHz with the HF coil, unmasking is greatly enhanced sees though iron better. Old pounded site's thick with iron is were you'll see the higher kHz coil work miracles, made a believer out of me.

Good luck,
Paul

Thanks for the great info Paul. What is the 9" HF coil you are getting? Who makes it?

 

[Old California]

Tony,

The White HF 9" just came out, Deus makes it. Received it last month, the battery slides inside the shaft.

An elliptical coil with an even higher kHz will be released soon, I'll be ordering that one as well.

They only operate with V4, I'll be using them in area's with thick iron. And they are great getting smaller thinner coins.

Take care,
Psul

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

big magnet would help?

AJ

So would a backhoe
It would take one of those magnets that pick up cars. These iron nails are about 6 to 10 inches deep.
But that is a thought. I wonder if I can rent one?

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

Tony,

The White HF 9" just came out, Deus makes it. Received it last month, the battery slides inside the shaft.

An elliptical coil with an even higher kHz will be released soon, I'll be ordering that one as well.

They only operate with V4, I'll be using them in area's with thick iron. And they are great getting smaller thinner coins.

Take care,
Psul

Thanks for the great information! That's what's so great about Findmall. We all help each other!

 

[Listener]

Make it a little easier to see what might be there, and start a little farther away from the house, where the old clothesline was or in the shaded side where they sat in the evenings to cool off. At least do a little griding in those areas and work them clean.

 

[TN Mike]

I've been playing in all metal disc and man am I stunned at how well it preforms in iron tests. Run my disc at 7, just high enough to knock out iron nails and the ferrous non ferrous separation is excellent. Cranking up the tune makes for some neat results as well. And it goes deep.

Edit: Take a nail and try taking the dime and setting it directly on the nail with again, your disc just high enough to silence the nail in all metal disc. Then swipe the coil length wise to the nail and the Deus will hit it in both directions. It will even hit the dime at shallower distances with the nail roughly 2" directly above the dime coil sweeping length-wise to the nail! The Deus is amazing.

 

[E-Trac-Ohio]

Gary's "Sifter" program is great in heavy iron !

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

Thanks for sharing!
I wonder if it will find the nail if it is resting on top of the dime?

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

In the last 20 years I've probably been over every square inch around the house. But I know there has to be coins hiding underneath or near the nails. I pulled out a Barber dime sitting right next to a nail in the driveway a few years back with my Muskateer.

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

I've been playing in all metal disc and man am I stunned at how well it preforms in iron tests. Run my disc at 7, just high enough to knock out iron nails and the ferrous non ferrous separation is excellent. Cranking up the tune makes for some neat results as well. And it goes deep.

Edit: Take a nail and try taking the dime and setting it directly on the nail with again, your disc just high enough to silence the nail in all metal disc. Then swipe the coil length wise to the nail and the Deus will hit it in both directions. It will even hit the dime at shallower distances with the nail roughly 2" directly above the dime coil sweeping length-wise to the nail! The Deus is amazing.

I wonder if it will find the dime with a nail resting on top of the dime? Just curious.

Also, rather than disc out the nail, can the Deus be silenced when it hits a hail but give a report when it hits a dime?

 

[TN Mike]

It sure will. The thing with digging in iron (you may already know this) is that the VDI matters very little. If iron is near the dime it will pull the VDI way down, even to 0. But the key is, is that the detector is seeing a ferrous target and beeping, and the non ferrous iron is silent. You then dig all the beeps....$$$

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

It sure will. The thing with digging in iron (you may already know this) is that the VDI matters very little. If iron is near the dime it will pull the VDI way down, even to 0. But the key is, is that the detector is seeing a ferrous target and beeping, and the non ferrous iron is silent. You then dig all the beeps....$$$

As you can see, these nails are rather formidable. There are many, smaller ones absolutely everywhere in the yards of this place I live.
I need something that can hear coins in their midst.

 

[TN Mike]

Ok took the Deus out for a while and played with the all metal disc and I will say I didnt get the same results as I did in testing on the bench (whos surprised?). That being said it seems that iron will have to be about 5" or so away from the coil for the disc to knock it out. Anything.. and i do mean anything shallower will be treated like a ferrous target. This is kinda sucky :sad:. But so long as your digging deeper iron (5"+) the disc will knock it out and you can still get a dime next to a nail cleanly.

I'm gonna go read up on the all metal disc in Andys book..

 

[TN Mike]

Thats some nasty iron. I'll keep reading and playing around with setting as I have a old home site I'm gearing up to hunt. Maybe we can find something that works well.

 

[amberjack]

how deep are the coins?

try the hot program and change reactivity to 5 and silencer to full try that then go the other extreme reactivity at low silencer at low should get a handle on what's better of those 2 then tweak as needed.

I found turning reactivity to 5 at 7 kHz and discing up high worked also just have to fiddle see what knocks the iron out best

there are not a million settings which I like but enough that can get most jobs done with some form of sanity remaining

and there's always something else to try......

AJ

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

It sure will. The thing with digging in iron (you may already know this) is that the VDI matters very little. If iron is near the dime it will pull the VDI way down, even to 0. But the key is, is that the detector is seeing a ferrous target and beeping, and the non ferrous iron is silent. You then dig all the beeps....$$$

I saw a great video on YouTube on the Deus and iron nails. The guy had some 2 x 4's stacked up with about 4 inches cut out and a coin on the bottom. An iron nail was placed next to each side of the cutout. The Deus picked up the coin where the other detectors couldn't.
I don't know what setting he was using though.