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Xenical's OTC form, Alli (a 1/2 dose) is almost FDA approved. Would you use it knowing it blocks out Vitamins D, E, K & beta-carotene & makes you poop

Art SC

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January 20, 2006 - A pharmaceutical company that seeks federal approval for over-the-counter sales of a prescription diet pill that blocks the absorption of fat faces questions on the pill's potential for creating vitamin deficiencies and encouraging abuse.

A Food and Drug Administration advisory committee is to discuss on Monday allowing over-the-counter sales of orlistat, which GlaxoSmithKline Consumer Healthcare proposes to market as Alli (pronounced "ally"). That version would be half the dose of the prescription form of the drug, known as Xenical, which won FDA approval in 1999.

An FDA reviewer found the drug is a "safe and effective weight loss agent," but held off on recommending whether the Endocrinologic and Metabolic Drugs Advisory Committee should in turn recommend to the FDA that it approve the drug for sale without a prescription.

The drug acts by blocking the absorption of about one-quarter the fat a patient consumes. That fat is then passed out of the body in stools, which are usually loose and oily as a result. In addition, the reported incidents of test subjects having at least one episode of involuntary defication was almost 100% in the case study.

In six-month clinical trials, obese subjects who took orlistat lost on average 5.3 pounds to 6.2 pounds more than did those who were given dummy pills, according to FDA documents released Friday.

FDA reviewer Dr. Karen Feibus said the primary concern with the drug is its potential to create vitamin deficiencies, since its use also would block absorption of fat-soluble vitamins like D, E, K and beta-carotene.

The company recommends patients take multivitamins when using the drug, said Steve Burton, GlaxoSmithKline's vice president of weight control. Whether that would happen remains unclear: at least 47 percent of the people involved in trials of the drug did not take multivitamins as recommended, the FDA said.

Orlistat may also block some drugs, including cyclosporine, used to prevent rejection of kidney, liver and heart transplants. Orlistat shouldn't be taken with that drug, the FDA said. Although a majority of diabetics contract the disease due to obesity, the blocking of cyclosporine would pretty much preclude many diabetics from using the drug.

Furthermore, just 35 percent of diabetes patients in a study correctly stated the drug was not appropriate for them to use, according to agency documents.

The regulatory agency also is concerned about increased potential for abuse or misuse of the prescription-free version of the drug, especially among bulimics or binge-eaters who could develop vitamin deficiencies due to chronic use of the drug. There are at least four published reports of women suffering from bulimia using the prescription form of the drug as a purgative. An estimated 22 million people worldwide have used the drug.

"We believe there is a very low potential for misuse and abuse. But we need to be vigilant," Burton said.

The unpleasantness of the drug's side effects, including the "involuntary leakage" of undigested fat, should limit its abuse, said Dr. Howard Eisenson, director of the Duke Diet and Fitness Center in Durham, N.C.

"I think to some extent, the side effects will limit the potential for abuse, because the side effects are uncomfortable or messy," said Eisenson, adding he has no financial ties to the drug or its manufacturer.

The company plans to limit sales of the drug to adults. It expects women to make up 80 percent of the expected market for the drug, which would cost consumers an estimated $12 to $25 a week.

The company intends to package Alli as part of an overall diet and fitness program. The program would emphasis eating a lower-fat diet, to both cut calories and curtail the drug's effect on a user's stools.

United Kingdom-based GlaxoSmithKline's U.S. operations are based in Philadelphia and Research Triangle Park, N.C.

The company declined to share sales projections, but said that 130 million Americans are overweight or obese and that consumers spend $23 billion each year on weight-loss strategies.


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In actuality, you would lose no more weight on this pill than you would on a moderate diet. In fact, you would probably lose more weight on a moderate diet than on this pill.

But in answer to your question, would I use it?... absolutely not. I can hardly afford my Depends as it is. (I hope you know that's a joke!) That side effect of "explosive diarrhea" will no doubt fall under Murphy's Law when it happens... "the worst possible time at the worst possible place". That is one bodily function I would like to keep complete control of, thank you.

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We are working on the building that will produce this product. The steel is up and they have started to pour the floors and put the siding on the building at the same time. Glaxo is in one big hurry on this one. we are working 7/10s and these people want us to go faster.

There are 9 different trades on the job now and everyone is getting in each others way. Most jobs like this only allow 2 to 3 trades on the job to cut down on the confusion and congestion at the job site. Not these guys. they want every thing done yesterday.

It is a shame that cameras are verboten on the job. some of you guys in the construction industry would get a kick out of the mass of workers in the same space getting very little done.



today they are planning to spread rebar and wire mesh on a floor that hasn't been decked yet :rofl:and they dug a trench across the only exit big enough to drive the crane through to exit the site. i can't wait to see what happens when they realize their mistake.
 
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