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X-Terra and Shaft length

The X-Terra's have adjustments for both the shaft length and the arm
cup location - both of which allow the detector to be sized to specific users. In this photo, the X-30 fits a user 4'9' and 6'2" . . . . . it is as adjustable out of the box as just about any detector on the market.
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look at the bend in her elbow and how far the coil is in front of her foot. That is NOT a good fit and will make it feel a lot heavier. Of course she is going to grow into it.

Tom
 
I've found over the years that "fit" is often a matter of personal preference so I'm not going to weigh in on whether the the young girl in the photograph is comfortable with the detector or not.

All I can say from my personal experience is that I am 5' 8" tall & had no problems adjusting the X-Terra to fit my swinging style. And I could have shortened it more if I needed to. I haven't noticed any problems with the shaft length & adjustibility that would cause me to have reservations about the X-Terra's fitting a range of different height users.

Bill (S. CA)
 
You can always shorten a lower rod with a tubing cutter or a rotary tool, found at any hardware store. Cut it off at the top end. Drill new a new hole for the metal clip, and you are ready to go. Don't cut it too short though. Lengthening them.....now that is a bit more difficult. HH
 
the only way Minelab might have been able to satisfy everyone both the vertically challenged and those of us that are tall would have been to use a standard S-handle which would have given them much several more stops of adjustment over the modified S-handle design they chose instead. No detector will ever be perfect for everyone but at least this one will work for the taller people and can be easily shortened for people that need it shorter.

It seems to me that for the most part people are really going out of thier way to come up with things to complain about the Xterra. I am surprised no one has brought up the headphone door opening in a direction that somewhat intereferes with the 90 degree headphone jacks on most of our headphones. You would have thought they would have made the door open the other way so that it would be out of the way when using headphones. You can always find things wrong with anything if you look hard enough.

Personally I think the Xterra 50 is a nice departure from previous Minelabs and shows that they are actually listening to what we as endusers would like to see in a detector. One thing that is a really unique is the Xterra's ability to maintain both Audio and visual TID in the All Metal Mode. This is something that has long been missing in a detector and I think will be a great advatage to those of us who like to hunt with low levels of discrimination.

JMHO

HH

Beachcomber
 
The X-Terra fits me just fine, but I can see where the short folks are going to have a hard time getting the coil in the right position without unnecessary arm fatigue.
 
I think Minelab designed it that way intentionally. Think about it: if it rains, it's actually protecting the jack from taking on water! I was just happy it was on the left side. How many detectors have we seen designed with the jack on the right side? Great for lefties but not the majority of right hand users. I maintain Minelab did an excellent job with this unit. Thank God they finally got the rod set up right! HH George
 
Not sure how others adjust their detectors as far as length goes, but I have had a number of people try my X-Terra's ranging in height from 4'9" to 6'4" and none of them had any complaints about the length after adjusting both the shaft & the armrest cuff. My daughter in the photo hunted with me for 2 hours without a problem using the X-30 shown. I guess I needed to provide an MPEG file showing her hunt with it since the critics found issues with her "stance" - the photo was simply to show that it would shorten enough for her to use it. Her position was posed for the photo and she hunts with her arm straightened out as she should and the detector worked fine for her. If you have it in the 4th hole at 6'tall, the coil is way too close to your body.

The perfect balance point is to extend the detector to the point that you can extend your arm out with just a slight bend at the elbow and hold the detector in your hand (unclenched fist) with the coil on the ground in front of you. Try to sweep the coil side to side without clenching the grip and adjust the length / armrest cuff to the point where it glides back and forth without straining your arm or coming out of your hand. Too close in and you will feel it . . . . too far out and you will be contorting yourself to hunt. I equate the ideal setting to be where the detector can be swept side-to-side with the had grip resting in your hand with the fingers open; i.e., let it float as you sweep it. At this point, you will not be supporting the detectors weight with your arm or wrist - both of which tend to tire you out in the field after any length of time hunting.

But as Bernie, Steve, Bill P. and others have said, it seems that people are trying awfully hard to find things WRONG with the X-Terra . . . . . someone actually complained about the color of the X-30 preferring the blue over the red! It's sad that one has to look so hard that it comes down to not liking the color of a detector as a deciding factor to buy it or not.

If Minelab had the perfect detector, heck they would be the only company left in business - the same goes for any of the other manufacturers. There is no one perfect detector (or even brand) that will suit everyone's needs for every type of hunting in every type of ground condition. Use what works for you and if the XXXXXX detector (enter any brand or model you want to compliment or criticize) does not meet your needs for whatever reason, DO NOT BUY IT! If it does, by all means stick with it and master it.

Back in the 1970's and 1980's, technology was improving quickly and we all needed to upgrade our detectors every year or so to stay competitive. That rate of change has slowed in the past 10+ years. If you have a higher-end detector that is fairly new and you are doing well with it, you should consider whether you should be replacing what you have with a new detector, especially one that was never touted as replacing a top-of-the-line model; i.e., the X-Terra. I have had a number of people ask me about selling their Explorer to get an X-Terra . . . . . even though they are doing extremely well with the EXII or XS. Why? They thought that being a newer detector, it would perform better. Again, if you have mastered your detector and are happy with the results, at least TRY a new one in comparison to what you have before you start at the bottom of the learning curve again. The X-Terra series was designed for a targeted segment of the market and it serves that market quite well based on the feedback to date. It's not an Explorer III or a GP 5000 or a DFX 2 want-to-be or a replacement for any other top-of-the-line detector. Will seasoned hunters buy them? Of course as it works well, is lightweight and is fun to use. Why do you think that Garrett has been so successful with the Ace 250? Beginners are not the only ones using them . . . . . a lot of vetran hunters have started to use them almost as much as their main units . . . . heck, I have two of them and both me and my kids have a ball with them - they work well and couldn't be simpler to use!

A lot goes into what makes a detector "RIGHT" for a user. For some it's weight (or lack of), for others it's ease of use or raw detection depth or discrimination or color . . . . . find what works for you and that's your perfect detector!

I've told this story to demostrate this point at a number of the shows I've given talks at. Several years ago I had a friend that got interested in detecting based on the stuff I would bring in to work on occasion. He opted for a lower-priced detector from a major manufacturer and was looking forward to using it. I took him to a military parade ground that I had done well at in the past. I was using a $1000+ detector. I explained to him how to set and use his new detector and we went off in separate directions. An hour or so later he came over and you could see the frustration on his face. He was ready to beat me with the detector. All he had was a few modern coins and a ton of trash. I tried to explain what he had done wrong but when he saw the handful of silver coins, a gold ring and other goodies I had he swore I had sold him a lemon. I told him to take my detector and after a quick lesson, he walked off confident that he would be the winner now. Well, an hour or so later what do you think happened . . . . . he was back just as ticked off as before. A few coins and more trash. Then the light came on when he saw I had more silver coins and military artifacts with very little trash. I had known how to interpret what either detector was telling me and he did not. He mastered that detector and years later, he is still using it with great success - often out hunting those with newer and more expensive units. Lesson . . . . . learn what you have and you will do well.

OK, down from the soap box again . . . . . (and waiting for the usual E-mails)

Andy Sabisch
 
I don't think anyone needs to get defensive about negative comments about any new detector. Heck, I bought mine after reading everything I could find on all of the forums and asking the testers and other users a ton of questions. I knew all of the negative stuff when I placed my order. 5 minutes after I took it out of the box, I had the stand problem fixed perfectly. But when I put the rod together, I could see that it might be a bit too long for shorter people, even though it is perfect for me (I'm 6 foot tall). I'm excited about this new detector and I will be using it for the first time, starting this morning (the real hunt will be tomorrow). I hope Minelab can come up with an easy fix so it will fit everyone. I'm going hunting!

Bill
 
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