Wow I need more time with my relic!!

[Stoof-tabsallday]

Either the area I was in sucked or I need to learn my detector more. In fairness I've only used it 3 times.
Looking for gold so I dug everything over iron.
LOTS of trash. Like all trash.
1 nickel and 3 pennies all clad. Just a rough patch I hope.
Maybe next time will he better.

 

[amberjack]

every hunt is different, and got to have ordinary days to appreciate the good ones.

AJ

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

I need to get better on the VDI numbers too. Many say with time they know what's under the coil.
I'm very proficient with my tesoros, but this is a different beast as well as style of detecting.
Hmmm. It was a sad day, but impressive to see how deep that thing will go. I'm used to the idea of high on the knob is silver and clad, but with this one, I don't get the numbers. I just need time I guess. Time and remember what rings up as what.

 

[amberjack]

yep look at the numbers then dig you will see the pattern emerging , having solid ID has not been this company's forte as of yet mine is ok but its no F19 but still its better than any of the other high kHz detectors on the market.

so yes they have some work to do but they are doing it and time will help them with the coin detecting market.

I have only used the GR and its based on the red racer ID platform which is/wasn't the best, don't know if the relic is any better , they find stuff don't get me wrong very twitchy though and maybe with time that can be used as an asset after all I have to learn the detector not it me.

so people either learn a machine or sell and try something else, I have learnt to give them 100 hrs. before I decide what the future holds with the detector.

AJ

 

[Furious T]

If you're knocking out iron, then it's highly likely that you're knocking out very small gold as well.

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

If you're knocking out iron, then it's highly likely that you're knocking out very small gold as well.

What do you mean knocking out iron?

A gent here posted lots and lots of gold pieces from very fine chains to large men's rings. He wrote where they fell out on the compadre and vaquero. The lowest even the fine chain went out was below foil except the fine chain which needed all metal and only came in on the compadre.

I didn't know gold came in at and below iron, most of my experience is with tesoros.

 

[dbado1]

In my experience with the Relic it gives pretty good VDI #s. Remember, this is a specific purpose machine designed for RELIC hunting. Usually done in heavily infested iron sites. Co-located iron will skew VDI#s on any machine. This isn't a coin machine. Comparing it to a coin machine- designed to give accurate ID#s so you don't go digging a bunch of holes in manicured lawns-doesn't work. This machine is designed to pull non-ferrous from heavily infested ferrous areas- period. Dig everything above iron until you become more confident with the tones and numbers.

Gold won't come in below the iron range. If you are looking for gold dig everything above iron every time.

I agree with AJ you've got to put in about 100 hours learning a machine's nuances.

Dean

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

Thanks dean.
That's pretty much been my tactic lately. I dig everything.
Not even sure where iron comes in. Getting alot of 28/30 VDI which has been pieces of aluminum and foil bits.
Near the end of my last hunt I wasn't digging those anymore. But if they come a little higher or lower, I dig them.
Haha not 1 coin or good target. 4 hours of cleaning up underground.
Those hunts happen. Usually I'll venture over to a basketball court or tennis court at the end to get some coins for confidence.
Still clueless to what numbers mean what.
Definitly gonna need about 100 hours like you said.
Same things will show up different.
Gonna run a more thorough bench test also and log a cheat sheet to help me along.
As far as coins, the manual is spot on or the programming is lol.
It will just take time.
Good problem to have, too many detectors too little time.

 

[amberjack]

its a good idea to do what you said lay down all the coins you might, will encounter and get some numbers to work off, the makro I have is ok at id ing the whites is ok at id ing seriously the best machine I have used for id ing modern coins is a gold bug pro / F19.

I am talking spot on day in day out all day every day it really is my bench mark detector and well none have made it there yet.

not bad for a gold detector with disc

anyway I know this isn't a fisher forum so I am sorry but yes do the cheat sheet as you call it, but there's no cheating in detecting

my mate is the same he says as where detecting to me whats this number so I have to give him a list of what it could be and sometimes I even get it right.

for me if I paid for a screen I am going to use it to my full advantage and that takes some work as in your cheat sheet then in field testing and seeing the in ground range of detector A on that coin might be 70 to 75 for example and the bench test was 71 to 74 as the example.

so yes work before detecting.

I just got a new detector my kitchen floor has about 10 coins on it and I start the detector and wave it over them when I feel like it. strange but true and I just want to see the screen really at this point pay attention to sound to but mainly numbers.

so my point is it pays off doing a bit of work before heading out.

I would say go clad hunting for a few months with the relic , don't worry about gold disc up and grab some clad get the feel for the detector gain some confidence with the machine, the gold's not going anywhere, its not a race disc up have some fun get a feel for high conductors you will pick up silver as well and enjoy yourself, its not a race its meant to be fun !!

AJ

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

K thanks aj.
I can't do that inside. The detector picks up all the nails and wiring lol.
But I'll just stick to my tesoros for that ring hunt in that area and just have fun with the relic for now.
Hood plan!!

 

[dbado1]

Stefan,
On the Relic, the iron range is 20 and below. Gold will come in around the foil range. Gold is funny though, it is alloyed with other metal to make it stronger so it will come in at various ranges depending on it's mix. So, numbers are not predictable with gold. Take some of your own gold jewelry and put it on the ground and go over different pieces. Your numbers will be all over the place but usually low/mid- in the foil range. When hunting gold, always dig the low numbers above iron. You will dig a ton of pull tabs and foil targets...which means you are on the right track! If you aren't digging foil and pull tabs you aren't digging gold either. HH

Dean