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Would like to pose a question for everyone ..

MNCoinhunter

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If you all don't mind .. please tell me why your detector is better than my Minelab Explorer. I am considering a change for various reasons. But the biggest one is too much information, if that is believable. I would love to try a detector where you must rely on sound alone. Or at the very least without so many bells and whistles. CTX users may respond but I am not prepared to sell one of my organs to finance one.
 
Keep the SE because if you get rid of it you will likely be sorry . You could also try out a Teknetics T2 and/or a White's M6 , one or both of these with your SE may spice things up for you . Just my opinion from detectors I am familiar with . Different detectors work for different people . There's a lot of good choices out there .
 
I do have the AT Pro for a change of pace. And I do like my Explorer, it has been very kind to me. But I just get tired of the "noise" sometimes. Who am I kidding, you are right and I would never sell my SE.
 
McDave said:
I do have the AT Pro for a change of pace. And I do like my Explorer, it has been very kind to me. But I just get tired of the "noise" sometimes. Who am I kidding, you are right and I would never sell my SE.

if your tired of the noise just keep it in auto and tone down some of your setttings to calm it down.
 
If tones are what you are after, I really believe you would love the Sov GT!

As you may know the Sov GT is a known "tone" machine. Two items may register the same on the optional 180 meter but you will hear different tones. Like the explorer the GT is a slow scanning machine. Best of luck in your decision. - Jim


McDave said:
I would love to try a detector where you must rely on sound alone.
 
I use both a Tesoro Compadre and a Golden uMax presently. In no way will I try to say they are better than the Explorer, but I think you might enjoy them more.

Both are beep-and-dig detectors. No screens. You just set your discrimination and dig every solid signal you get.

The Golden, with its simple tone system and notch feature, allows you to cherry pick your targets as much as you wish.

For some reason, Tesoro detectors do an amazing job of discriminating out bottlecaps, giving them a choppy sound, without affecting good targets.

I would also say the Compadre is a better jewelry hunter than the Explorer. While the Explorer goes deeper, the Compadre can hit on small gold jewlery much better. I can't explain why, it just does.

Also, the weight of the Tesoros is considerably lighter than the Explorer. You can swing the Golden and the Compadre all day without any fatigue whatsoever.

Having said all that, thr Minelab Explorer is an excellent detector. Are you sure you are putting in the time necessary to allow you to maximize its capabilities? Consider carefully before selling it as it is one of the most versatile and sophisticated detectors made today.
 
I don't think that the X P Goldmaxx Power is available in the States Dave, but

it is very popular here in the U K, two or three tones, very fast recovery speed

no Bells and Whistles, lightweight,and a very good detector.

I still have my Explorer and my A T Pro but tend to use the X P GP most of

the time.
 
Sovereign is a good change of pace, I used my Sovereign XS for many years without an ID meter and found many old silver and copper coins with it just by the sound before I bought my Quattro. Once you learn the langauge of the Sovereign you can find the deep silver in iron. It definitly has a different language then a Explorer. I still like using it every now and again.

John
 
Check out the Sov and if you end up wanting to see a readout in numbers they sell the addon for it Hope you find something good HH
 
Dave -I remember that you were interested in the Safari about a couple of yrs ago when you were running an Ace 350.
Well, I still love mine and have no real complaints besides the usual : weight, no backlight, and no frequency indicator.
 
I have no words the explorer is a great detector , just go to the explorer posts and its full of silver coins, I stand down on this one
 
I love my explorer, i have learned it pretty good and found a lot of coins with it, one thing that does go across my mind, the explorer is a slow swing machine, which im not saying is a bad thing, because slower is better especially in trash or if the targets are deep, but, sometimes i think about buying a second detector that you can use with a fast swing speed for certain types of hunting, for easy targets that are not hid with trash or overly deep it would be nice to be able to cover more ground quicker and lighter, then come back with the explorer and clean up. Only reason this starts coming to mind is that a lot of the coins i find in the pastures around here where old small schools once stood seem to be no deeper then about 6 inches max, (unless my machine just wont punch any deeper), therfore i could cover the area quicker with say a lighter weight faster recovery type detector. I have hunted with someone else a couple times that swings a whites coinmaster, 179 dollar entry level detector and he can cover 3/4 of the area while i cover the other 1/4. yes i am getting deeper then him and hes getting almost no targets with trash next to them but he is covering a lot of ground plucking all the easy targets, and in some of the areas i hunt, theres still good coins that are easy targets. Maybe i need to swing my explorer faster and then just come back, or just stop thinking about it and concentrate on doing what i have been doing, lol, i need to quit thinking about it and just go detect like usuall like i stated in another thread.
 
Hey Dave I know what you're saying. I had an xlt and got rid of it for the same reason's you stated and the fact you had to whip it around like weed wacker to get top performance. I got a Sov. GT and WOW! what an easy machine to use (once you master the tones). It's deep and user friendly. Get a meter as soon as you can though it will help you understand the tones sooner. Good luck on your decision.
Good luck Gary
 
For Minelab depth but with analog style simple dials/switches, I second the Sovereign GT notion. The tones are the longest, richest, smoothes, "like butter", most detailed in target traits...That I've ever used on a detector. Many guys use it without ever putting a meter on the audio is so descriptive, and you've still got the numerous fanastic Minelab tone alerts. It's like the tone alerts of a Minelab, but with the rich long detailed target traits of the best of the old analog machines.

I'm adding Explorer #4 back to my line up, but the GT isn't going anywhere. On some days I miss that mesmerizing Explorer screen. One big issue for me is I was never a big fan of the 10" Explorer coils, but I'm going to remedy that by putting a 12x10 on it. I know that coil has done wonders for my GT in both giving me a bit more depth and a bit easier (more like laser like) separation, but even the stock 10" Tornado on the GT is a great coil with really good depth and excellent separation far above some stock coils I've had on machines. I've dug 11" coins with that coil. It's just I feel the 12x10 is a step in further up in performance in all respects. That's why my Explorer will be getting one too when I bring one back into my line up down the road here.

The Sovereign don't have much "flash", and is very unassuming in it's looks, but there is a digital wonderland with all kinds of raw power running under that hood.

But as for your Explorer. I for sure wouldn't get rid of it. Why do you think I had 3 over the years, and why do you think #4 is coming here? This way I've got a Minelab for whatever mood the day strikes me. When I want to do a few extra tweaks or am in the mood to day dream and be mesmerized by that fantastic screen, that's when the Explorer will come out. It won't replace my GT, it will compliment it. Both will sit *side by side*, and neither will sit in front of the other. I know, because I've used them both enough to know that they both have equal place in my arsenal, both doing there own "Minelab thing" in their own special unique ways. :thumbup:

One more thing...With the price of used Explorers these days and the cheap aftermarket coils even used, it'd be insane not to add one to somebody's line up of machines. Same deal IMO of the Sovereign. Plenty of older Sovereign models out there for sale used at very good prices, and they are very deep machines almost as deep as the current GT (as has been said by others). Just do yourself a favor and if you get an older model strap the newer version of the 10" coil on it (The Tornado), or better yet a 12x10. Same deal for the Explorer, as I wasn't a big fan of the 10" coils on them in my soil, but have high hopes the 12x10 will unleash more of it's potential, as the 12x10 did for my GT. But, as said, the stock 10" Tornado on the Elite/GT is a very fine coil for stock IMO.

PS- One more perk to the Sovereign. The 180 meters are fantastic in target conductivity detail. Foil (around 60), all the way up to a copper penny (180), gives a super high resolution on targets in that conductivity range. But, be warned, all coins above copper penny read 180. Not a big deal for me, as when I'm old coin hunting if I come upon a deep coin or one shallow but is mixed in trash, I don't care what kind of coin my machine thinks it is 'cuz I'm digging it. Dug too many silvers over the years that a machine said was a penny that turned out to be otherwise (due to minerals, being worn, being on edge, masking etc.). The only coin I really care to ID is zincs, and the 180 meter will do that. Far as nickles, with it's super high low/mid range resolution, never dug so many in my life. Because tabs start about 4 or 5 digits above where the highest nickle reads. That, combined with the unique smooth "warm" "round" sound of a nickle versus most junk, makes digging them almost a sure bet. I've dug a ton at dead spots because of the high resolution VDI and the distinct audio detail that tips me off to "round" targets and such. Foil *usually* reads much lower than the nickle range, but of course there are exceptions.
 
I went back to my roots about 4 years ago and bought a Silver Sabre uMax. After several hunts I went back to using my notch detector. All I can say is you really don't need to buy another machine to try the "beep dig" way of hunting. Just put your machine in single tone, disc out iron only and cover up the display. I think after 2 hours of hunting you'll go back to multi tone with target ID.
 
I have.You might be surprised how quiet, yet still finds the targets at depth... Sure did slow down all those sounds in trashy Parks for me..
 
Elton said:
I have.You might be surprised how quiet, yet still finds the targets at depth... Sure did slow down all those sounds in trashy Parks for me..

Will definately try that Elton .. thanks !
 
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