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Would like to give the smartfind screen a shot...

DFX-Gregg

Well-known member
could a few of you post a pic of your screen showing your best patterns for coinshooting and jewelry/ring recovery.
 
I use a clear screen with only nails and crown caps Xed out.
With ferrous sounds.
This prevents a lot of nulling.
Dig every thing in the upper right 1/4 of the screen.
In low trash dig every thing in the right 1/2 except when the cursser is over lapping the bottom
 
I like the Smart screen better than digital Gregg. Too many numbers to remember for me. I dig everything in the upper right hand corner and whatever sounds good except the lower right hand corner. They are almost always rusted iron. I use Iron mask 15, ferrous tones. You know the rest of the settings. Do your test targets scan, including your gold rings, for a mental map of the screen, and I think you will catch on quickly and prefer the smart screen.
 
and yes, I dig alot of trash and junk but also dig alot of good targets that I would have missed had I used more discrimination or been more selective of what I would dig judging by the digits or cursor position because different conditions in the soil, depth of target, multiple targets in the same area and other things can change those readings. I have been swinging the EXP II since 10-8-03 and have had my SE since 3-7-08. Hope this helps and HH!!
 
I agree with Scott when I am relic hunting, I use conduct sounds and iron mask -15 and if I hear something break thru that sounds interesting then I toggle to the program screen which will stay completely clear.
If I am hunting in places with non-ferrous trash and there is a chance for some old coins I will still stay in iron mask and go by tones.
Mike Moutray uses conduct sounds and -10 iron mask full time.
If I am clad hunting and don't want to fool with hearing all the tabs and zincs, I will use a program kinda like the one I made below in Paint. Notice I use a horizontal approach to discing out what I don't want, I think this allows some more depth on the open areas.
BTW, you can still get very good depth on coins that are high conductors with something like this and you can pick and choose how you disc stuff in and out.
 
Well it looks like I better start digging them lower foil readings also.

mattockman; how big are the rings are they small fine thin ones?

Cliff
 
Greg, for what it's worth, I usually use either AM or everything clear except for crown caps x'ed out. That's in ferrous. Although occasionally I'll start my hunt with a tight screen to reset my ears. The screen is basically: starting with a black screen, learning the main coins with the biggest cursor, and then some added manual editing. The editing is mainly clearing left along the top of the screen about 2/3 and down a 1/3 on the right-hand side. But also with 0,31 x'ed out with the smallest cursor. After I did that just playing around a month or so ago, it really seemed to help my learn the tones better and I don't do it so much any more.

Also, one thing that helped me learn the common locations on the smartfind (SF) screen was to use an overlay with the primary coins marked. I have no issue now, except a bit with nickels, so haven't used that in a while. For me it helped.

I think you'll find seeing how the cursor bounces in the SF screen can be pretty helpful. At least for me it's easier to tell where things are bouncing using the SF screen than in digital. I usually search in smartfind and toggle to digital to confirm what I think i'm seeing on the screen and then dig (or not).

YMMV.
 
n/t
 
1 is thinner than the other, but ya, either one of these rings could still hold a nice stone in it....They can register from foil to penny on a detector.....if you are in a place for potential of rings to be found it may be worth digging it all....as long as it is not a fairground or something like that.....:stars: it would wear you out to fast
 
They were both fairly shallow and was steady cursor, the blue stone and thinner of the 2 was a bit broken up a little on audio but the thicker diamond was solid sounding....photo1010585(photo on left) is the diamond thicker of the 2 rings and the photo 1010587(the photo on right) is the blue stone thinner one....the thinner one cursor is further to the left on screen....compare the two and you will see......photos of rings are below in this post. Both rings read 1 in digital
 
Thanks for the screen pics Mattockman, I hunt in SF always, and have passed a lot of those signals because they were always beaver tails. I haven't got any gold rings yet , now I know why..I will be investigating more of those signals now...Thanks Again .. HH ..Rich
EXII
 
You are talking about using it in Advanced Smart screen instead of digital.....Mine doesn't have the word "find" in it...thats what threw me off...Greg and Blackx say the same thing....so you meant Advanced Smart Screen..........ok....fewwwww......well on my XS the beaver tails are 4 or 5 or 6 in dgital...just like nickels....these are lower than nickels, you would see the whole cursor if it was a nickel or beaver tail....unless its a half of tail or folded maybe...but rings were 1 on digital like foil.....I have seen foil alot lower on smart screen, so maybe stopping at half way showing (cursor) you can still dig small gold and eliminate most foil...
 
pull tabs fall also? Or foil...why does it seem explorer users are not hitting the gold rings as much? I want to start finding a few soon.... It has me pulling out the dfx more and more... I can identify some of the jewelry reaings/tones on the dfx....
 
Sorry about the SF. Thats what they call the smart screen in the EXII owners manual.[Smartfind Screen].
I try to pick up what I can off the forums because I don't know anyone with a detector in my area. I guess I assumed that gold would put the cursor above the line , You cant assume anything in detecting and be 100 percent right.I also use other detectors , so I'm not using the EXII all the time, so I forget some details sometimes, but the screen pics are Really helpful in understanding what a person is trying to get across...Thanks..Rich
EXII
 
Gregg, most thin womens rings that can have diamonds generally hit in the foil area at the bottom of the screen, far below nickels. If you look where mattockman's rings hit and I think they would hit at 1 or 2 conduct on the digital screen. Some thin rings that have more mass and may hit a little farther up. So the foil range up to the nickel range is a good area to dig and perhaps miss most pulltabs. Of course rings can hit in the the area where pulltabs live too but will require more digging pulltabs to make finds. Beach hunters generally dig from foil probably at least up to zinc. If you have some thin rings around, just scan them and if you use conduct sounds you should notice that the tone is lower than nickel. A simple man's wedding ring usually will hit a little higher than what a nickel is. Most nickels I have dug will hit 5 on the digital screen, I think because they are tarnished, most pulltabs in my area hit at 6 and higher but there are some older smaller rectangle pulltabs that are virtually the same tone and conduct of 5, also there are some smaller older pulltabs with rings that hit where nickels come in. I guess this may not hold true for all areas as there are different manufacturers of pulltabs with different alum alloys so it could be different for other areas.
Mattockman is right too about very small foil hits further over on the left side of the screen and those darn 22 casings hit over there too. Other trash and this one gives me the most trouble as I don't beach hunt is small shredded pieces of alum cans, according to their size, they can hit anywhere from the bottom of the screen on up. Weaker signals or mixed signals can also cause a ring to hit in the area on the left side of the screen.
If you have a goodly collection of pulltabs, a good thing to do is using the Explorer, scan them and mark them with tape and paper with your readings to see how the different styles and sizes sound, that way if you are detecting at a particular site you can ignore the most troublesome pulltab(s). This is about digging using strategy, of course nothing beats digging every non-ferrous signal but most of us are limited by time so sometimes it is necessary to play the odds. It's everyone's own call however what they want to dig and what to ignore.
I have sites around here where there are decades of pulltabs, different styles and sizes which makes it almost impossible to dig them all. Something I do is find specific small areas where rings have a higher likelyhood of being lost, like playground swings and other playground equipment and anywhere where people may be throwing balls and stuff. If I find a clad and it is not very trashy, a lot of times I will dig any lower conductor that is really close by, hoping they lost a jewelry piece also.
Hope this helps.
 
Pull tabs on my rig are higher than nickels, haven't you looked at screen yet on tabs?...If you don't have any junk laying around from your hunts...next time save everything and sit down with SE and put it in smart screen and test your items and see where they hit...foil or very tiny objects made from leverite usually hits like the pics.....these are smaller gold rings and are the first I have found that hit that low...but in general they hit higher like nickels or tabs, and even pennys....for some reason these screen shots are a little diff. so I dug it...foil is a bit lower usually...the problem with gold is they can be about anywhere from mid screen to right and high or low....so the best thing you have is sound...gold is usually mono tone....but can be scratchey due to how a ring is made to hold stones...solid bands are good and solid and any ring with stones can be scratchy sort of mono tone....its hard to explain sorry...but I usually have a good idea it is going to be diff. when I hear it...and gold is a possibility
 
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