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wireless headphones
- Thread starter homebre
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sprchng
Well-known member
I use them and with the exception of the short 6 hour battery life they work pretty well for the money. I think TDK makes some in the $130 range if you need to spend more and believe the sound will be better which I don't. I use them on an e-trac especially in the hot Summer months and don't mind going back to corded ones now that it's starting to cool off. They did not sound particularly good on either a F75ltd or a MXT so your results may be different.
team sidewinder
New member
homebre said:
I would be interested how you like those when you get them and how they work out.
Low end third party wireless headphones like the Rapoo's don't have good audio with many detectors for some reason. The audio is somewhat muffled and distorted like its being over driven.
It's still acceptable for jewelry and coin hunts. I'm not sure why they sound bad. I tried an inline volume control with no success.
I suspect that the impedance matching is way off. Maybe one of the people from the detector companies that peruse the forum could chime in.
The TDK's work well, but they suck in other aspects. If you have an average sized noggin, the headband falls forward as you lean down and dig.
The dongle takes 2 AAA batteries and is the size of a small mailbox....OK, so its a bit of an exaggeration, but its about 4 times the size of the Rapoo dongle.
The TDK's shut down after 3 minutes of no audio input so if you have a silent search detector like a Vaquero, they shut off.
I'm not sure why more Detector manufacturers don't integrate wireless as an option in their current lineups. Wired phones are such a pain sometimes.
It's still acceptable for jewelry and coin hunts. I'm not sure why they sound bad. I tried an inline volume control with no success.
I suspect that the impedance matching is way off. Maybe one of the people from the detector companies that peruse the forum could chime in.
The TDK's work well, but they suck in other aspects. If you have an average sized noggin, the headband falls forward as you lean down and dig.
The dongle takes 2 AAA batteries and is the size of a small mailbox....OK, so its a bit of an exaggeration, but its about 4 times the size of the Rapoo dongle.
The TDK's shut down after 3 minutes of no audio input so if you have a silent search detector like a Vaquero, they shut off.
I'm not sure why more Detector manufacturers don't integrate wireless as an option in their current lineups. Wired phones are such a pain sometimes.
azsh07
Member
The TDK's..the AUvio's and most versions of Bluetooth.
There can be an impedance mismatch for sure. On my Teknetics the Auvio worked great but on my Russian Sorex it overdrove the audio. Seemed to be fine on my Etrac.
Now..you can't dismiss all bleutooth actually. They newer versions with the faster transmit times are pretty darn close...they still have a tad of lag but on a Minelab you won't notice it really. I forget what the term if for the faster Bluetooth technology...it escapes me at the moment but they are a lot faster than standard Bluetooth.
Now if you do the faster Bluetooth you have to be sure both the transmitter and the headphones are both the same or it will default to the slower transmit version and you will have lag. Learned that lesson.
All and I mean ALL aftermarket wireless headphones have lag..yes even the Auvio and TDK's just that it is so minimal it is almost impossible to tell...verses the slower Bluetooth...which can easily be 1/4 second or so and you can easily notice that.
Bluetooth is not going to last more than 4 hours on a good day for recharge time.....so either have a spare set or deal with it.
the Auvio's and TDK will last days..but some do not like using AAA's although I do not mind and they fit my head just fine...but if you have a small mellon they may be a bit loose.
Bottom line is to go wire free you will have to sacrifice something or learn to do some small modifying...or deal with short charge times etc.
Just remembered it is Bluetooth APTX for less lag.Look for transmiiters and headphones advertised for watching TV and movies..since lag is a problem for this app and so APTX is used here usually.
APTX transmitter
APTX headphones
Now not saying you have to use these but do your own search for APTX transmitters and headphones.
You can also get an APTX receiver like this one and you plug in your favorite set of wierd headphones. You put the receiver on your belt and the phones plug in. So yes you have wired phones but not to the detector. But you can also use your favorite detector headphones.
APTX receiver
Then again...you could hate it...seems to be a hit and miss with people. Again..with an Explorer or Etrac or any detector that is not a fast response machine like say a Teknetics it would work best. Plus the Explorer lines have a mellow audio anyway..not loud and quick/raspy like Fsiher and Tek.
There can be an impedance mismatch for sure. On my Teknetics the Auvio worked great but on my Russian Sorex it overdrove the audio. Seemed to be fine on my Etrac.
Now..you can't dismiss all bleutooth actually. They newer versions with the faster transmit times are pretty darn close...they still have a tad of lag but on a Minelab you won't notice it really. I forget what the term if for the faster Bluetooth technology...it escapes me at the moment but they are a lot faster than standard Bluetooth.
Now if you do the faster Bluetooth you have to be sure both the transmitter and the headphones are both the same or it will default to the slower transmit version and you will have lag. Learned that lesson.
All and I mean ALL aftermarket wireless headphones have lag..yes even the Auvio and TDK's just that it is so minimal it is almost impossible to tell...verses the slower Bluetooth...which can easily be 1/4 second or so and you can easily notice that.
Bluetooth is not going to last more than 4 hours on a good day for recharge time.....so either have a spare set or deal with it.
the Auvio's and TDK will last days..but some do not like using AAA's although I do not mind and they fit my head just fine...but if you have a small mellon they may be a bit loose.
Bottom line is to go wire free you will have to sacrifice something or learn to do some small modifying...or deal with short charge times etc.
Just remembered it is Bluetooth APTX for less lag.Look for transmiiters and headphones advertised for watching TV and movies..since lag is a problem for this app and so APTX is used here usually.
APTX transmitter
APTX headphones
Now not saying you have to use these but do your own search for APTX transmitters and headphones.
You can also get an APTX receiver like this one and you plug in your favorite set of wierd headphones. You put the receiver on your belt and the phones plug in. So yes you have wired phones but not to the detector. But you can also use your favorite detector headphones.
APTX receiver
Then again...you could hate it...seems to be a hit and miss with people. Again..with an Explorer or Etrac or any detector that is not a fast response machine like say a Teknetics it would work best. Plus the Explorer lines have a mellow audio anyway..not loud and quick/raspy like Fsiher and Tek.
mrwilburino
Member
I've tried four so far:
Two that I tested:
Auvio 383's- sounded good; didn't notice any lag, but that was just sweeping the coil over buried targets. I might get a pair if I could find them.
Harbor Freight- They make a cheap pair that work with a FM transmitter. The pair I tried had some mods. They actually sounded ok, but kind of a pain to use with the transmitter.
Two that I own:
Rapoo 3070's- Minimal lag; nice light design. They sound good on my Deus and my buddy's Etrac, but not good at all on my Omega or my CZ, even with an inline volume control. I've heard others say that they don't sound good on Fisher/Tek machines.
Avantree Saturn's- These are bluetooth transmitter/receiver units that use APTX technology for both functions. One can be used with the detector as the transmitter, the other with any pair of headphones as the receiver. Sound is good. Lag is bad, totally unusable in the field.
Other options:
TDK's- Seem to be the one that everyone is going to since they quit making the Auvios.
Airheadz- Made specifically to use with detectors. $340-$395. Ouch.
Ovan's- Someone posted that they are decent. Last time I checked, they can only be ordered from overseas.
Auvio earbuds- Read a post that said these worked well. Might consider getting a pair.
Two that I tested:
Auvio 383's- sounded good; didn't notice any lag, but that was just sweeping the coil over buried targets. I might get a pair if I could find them.
Harbor Freight- They make a cheap pair that work with a FM transmitter. The pair I tried had some mods. They actually sounded ok, but kind of a pain to use with the transmitter.
Two that I own:
Rapoo 3070's- Minimal lag; nice light design. They sound good on my Deus and my buddy's Etrac, but not good at all on my Omega or my CZ, even with an inline volume control. I've heard others say that they don't sound good on Fisher/Tek machines.
Avantree Saturn's- These are bluetooth transmitter/receiver units that use APTX technology for both functions. One can be used with the detector as the transmitter, the other with any pair of headphones as the receiver. Sound is good. Lag is bad, totally unusable in the field.
Other options:
TDK's- Seem to be the one that everyone is going to since they quit making the Auvios.
Airheadz- Made specifically to use with detectors. $340-$395. Ouch.
Ovan's- Someone posted that they are decent. Last time I checked, they can only be ordered from overseas.
Auvio earbuds- Read a post that said these worked well. Might consider getting a pair.
mrwilburino said:
I tried a set of Rapoo 3070, on my Whites M6, Tek Omega 8000, and Tesoro Cibola they do not sound good at all. The tone quality is bad, not sharp at all, I might just have a bad set. (they sound O.K. for music videos on computer).
Auvio 30-383's, about the best I have tried, they use Kleer technology, the TDK's WR700 use the same technology.
Auvio 33-284's, these are the wireless earbuds, about the same tone quality as the 30-383's, just uncomfortable to wear for long periods of time.
Haven't tried any of the Bluetooth sets, can't comment on those.
Does anyone know if you can sync any 2.4 ghz headphone to a different brand 2.4 ghz transmitter? It would be nice to be able to get a better quality headphone and be able to sync it to the small Auvio transmitter.
azsh07
Member
The one issue I will say with Bluetooth and even APTX ones is the hit and miss with the amount of lag. I have a drawer here with Bluetooth transmitters and headphones etc. Some have horrid lag and a few are very good. Even with some that claim to be APTX people have reported lag even within the same brand. Not sure what goes on.
Bigger challenge is which one is the problem..should be the transmiiter but I have changed just headphones and had improvement.
I actually gave up on wireless for now. Wasted too much money.
Bluetooths major issue for me was no battery time.....although I have some with minimal lag that were APTX...they won't go more than 3 hours.
The CLEAR technology works the best but AUvios aren't made anymore and TDK is expensive etc etc.
No way I am buying Airheadz either...although they probably would have cost me less than what I spent on all the different setups I have now
Bigger challenge is which one is the problem..should be the transmiiter but I have changed just headphones and had improvement.
I actually gave up on wireless for now. Wasted too much money.
Bluetooths major issue for me was no battery time.....although I have some with minimal lag that were APTX...they won't go more than 3 hours.
The CLEAR technology works the best but AUvios aren't made anymore and TDK is expensive etc etc.
No way I am buying Airheadz either...although they probably would have cost me less than what I spent on all the different setups I have now
happycamper08
Member
I have the airheadz and they have a signal lag.
team sidewinder
New member
Guess I will rethink my idea of getting wireless headphones 
Hi all,
I have to agree with the above comments about the Rapoo 3070's. They pretty much describe the loss of sound quality when I use them on either my Fisher F5 or Tesoro Toltec II. The audio is not clear and clean like a bell that everyone is looking for. And yes it takes a little getting used to.
But beyond that, for me, I personally feel I still get the same accuracy of audio target identification as I did when I was using wired headphones. Even while hunting in the tone ID mode with the F5 the difference in tones is still very distinctive.
So what it boils down to for me is: The loss of clear clean sound quality is far outweighed by the convenience of going wireless.
My2cents, HH
I have to agree with the above comments about the Rapoo 3070's. They pretty much describe the loss of sound quality when I use them on either my Fisher F5 or Tesoro Toltec II. The audio is not clear and clean like a bell that everyone is looking for. And yes it takes a little getting used to.
But beyond that, for me, I personally feel I still get the same accuracy of audio target identification as I did when I was using wired headphones. Even while hunting in the tone ID mode with the F5 the difference in tones is still very distinctive.
So what it boils down to for me is: The loss of clear clean sound quality is far outweighed by the convenience of going wireless.
My2cents, HH
team sidewinder
New member
Guess I will rethink my idea of getting wireless headphones
choppadude
Active member
I have used the Auvio 33-283 wireless headphones on both my detectors and absolutely love them. The sound is crisp and clear with no lag. I use reachargables in the headset. I have also used the TDK WR700 and the are nice but still prefer the Auvios. What sucks is the Auvios sold for $29.99 new but are now discontinued and sell for $50 - $100 on eBay now. Luckily I picked up a couple spare sets as would hate to be without a set.
azsh07
Member
choppadude said:
I have an almost brand new pair of Auvio headphones...lost the stupid transmitter day 2. If they will work ith another Auvio transmitter I would sell my headphones for a reasonable price...I can use them. If anyone needs just headphones...although most people break the transmitter first.
By the way the Avios were the best I tried overall!!