Will Fisher contiue the CZ line?

[Weasel_Loader]

Having never owned a Fisher unit, I've lately become interested in trying out a CZ-3D or CZ-70. I love my Explorer SE, but want to try something different. With all the great things I hear about the CZs, why did Fisher decide to kind of "phase" them out? I understand that under the ownership of First Texas has a lot to do with it, but why take away a line of detectors that people have loved for a LONG time? When I first got into the hobby back in the early 90s, the CZ was a hot detector to get and now that I recently got back into the hobby, I see the CZ is still a hot detector to get in this age of DFXs and Explorer SEs/E-tracs.

Now that the Coinstrike and CZ-70 is no longer sold, will the CZ-3D be next? I'd love to see a CZ-75 come out. What do you say?

 

[Dan-Pa.]

Seems like the new Fisher is going the F series route..I can see them keeping the CZ3D and CZ21 water unit but personally see no new CZ models coming out..Heck been wrong before so call Fisher and sort of get the info from the horses mouth...

 

[oneton]

Yes, they are going the f route,but the czs will allways be the better hunter,due to one reason for sure the 2 fre that the old fisher company used on these units,5 and 15..

 

[Mr.Bill]

The CZ series had already been discontinued prior to the sale of the company to First Texas Corp. We all had quite a few of the CZ models left over in stock so they hung around selling for a few years after. The CZ-70 & the CZ-5 lasted the longest. Cost factor, and complex circuitry was it's demise.

The "new" Fisher recently brought back a revised CZ-20, as a CZ-21.

 

[bigolhorns]

The CZ series had already been discontinued prior to the sale of the company to First Texas Corp. We all had quite a few of the CZ models left over in stock so they hung around selling for a few years after. The CZ-70 & the CZ-5 lasted the longest. Cost factor, and complex circuitry was it's demise.

The "new" Fisher recently brought back a revised CZ-20, as a CZ-21.

The CZ-3D is still in production.

 

[Mr.Bill]

I have my doubts that it's directly manufactured by the "new" Fisher, or it's being put together by component's all ready in stock, received when purchase was made.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised that shortly it will be gone. After all it is a very specialized unit, designed for hunting old sites for silver coins.

 

[Weasel_Loader]

I have my doubts that it's directly manufactured by the "new" Fisher, or it's being put together by component's all ready in stock, received when purchase was made.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised that shortly it will be gone. After all it is a very specialized unit, designed for hunting old sites for silver coins.

That seems most logical Bill. I'm sure it won't be long and Fisher will no longer even advertise the CZ-3D. Pretty sad as it seems there are still tons of devoted following out there on the CZ line.

 

[bigolhorns]

I have my doubts that it's directly manufactured by the "new" Fisher, or it's being put together by component's all ready in stock, received when purchase was made.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised that shortly it will be gone. After all it is a very specialized unit, designed for hunting old sites for silver coins.

Nope,it's being made in Mexico. It's no more "very specialized" than the F series detectors, it will hunt anywhere in enhanced mode. All enhanced does is bring some coins that would be in the mid tone range into the high tone range,much like the F75. Flip the switch to salt and you have a CZ-5.

 

[Mr.Bill]

I have been using the 3d since it's introduction, including using prototypes of it. Stating that it will hunt anywhere in the enhanced mode, (Leaving the impression that it would do well), is just plain posting mis-information. Will the detector find coins in newer sites, sure it will, but they will be plenty of aggravation using it there in the enhanced mode, and using the salt mode is not a good option. The biggest aggravation would be the ID'ing of aluminum foil as good silver coin targets. If your happy with your's, in your hunting enviroment, great. I hope it's the next best thing to ice crean for you, but that's not what my post on the 3d were about.



Perhaps you missed reading the old Fisher's advertisement about the 3d. It stated it was designed for sites older than 1950, void of aluminum trash, and using it in later sites was not recommended. Here is what the revised advertisement mentions about this. They removed the part about pre 1950's, and not recommending using it in newer sites.

Specifically designed to find more good metals such as brass, bronze, copper and silver, reporting it as a high-tone, rather than a mid-tone object. The CZ-3D is engineered to provide maximum success on old coins while retaining the best possible ratio of good targets vs. trash targets. In older era sites, where aluminum trash is minimum, the CZ-3D will give exceptional performance on older coins.

 

[Digger]

Apparently Govt. restrictions on the components, and technological "advancements"in the industry, are making analog metered detectors a thing of the past. Unfortunately, the joy of using the analog meter of a CZ series, or the White's 5900/6000 series, is slowly fading away. Like I've said before, give me a Simpson or Triplett any day, as opposed to a Fluke! So much for progress! JMHO HH Randy

 

[jmaryt]

hi!
the old advertising does NOT indicate "aluminum trash" at all!..it states that the detector should be used in sites older than 1950!..of course as everybody knows,"older" pre 1950 sites DO contain a LOT of aluminum trash,HOWEVER this is NOT noted in the ORIGINAL advertising for OBVIOUS reasons

(h,h!)
j.t.

 

[Digger]

http://www.fisherlab.com/hobby/CZ3D.htm


The NEW CZ-3D -Maximized for finding older era coins at older sites!

Take the CZ-3D challenge today and find what you have been missing! Featuring the new enhanced mode for the very best performance hunting older sites. It's that simple. The CZ-3D looks like, and nearly operates like a standard CZ but delivers exceptional performance on old coins. Specifically designed to find more good metals such as brass, bronze, copper and silver, reporting it as a high-tone, rather than a mid-tone object. The CZ-3D is engineered to provide maximum success on old coins while retaining the best possible ratio of good targets vs. trash targets. In older era sites, where aluminum trash is minimum, the CZ-3D will give exceptional performance on older coins. Simply select the 'enhanced mode' with the 'salt/enhanced' switch. No special programming required - just flip the switch and see what you've been missing!


Do a google search for CZ3D and the word Aluminum, and see how many hits you get. HH Randy

 

[jmaryt]

i stand corrected!..i didn't research it enough before my statement was made!..my mistake!..i wanted to get one before,however because every place is loaded with aluminum trash to include MOST public sites that pre date 1950,i had to pass on it!..now i realize that the cz-3d does id foil and pull tabs as a mid tone in advanced mode by users on this forum!..that information is critical i think to successful operation of same,especially in the "old" areas!..would like corroboration of that from others!.i DID read that here,so can any users of the 3d verify it?..thanks!

(h.h!)
j.t.

 

[Digger]

Just wanted to get the record straight.

I've not found many places to get away from aluminum. Seems even the farmers tilling the fields where I like to hunt have a habit of tossing an aluminum can or two, from the tractor. After a few passes with the disc or plow, we have can slaw! And when you hit one of those "coin targets" in the middle of 80 acres, it is disappointing to find a chunk of aluminum can. But in defense of the CZ's, I haven't owned a detector that is perfect in ID'ing aluminum as not being a coin. HH Randy

 

[jmaryt]

that is correct and you never will!..aluminum is too close electrically to a coin,and to this day is VERY difficult for ANY detector to differentiate,however with that said,it still must be a nightmare IF the cz-3d rings 'em up as a high tone!..i live in newengland ,and although we have 350 years or so of history,we also have 350 years of trash in the ground..it would seem that every site you hunt here is loaded with aluminum,OLD OR NEW!...if i could buy one super cheap to try,then i might go for it,but fisher isn't giving them away at 700.00 plus per unit!..

(h.h!)
j.t.