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Will be a new vaquero owner very soon!

Goes4ever

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Made a deal with a forum member here, traded my x70 which I never, ever use, just sits in the corner and collects dust, for his vaquero, which I have been wanting to try for a LONG time. The compadre impresses me so much with its lightning fast speed in iron, hoping the vaquero will treat me right!


I am open to any tips on using it, as far as set up, etc......please share anything that might help me out. I got it mainly for iron rich farm fields, and will prob use it at old farm houses as well. Fill me in!
 
you will find the VAQ very good in Iron , I would use tab mans settings, it will perform well and be deeper than the cmpadry, also nice to have the ground BAL set a bit negative,
 
You will love it. It is a deep hunter. You will find some nice coins deep... KEN
 
thing that stinks is, we are heading into a big cold spell, today might be my last good day! a week from today they say the high will be 29 degrees!!! YUCK!
 
Cold spell. Time to go in a wooded valley, protected from the wind and slow down. I found some old coins that way.
 
In heavy iron, I ground balance neutral, set the disc. a little below the first mark below nickel, sens. at 9 and threshold a slight hum. You will still hit on large pieces of iron but after a while you can kind of tell if it is iron or not. I'll use a screw driver to probe down and feel if it is iron. Also, when I get into the heavy iron I will shorten my swing and slow way down. Give the vaquero time and I am sure you will be quite pleased with its performance in heavy iron.
 
just will not be able to get close to metal fences, posts, etc. like i see the compadre does though. i find that supertuning it is not really worth it. to erratic and falses a lot. i really like mine, works well.
 
Goes4ever said:
thing that stinks is, we are heading into a big cold spell, today might be my last good day! a week from today they say the high will be 29 degrees!!! YUCK!

Not only am I in the cold spell, we have 6" of snow to go with it! North of me they have 12" plus in some areas. Looks like I will be taking the batteries out of the detectors for the season. To dam early this year!
 
When I located the point on the threshold that gave a very slight hum, I put a 'tick' mark there with a super fine point Magic Marker. It's best to always leave it at that point, because your ears will use that point to determine the size and depth of a target. Move the threshold around and it will fool your ears. I always run as much sensitivity that I can without it getting unstable. I mainly hunt with the discrimination at the first line just below nickel. On my detector, that point will just discriminate out a foil cap. Nickels and gold rings still come in hard and I don't have to dig a lot tiny foil targets. Good Luck and happy hunting with your new Vaquero.:thumbup:

tabman
 
Most of my hunting is done in the all metal mode via the pin point button and then I release the button to quickly get into discrimination mode. Vaquero does have a language so training your ears takes a bit of time.
I have switched to the 5x10 wide scan DD coil and it is lighter than stock coil and handles hot soil better and is good in the woods and tight spots unlike the stock coil.
Battery performance is critical to get the best performance out of the Vaquero so check often. Most all of my best finds are with fresh battery's.
Cold weather hunting takes the biggest tole on power so keep your spare battery in a pocket close to your body.
Minas man
 
Excellent detector for sure! You'll be amazed how quickly you will be able to size a target, check the depth, and ID it. Pinpointing is a breeze and incredibly accurate. Post your finds as they come in.
 
They apply to any make or model, but I make sure I adhere to them when I hunt with my Bandido II µMAX.:

1.. Use the least amount of Discrimination you can tolerate. Personally, I never Disc. higher than iron nail rejection, so with my Bandido II µMAX and other ED-120 designs I set it at the minimum position. With models that adjust lower, like using a Vaquero or Eldorado µMAX, I only adjust up to where I reject a couple of iron nails laying on the ground.

2.. Use the highest Sensitivity setting allowable w/o 'noise' or 'instability.'

3.. Adjust for a proper slight audio Threshold hum.

4.. Adjust the Ground Balance for searches in the All Metal mode to be either 'spot-on' of just very slightly positive when lowering the search coil from about 4" to ½". If mainly searching in the Discriminate mode, preferable adjust the Ground Balance using my 'Power Balance' techniques, and on most Tesoro's that would result is a somewhat negative All Metal mode GB setting.

5.. Use the best search coil size you have for the conditions you usually hunt. An example would be the 7" Concentric coil I have mounted on my Bandido II µMAX because most of the time I am searching close to metal structures, from playground equipment to fences and building rubble, and also because I hunt trashier and brushier sites. Smaller coils 'fit' in and around trash and obstacles much better, and if I didn't have the 7" Concentric mounted, I would use the 5¾" Concentric coil. My 8" coil stays in my accessory coil bag for use in more open areas, if needed.

6.. Remember that you are using a 2-filter model that is a slow-sweep/quick-response detector. Don't be fooled by an 'air test' that shows a quick-response and fast-recovery when briskly sweeping a good target past the coil. When searching over mineralized ground, use a slow and methodical sweep speed and remember to overlap generously. If the ground is highly mineralized sand, pea gravel, small rocks, etc., be sure you do not sweep fast as it will impede the performance.

7.. If you don't dance or know music enough to know 'waltz time' (3/4) then learn it so you can 'waltz the coil' in an area for better efficiency and coverage, and so you don't move ahead too quickly. That is, you sweep the search coil from left-to-right, and then back right-to-left over the same direction, then again on that same route left-to-right ..., waltzing One-Two-Three, then advance the search coil no more than half the diameter and repeat .... one-two-three as you sweep the same path. I try to limit my left-to-right sweep coverage to about 30" and no more than 36" when doing any serious site coverage.

8.. Only take about a half-step forward as you advance so the middle of the advancing foot is about in-line with the toe tip of the other foot.

9.. Pause now and then in a brushier or trashier environment to 'scribble' the ground. After making the left-to-right and right-to-left sweeps, kind of 'scribble' the search coil forward, backward, side-to-side on an angle, just to make sure you've had a chance to pull any target hit from a trashy or brushy location .... then slowly advance.

10.. Investigate ALL target hits, be them rock-solid and loud, to weak, to just an 'iffy' tick. Gently scuff aside any surface dirt [size=small](½" to 1" or so)[/size] and re-scan the spot to see if the signal improves.

11.. Use a quality alkaline battery and check the battery test periodically during the day's hunt.

12.. Use a quality headphone.

Have fun, have patience, learn the detector well, and know the strengths and weaknesses.

Monte
 
I love it Monte "Waltz the Coil". I always like reading your posts. But that has to be one of the best I have read. Remind me to never try to follow you. Wont be anything good left in your wake.
 
but it seems even more helpful with our more modern detector designs.

machineman said:
I love it Monte "Waltz the Coil". I always like reading your posts. But that has to be one of the best I have read. Remind me to never try to follow you. Wont be anything good left in your wake.
It's not just me. I have five very good, and successful, detecting buddies who learned to hunt that way. Slow motion methodical sweeps, using patience, and 'scribbling' the search coil as well when it gets brushy and/or very trashy.

Monte
 
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