Why People are selling there Explorers?

[Anonymous]

<img src="/metal/html/cry.gif" border=0 width=40 height=15 alt=":cry"> ....I just read an artical(long post) in the Explorer forum about a guy selling ExII cause it was too difficult to figure out. <STRONG>HUH? I just don't get it! I own the Ex. XS not the Ex.II but not much of a diff. IMO people are making it way to diff. to learn...It is quite simple...I know where silver,quarter,dime penny, IND. penny,nickle hit. Gold can be anywhere and I don't worry about figuring that out. Maybe they try to figure out iffys and dig junk...I don't worry about iffys...I dig constant solid signals and I do fine.Tones to me mean nothing by themselves..I consider display of where the curser is in conjunction with tone. Somebody needs to hold these peoples hands and show them how simple it is...or they are going to sell the best darn detector they ever owned! <img src="/metal/html/cry.gif" border=0 width=40 height=15 alt=":cry"> ..

 

[Anonymous]

Beats me as well. <img src="/metal/html/frown.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="">
Over the years I have owned many detecotors. <img src="/metal/html/wink.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="">
None have been as good as the explorers which I have owned from the day that they came on the market. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="">
My back up is a Tesoro Vaquero which rarely gets a trip out but when I do take it on a dig I cant wait to get the Explorer out again. <img src="/metal/html/tongue.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":b">
With Vaquero it talks to me and I listen but with the Explorer we talk to each other and its with this team work that we find more together. <img src="/metal/html/biggrin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="">
Some of you may know where Iam coming from others will send for the men in their white coats to take me away. <img src="/metal/html/shocked.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":shock"> <img src="/metal/html/shocked.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":shock"> <img src="/metal/html/shocked.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":shock"> <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol"> <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol"> <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">

 

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[Anonymous]

I got my EXP2 about two or three months ago,I was in the same boat. I got so frustraded I couldn't make any sense of this machine.I had called the dealer I got it from to trade it for a DFX,He susgested me to read book from Andy Sabisch, it all came together. I still got a lot to learn about it, but now I'm really hoocked on it. Now I digging up silvers at depht that my XLT can not touch. My word of advice. "Don't give up"

 

[Anonymous]

it was too heavy. If it wasn't for the weight,I would probably still have it. The EX II pulled double duty for me, it found stuff, and it was fun to use.... Best to all, Richardntn

 

[Anonymous]

I bought my Explorer II last year, and for the first several months it was a real bitch trying to get the hang of. Iron sounded "good" to my inexperienced ears (and sometimes it still does even to my more experienced ears). I dug a LOT of empty holes searching for iron trash I thought were coins. It just takes time but things will come together if you are determined and don't give up. Naturally you will be frustrated, just remember what a great machine you have and that when you finally do get it, it will be worth the price you've paid.
What helps is using "ferrous sounds". This will give the iron a low tone unlike the high tone of coins. Also after a while you will recognize a lot of the iron; it isn't as strong and clear as a coin signal nor consistent and it doesn't lock on, it seems to jump around when you go to pinpoint it. You'll realize what is iron just from hearing it 99% of the time. The 1% that fools you is no big deal; if you aren't digging a few iffy signals you are probably missing some good stuff.
But hey you guys know this stuff. I guess the guys who sold their Explorers got tired of the learning curve. I really don't blame them, but boy are they missing out on a hell of a machine now. I had thoughts of selling mine and just buying an easy to use machine, but I'm sure glad I didn't do that now!
And some folks say the Explorer is only as hard as you make it. To some extent that is true, in that you can adjust the settings to make it basically turn on and go if you want to (more experienced users usually don't, but that's another story). But you still have to learn how your machine responds. The Explorer is truly on a plane of its own and there is that learning curve no matter your settings. You can practice in a test garden and that is very worthwhile, especially if you have some trash near the goodies to practice with (or if you put trash near and on the goodies - this is important because you can mask the goodies fairly easily).
Man am I rambling or what.

 

[Anonymous]

I only have mine about 6 weeks or so... When I ordered the ExpII I also ordered the swingy thingy.. just in case. Funny thing is, the only time I need to use it is at the beach. I think it's because there's friction between the coil and the sand and the coil drags a lot. When digging lawns / grassy areas, scrubbing the grass with the coil is pretty easy; most of the weight is on the coil so it's easy on my arm.
I've used the bungee cord about a dozen times and it really works well. You could swing the Exp all day with it.

 

[Anonymous]

I'am with you Ed,I know I don't do alot of posting but I read and practice alot of these posts here on this forum to improve myself. I went through the learning curve couple years back,but while digging one of those iron sounds,dug deep,pulled out chunk of iron kettle of some sort,half rusted away,figured that was it?Then I dug in there,you know the curiosity thing,there was a few items that chunk of iron masked that made my learning curve alot easier to deal with!Thanks to you people posting helped alot on the curve for me!So I'am very careful what I mask-out if anything.The classroom is very informative here! My Explorer is my #1 detector.HH,To all,Keep it simple and fun!

 

[Anonymous]

I got mine about 14 months ago. I told the dealer that Depth was my number one priority and he told me that this was the machine for me. IT HAS NEVER EVER FOUND ANY COIN DEEPER THAN 7 INCHES. I have been told many many times that I am the exception, and that most people find silver dimes @ 10 inches deep in the first week of using the thing. This thing couldnt find a railroad spike that deep!
So If depth is what your after, and this machine performs in your hands as it has in mine, I can understand why you might want to trade it for a couple of devining rods! my theory is that for whatever reason, some of the explorers in certain user's hands perform far better than others. You'd think that after all my time and money minelab would rather just replace the unit rather than having me continuously bad mouth their product, but they just keep saying there's nothing wrong with the unit, it just takes practice, keep swinging it. Maby that is another reason someone might swich brands.

 

[mattockman]

n/t

 

[Anonymous]

If you care to converse with me thru email, I can share my setups and advise to get more out of your machine,
Steve(MS)

 

[Anonymous]

The Explorer 2 with factory presets works great. Turn & go. Just how hard is that??!!!!!
Nedlessto say-The EX2 do will much more. ANY detector-ANY model detector takes about 40 hours to learn what it really doing. The amount of controls on any detector is not an indication of the difficulty of operating the the unit.

The only down side to the EX2 is, for some, the weight.

Useing ANY detector is kind of like learning to drive. Take a short drive if you have forgotten that there are different kinds of drivers out there.

 

[hunter1]

Steve(MS) I didn't see your e-mail so if you post how to set your machine up & settings I would be happy give it a try so if you get totyping we all are ready to see your secrects:?

 

[Steve(MS)]

Hi Hunter1,
I was more or less addressing that to Todd but I don't mind helping anyone else either. As far as calling what I've learned secrets, I would not call it that. Metal detecting I feel is more about strategies and hunting technics than about the machine. Having said that, the Explorer is a fine machine to own and has many adjustments that one can use to his advantage. Many use standard settings and do well with them so I think "what ain't broke don't need fixin". Some main settings that I use most of the time is different to what others use on the forum. What works for me may not be a good choice for others however if someone is not content with what others are using may would like to try how I've got my machine setup. I am not saying it is the best way to set it up but it is somewhat different from what I read here. I would have to go in to detail that others may think either boring or wrong as to why I use those settings. So if that is the case, I would prefer to allow someone who is interested to converse with me thru email. I will give my email address. HH to all,
stevedp@bellsouth.net

 

[Waterdog]

It took me a while to learn the Explorer also. I started like the guy I bought it from told me. Take it to a place and learn in the sand. Pinpointing was a real ISSUE with me at first. After learning what needed to be learned to get me out of the sand was just practice. I am still trying to get better at this machine, and every time I take Her out she lets me in on a few new things. Like they have aways told me. " The machine is only as good as it's Operator"
I have found things where I have seen other metal detectorist moments ago. They just look at me and say "How did I miss that I was just over there " I just stuff it into my pouch and smile.
I would not sell/trade my Minelabs for any other machine
HH
:cool

 

[Bill W.]

Steve,

I think you're on the right track. Mainly, that being you use what works for you. Alot of people get caught up in try to use someone elses setting for various reasons. Sometimes that works sometimes it doesn't. You hit the nail on the head with "Metal detecting I feel is more about strategies and hunting technics than about the machine." Alot of the time when I am out detecting I will adjust my hunting approach if I am not finding much. My strategy may be something as simple as changing coils. Or it may be digging some deep signals that are barely hitting to see how deep signals are IDing at a site. People that learn to adjust to a site end up being excellent metal detectorist if they pay attention to when to adjust and why.

-Bill

 

[Cody]

I agree with you on this one just about 100%. It kind of amazes me when I read a post that tells us to always set the machine the same and never change it. I know right out of the gate that the user does not understand how to take advantage of the technology. I change settings at a site as often as I need to depending on the soil matrix and other factors. I guess if one always hunts a specific salt water beach this may be one example where few changes are needed but once we learn what the setting do then we really start to do much better and it does pay off.

Very good suggestion!

 

[UKCraig]

Still getting to grips with mine cracking machine. We use a different set up in the UK euther nails and nothing else cut out so it is just a little trangle in the top left. Or what I use is iron mask with one notch up so that there is only a thin bar on the left hand side. That is -15 I think. I am still getting used to the tones but will not give up on the machine.
A lot of guys over here are now goping for the XP Goldmax they are getting good results with it...... Yet again a machine that needs time to understand.

 

[Steve(MS)]

when things are not working out well, Cody, I would like to converse a little with you about detecting, if you would send me your email address.
Steve(MS)

 

[Larry--IndianaHVAC]

You are right in saying they are going to sell the best machine on the market! The biggest problem is, is that people just don't want to take the time to learn what the Ex is saying!! THe machine is a talker and you gotta learn the talk. Another problem I have found with newbies is that they just sweep to damn fast. You tell a person to slow down and they just don't do it. What they think is slow to them is definitely fast to a veteran user of the Ex. If every person who wants to sell their Ex could just hunt with an advanced user of the Ex, their mind could be changed in a day. I really think guys get tired of the machine when they get in heavy trash areas. They just need to learn the difference between a trash signal and the goodies. Also, they need to take the time and make a coin program for those super trashy areas. One more thing, invest in a small 5 inch coil because that stock 10 just ain't gonna cut it in the trash.