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Why is iron discriminated out as the default setting in every mode?

pine3874

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Can someone please explain why the factory preset for every mode has iron discriminated out? At least that's what it shows in the manual on page 63.
 
pine3874 said:
Can someone please explain why the factory preset for every mode has iron discriminated out? At least that's what it shows in the manual on page 63.
. Why not :) On all the modes that I use, I go in and open up all the discrimination so I can hear how much iron is in the ground. I would assume to make it easier for someone who's never used a Minelab to just turn it on and start hunting without a lot of noise in the background.
 
I suspect it's because most people don't want to dig iron.
And they think if they don't hear it, they won't dig it.

However, probably like most experienced detectorists, I find the best way to avoid iron it to hear iron.
It's just so much easier to ID the edge falsing from iron, especially in damp ground.

To each his own, I guess...
:)
mike
 
If you want to hear iron, just hit the horseshoe (all metal) button. And if you want to go back to disc hit it again. I do this a lot just to hear if there's iron nearby.
 
Presets/defaults are designed to make the machine run smoothy and be easier to learn. Why do they have diamond rings as high conductors, or threshold at 0 for beach mode, or even single freqs if all is run in multi? You can set up AM patterns..... but these presets are a starting point.
 
I would concur that it must be for ease of use for the beginner. Those of us who detect a lot know it’s best to hear it to have a clearer picture of what your conditions are but for many,that level of hunting is a ways away,so they preset the disc like that so as to not discourage first time users/noobs. Everyone remember when they were a noob? Think about how far you’ve come...WANTING to hear iron! Ridiculous huh?:)
 
I NEED to hear the iron to locate habitation on sites. I have always been a big fan of a open machine and listening to the iron BUT.... I was hunting a iron riddled site with the Nox other day both ways... I found that when I knew where the iron was I could cut it off and pick out non ferrous better in the iron.. WHY ? The Nox was alerting of targets so heavily masked that when I had the iron cut on I thought it was the edge of the iron falsing... My buddy squrriel1 runs it with iron off too because he says targets can be missed with it on. I'm pretty savy on the iron game and this machine did really well in it. So my suggestion or warning is try it both ways after the iron is located...
 
The Equinox does very well with the iron disc'ed out. I prefer to listen to the iron as well but, with this machine, I'm starting to change that. Other machine's always sound "strangled" when employing discrimination. Not so with the Equinox.

Dean
 
calabash digger said:
I NEED to hear the iron to locate habitation on sites. I have always been a big fan of a open machine and listening to the iron BUT.... I was hunting a iron riddled site with the Nox other day both ways... I found that when I knew where the iron was I could cut it off and pick out non ferrous better in the iron.. WHY ? The Nox was alerting of targets so heavily masked that when I had the iron cut on I thought it was the edge of the iron falsing... My buddy squrriel1 runs it with iron off too because he says targets can be missed with it on. I'm pretty savy on the iron game and this machine did really well in it. So my suggestion or warning is try it both ways after the iron is located...
Exactly how I feel...and I ran the T2 listening to iron for 10s of 1000s of hours.
 
dbado1 said:
The Equinox does very well with the iron disc'ed out. I prefer to listen to the iron as well but, with this machine, I'm starting to change that. Other machine's always sound "strangled" when employing discrimination. Not so with the Equinox.

Dean

Dean

I had this exact discussion with Digger the other day, so I'm glad to here someone else is coming to the same conclusion. I have the volume turned way down when I do hunt in all metal and that has made a huge improvement. what your thought on threshold?
Laplander
 
trojdor said:
I suspect it's because most people don't want to dig iron.
And they think if they don't hear it, they won't dig it.

However, probably like most experienced detectorists, I find the best way to avoid iron it to hear iron.
It's just so much easier to ID the edge falsing from iron, especially in damp ground.

To each his own, I guess...
:)
mike

Great point. I was hunting last weekend (with iron disc'd out) and after digging a couple of square nails - I wondered if I should open the iron up...
But, signal overload gets to me (And I only dug those 2 nails - learning the sounds better.)

I might play with running threshold though, which does a bit of the same thing if you listen to the nulling. I just wonder if I will get tired of hearing the threshold...
 
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