Why does Minelab?

[qicpic]

Why are the target numbers on a Minelab about half of other detectors? I just dont get it, you learn one for years then you get a Minelab and the values are just about half?
any ideas?
thanks and HH

 

[Bell-Two]

Why are the target numbers on a Minelab about half of other detectors? I just dont get it, you learn one for years then you get a Minelab and the values are just about half?
any ideas?
thanks and HH

The numbers are just symbolic, the manufacturers decide that this specific signal under the criteria they select for it will represent a dime, or quarter or piece of trash. It could be 26, 44, or 78 doesn't really matter. As William Shakespeare wrote.

What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;

Or in this case a number would be just as much a silver!

 

[Ken in Georgia]

Great Answer !!!!!

 

[Digger]

Why are the target numbers on a Minelab about half of other detectors? I just dont get it, you learn one for years then you get a Minelab and the values are just about half?
any ideas?

The CTX 3030 has 1750 possible "TID numbers" available for target identification. That 1750 number is reached by multiplying the 35 possible Ferrous numbers X the 50 possible Conductive numbers. 01/01, 01/02, 01/03, 01/04-----through---------35/47, 35/48, 35/49, 35/50. Could you give us an example of a detector with more TID numbers? HH Randy

 

[bcoop]

This question could also be worded in reverse by being an avid Minelab user then switching to another brand.

The symbolic numbers, VID or TID is just simply how the manufacterer sets up the machine. However low or high specific target ID numbers are, you adapt to it rather quickly if you dig enough targets.

BCOOP

 

[ryanchappell]

The numbers are just symbolic, the manufacturers decide that this specific signal under the criteria they select for it will represent a dime, or quarter or piece of trash. It could be 26, 44, or 78 doesn't really matter. As William Shakespeare wrote.

What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;

Or in this case a number would be just as much a silver!

As Spinal Tap would say, densely, "Mine goes to 11." or in this case "Minelab goes to 50" or the Whites guy would say, "No mine is better because it goes to 99!" LOL!

(Paraphrase from the movie Self absorbed band member: "Most amps go to 10, but we had one specially made that goes to 11" Interviewer: "Couldn't I just take the knob and put an 11 where the 10 is and it would be the same thing." Band member looks at him dumb-fuddled and says, "But mine goes to 11.")

 

[TheMarshall]

Why are the target numbers on a Minelab about half of other detectors? I just don't get it, you learn one for years then you get a Minelab and the values are just about half?
any ideas?
thanks and HH

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Hello 'qp'

Here is a brief, simple answer to your sensible question:-

(1) The minelab numbering is 'scaled down' only in its presentation to you, for ease of 'relative' reference.

(2) Why ask for higher numerical numbers for such an IMPRECISE measurement?

(3) How precise and repeatably accurate can you sweep as you detect.....speed....height above target...etc.?

Imagine detector Z reporting on a copper at 7 inches......75.28......77.41........69.35 etc at each sweep.

Now a Minelab over the same coin.......Fe12-Con 37........Fe12-Con38.......Fe11-Con35

There is less 'apparent' variations in the Minelab numbering system......but it's all relative.

Why ask for greater 'imaginary' accuracy when in reality it isn't of any consequence?

Minelab's basic internal working VDI resolution is one of the best, but they don't need to confuse the detectorist with numbers like 207.4512 for a penny.

Technically, what you see, depends how many 'bits' are assigned to the digital numbering that feed the info to you via the screen.

Remember, Minelab present a positional screen matrix also for the target's ID. Crude but sufficient for the job.....

I hope that brief reply is of some help.......TheMarshall

p.s. Minelab lead, for other to follow.....not vice-versa

 

[TheMarshall]

As William Shakespeare wrote.

What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;​

Or in this case a number would be just as much a silver!

 

[ryanchappell]

Imagine detector Z reporting on a copper at 7 inches......75.28......77.41........69.35 etc at each sweep.

Now a Minelab over the same coin.......Fe12-Con 37........Fe12-Con38.......Fe11-Con35

There is less 'apparent' variations in the Minelab numbering system......but it's all relative.

Why ask for greater 'imaginary' accuracy when in reality it isn't of any consequence?

Minelab's basic internal working VDI resolution is one of the best, but they don't need to confuse the detectorist with numbers like 207.4512 for a penny.

Technically, what you see, depends how many 'bits' are assigned to the digital numbering that feed the info to you via the screen.

Nice explanation! It would be nice if there was some standardized scale where a mint 1982 US penny air tested always read CO 42, and a mint1999 US Quarter read 47, a 1942 mint Merc 44, etc, on every detector. You could press a button just like on a scale switching between grains, grams, and ozs, but of course it would have to have a warped scale that each manufacturer would have to tweak for each model. And a lot of us would just want to see the real absolute reading from our detector.