Why did Whites decide to split the MXT Pro in half and....

[Ronk]

make 2 versions? One called the M6 and the other MX5. What was the reasoning? The lower cost MX5 has more features and a backlight.If they would of made one detector using both models rolled in to one I guess it would just be and MXT Pro minus the Prospecting and relic mode.If the MX5 had a track lock that make it even better.If they put both the M6 and MX5 in one machine It would probably still be cheaper than the MXT Pro.What's Your thought on it?

RonK

 

[Monte]

Why did Whites decide to split the MXT Pro in half and .... make 2 versions?

They didn't. The MXT Pro did get a new name change ... only a name change and not any electronics change ... to be called the MXT All-Pro. The only physical change was eliminating the 12" coil or 950 coil and going with the 10" D2 Double-D coil. That one, for the MXT All-Pro, sports a noticeable orange-and-white decal naming it the All Pro.

The MXT Pro or renamed MXT All-Pro was never split into anything.

One called the M6 and the other MX5. What was the reasoning?

Let's start with the M6 as it has been around a lot longer than the MXT Pro as it was an off-shoot of the original MXT. So, really, let's start with the first of the MXT 'series,' the original MXT.

That model was a first from White's, providing us with a 3-filter detector, a very quick automated Ground Balance that provided the option to Auto-Trac

 

[Ronk]

Well Monte you certainly explained it all and I appreciate your comment AND opinion! It's a good thing we don't have to pay for opinions..At least Per word! Ha!
Even though I haven't had a chance to try the MX5 or M6 yet I still like the Knobs and switches and the Track Lock of the M6.I think a person has better fine tuning for the disc on the M6.To me a back light isn't that big of a deal. And besides if I'm out after dark where I live the chiggers and mosquitos are too looking for victims! I also like the Metal case of the M6 and the location of the HeadPhone jack just like your former Classic 3SL which I still have and use.
To Me the M6 has just the features that I need and I also like the icons at the bottom of the screen and the confidence bars. I wonder on the MX5 if the notch on each side of the nickle was notched out how much effect on the nickle it would have.Would nickles still have a full audio or is there a chance the it could be clipped a little?

RonK

 

[Monte]

Well Monte you certainly explained it all and I appreciate your comment AND opinion!

I tried, and 'Thank You.'

It's a good thing we don't have to pay for opinions.. At least Per word! Ha!

My bad habit nature, I guess. Sorry.

Even though I haven't had a chance to try the MX5 or M6 yet I still like the Knobs and switches and the Track Lock of the M6.I think a person has better fine tuning for the disc on the M6.

As a rule, I also prefer knobs and toggles, and I do like the Track-Lock, also. However, these are modern times and a lot of the "electronic trend" is towards touchpads, etc. Many people, especially those who are younger and newer o the hobby also like the newer or more modern designs of the MX5 to the M6 and MXT All-Pro controls.

To me a back light isn't that big of a deal. And besides if I'm out after dark where I live the chiggers and mosquitos are too looking for victims!

I DO make use of the backlight, especially when hunting some urban locations (in good neighborhoods) after dark, but especially in most of my favorite places (ghost towns, homesteads, encampment sites and so on) during the hot summer months when I hunt after dark when it is more comfortable. A few places get buggy, but most are no problem.

I also like the Metal case of the M6 and the location of the HeadPhone jack just like your former Classic 3SL which I still have and use.

I, too, like the metal housings White's uses, an I wish every detector had the headphone jack at the rear of the upper rod/arm cup area.

To Me the M6 has just the features that I need and I also like the icons at the bottom of the screen and the confidence bars.

The M6 has been overlooked by many shoppers, often even swayed up-line by some dealers when the M6 is really all the detector they would need.

I wonder on the MX5 if the notch on each side of the nickle was notched out how much effect on the nickle it would have. Would nickles still have a full audio or is there a chance the it could be clipped a little?

First, let me make it clear to readers that I am NOT a fan of Notch Discrimination. I very, very seldom use more rejection than only an iron nail on the surface. At times, often really, I use a Zero Disc. setting and rely on the audio response with the 2-Tone (Iron and Non-Iron tones) of the MX5 and MXT All-Pro.

Second, just as a remainder to some readers not that familiar with Target ID/VDI read-out and the effects of things like ground conditions, target depth, and target masking, .... A coin is most likely to produce a very close to accurate Target ID when it is worked flat-to-the-coil, and within a close proximity to the coil (such as 2"-4"), and if there is no ground or target condition that might influence the reading. If a target is positioned at an odd angle, or if it is too deep, or if the ground mineral conditions are more challenging, or if the desired target is too close to some offending metal object that could mask the anticipated response, then the TID is likely to be inaccurate, and that also means a segmented Discrimination system will have difficulty trying to isolate only one particular target.

Third, however, is that under favorable conditions, the MX5 can do a reasonably good job of notch-accepting a common US 5

 

[Ronk]

Thanks for the reply Monte! I am Not a notch fan either.I only asked because since the MX5 has segments instead of a variable disc control I thought that notching on both sides of the nickle that it would make the window smaller for the nicklel and not have a full response.So are you saying that the window would not be affected on the nickle at all? I know that a variable disc control you Can change how much response you want for a given target and I realize that still depends on conditions too.
I guess that's one reason I prefer a variable disc control because I feel I have more control of targets rejected OR accepted. That's one reason I still love my Modified C3SL. I have full control of every function Plus KNOBS and SWITCHES!!! Does the M6 have the same All metal accept at zero disc just like the Classic 3SL? I don't remember reading about that feature. I have to see if I can find the closest Whites dealer to me so I can try both the M6 and MX5. I DO want to get me an MXT Pro one day! Like you,I've always been a Whites fan.

 

[Monte]

Thanks for the reply Monte! I am Not a notch fan either. I only asked because since the MX5 has segments instead of a variable disc control I thought that notching on both sides of the nickle that it would make the window smaller for the nicklel and not have a full response. So are you saying that the window would not be affected on the nickle at all?

If you only accept one segment, let's say the '15' or the'20' segment, then you would lose some performance as it is on he verge of the break-point for the 5

 

[shortribs]

I have an M5 and like it as much or more for notch feature as I thought the MXT was a too wide a notch for it.The M5 has a tighter notch (5) digits and I noticed that on certain nickel the 5 digit would cut off some nickels so I notched in another (20-25) and that was better. I cannot get mine to do the 8 tone thing but I dont use that feature,just one tone. I'm not sure of the depth on the M5 over the MXT as to get deep I push the SENS to max and get too much chatter to hit the deeper coins,so a trade off. I was amazed at the BETTER see thru of the M5 as I think its a tighter see-thru than most as whites always had that weakness. as with others too. I'm gonna try a smaller head but wonder Monte what depth loss I might see. shortribs (sw mo) My ground is about a 7 of 10 for hot ground .