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Why Analog??
- Thread starter landman
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downeaster
New member
WHAT'S DIGITAL?
We might dazzle you with the in-the-field performance of our good ol' analog units, but why would we reveal any "secrets?"landman said:
Okay, so what we would do is Ooooh and Aaaah at whatever "out-of-space", super-scientific digital unit you would have shown up with, and listen to all the wild and wacky sounds it makes and dazzling visual stuff ... then proceed to hunt along side you and in the end we'd dazzle you with the results.landman said:
The "glorious hidden knowledge" we'd share about a good analog detector is simply this: They WORK!!
The new digital White's Prizm 6T is a really decent detector with the 'Shooter' coil attached, but still doesn't quite match the performance I get from a favorite of mine, the modified IDX Pro.
The new digital Vision is quite impressive in many ways, but I am not quick to encourage a good friend to part with her XLT (Analog/Digital), and certainly not going to give up my gratifying XL Pro.
Just some thoughts from an analog guy.
Monte
...........WELL.........to me digital means that all is automated.......no controls for that special touch like a stick shift in a Ford Mustang Mach One instead of the automatic transmision..........I like to be able to control the various functions of the detector not just to let the computer do it........also to me I can tell by the intensity of the target if it is shallow or deep............on most of the digital detectors you cannot do this!!......also I like the old Analog meter over the digital meter............A lot of this is just me and my preferences............I started with a Garrett Sidewinder BFO............which was an all metal detector although it sort of discriminated by nulling on old iron..................so all of this new stuff is basically all bells and whistles as far as I'm concerned!!..................LOL............Joe
I suppose the human body an perception is an analog,for feel,vision,hearing etc. etc. for input an control an not just a 0or 1,binary strings.
why is it that digital circuits have an additional part count in circuitry for Digital to Analog conversion to give a human operator perception of what is happening an control.
view a meter,hear a tone,adjust a control pot. Digital just seems to add an extra rung in the ladder,another hurdle to jump,addition complexity.
For addition accuracy because of the refinement in math with numbers an efficient use, an the components to deal with it, sure all good?digital must be it.!
nature communicates to us in a Analog way an we are Happy?so be it our electonics !
just my 2cents worth of analog input to digital medium to reply.
why is it that digital circuits have an additional part count in circuitry for Digital to Analog conversion to give a human operator perception of what is happening an control.
view a meter,hear a tone,adjust a control pot. Digital just seems to add an extra rung in the ladder,another hurdle to jump,addition complexity.
For addition accuracy because of the refinement in math with numbers an efficient use, an the components to deal with it, sure all good?digital must be it.!
nature communicates to us in a Analog way an we are Happy?so be it our electonics !
just my 2cents worth of analog input to digital medium to reply.
Willee - Texas
Well-known member
So you would rather have the old choke system on your car and control all things like fuel ratio mixture, spark advance, oxygen sensing, no cruse control and other such computer controlled "adjustments"?
Nothing wrong with that I guess.
To each his own.
I used analog for years cause I was too poor to afford the new Minelab stuff.
Still got my old Metrotech and it still works as good (or as badly) as it ever did.
Nothing wrong with that I guess.
To each his own.
I used analog for years cause I was too poor to afford the new Minelab stuff.
Still got my old Metrotech and it still works as good (or as badly) as it ever did.
Willee - Texas
Well-known member
Sorry Tinfoil, but your statement is not true.
I am sure you have invested many hours learning how your machine reacts to various targets and that gives you a BIG edge over anyone else not so experienced. Your 6000XLPRO will work as good today as it did the day it was made but better and more advanced detectors are now available.
I can select a stock program on an Explorer II or SE or just turn on a Sovereign and work from the salt water beach sand right out to my knees in the surf with out touching the settings and still find deep objects (with almost no falsing or chatter) ... I seriously doubt the 6000XLPRO would even detect a coin 1" deep in the sand in the saltwater surf.
Also in highly mineralized soil (such is found in Williamsport, PA.) most detectors like yours will be lucky to detect a fresh buried quarter at 3 inches. I know cause I was there a few years back with five different machines and the Minelab Explorer was the only detector I had with me that would get any depth. Tesoros, Fishers, and White's could not perform in that soil.
There are just two examples of how technology has advanced (improved) metal detectors since the 6000XLPRO was designed and built.
Just about any of the new microprocessor controlled digital detectors out now will outperform it in just about every category.
(including weight and balance)
Serious hunters and all the pros use the latest and greatest top of the line detectors available today.
Do they know something you dont or is it the other way around?
I am sure you have invested many hours learning how your machine reacts to various targets and that gives you a BIG edge over anyone else not so experienced. Your 6000XLPRO will work as good today as it did the day it was made but better and more advanced detectors are now available.
I can select a stock program on an Explorer II or SE or just turn on a Sovereign and work from the salt water beach sand right out to my knees in the surf with out touching the settings and still find deep objects (with almost no falsing or chatter) ... I seriously doubt the 6000XLPRO would even detect a coin 1" deep in the sand in the saltwater surf.
Also in highly mineralized soil (such is found in Williamsport, PA.) most detectors like yours will be lucky to detect a fresh buried quarter at 3 inches. I know cause I was there a few years back with five different machines and the Minelab Explorer was the only detector I had with me that would get any depth. Tesoros, Fishers, and White's could not perform in that soil.
There are just two examples of how technology has advanced (improved) metal detectors since the 6000XLPRO was designed and built.
Just about any of the new microprocessor controlled digital detectors out now will outperform it in just about every category.
(including weight and balance)
Serious hunters and all the pros use the latest and greatest top of the line detectors available today.
Do they know something you dont or is it the other way around?
Since you don't have a 6000XLPRO. Mine has 4 tones in all of the hunting modes (4)). How would you know how one works??????? Now I do have 2 golden MM's, Sidewinder MM. Shadow X5, CZ70, CZ3D, ID Edge, CZ20, Excall, MXT, ACE 250, Oh lets not forget the Minelabs. Used to have a XS and a Exp, ll. A exterra 70, A SE, Safari, and a GT. Also 90% of the coils to go with them. I know how each and every one hunts right down to a Nat's Ass. I hunt 3 and 4 days a week and been hunting going on 23 years. I am mostly a jewelry hunter but, I Do hunt the dirt and Relic hunt when I am not water hunting. You sure are entitled to your opinion though. Maybe I should have said exclude, the Salt water beach hunting as I have not had it on my Black sand salt water beach yet. I will correct that though. Now back to Lurking and hunting. : : HH Jerry aka Tinfoil
: : HH Jerry aka TinfoilI like Analog for the simplicity. I have used a White's XLT in the past. I think I spent more time adjusting than I did detecting. I'm not claiming that the XLT needs to be adjusted frequently. I am just anal about certain things. I just keep thinking that one more adjustment will get me that extra depth. With the XL Pro & the IDX Pro I turn the knobs as far as the stability lets me and I am done adjusting for the hunt. Quick, Simple, and Powerful. I do swing the Prizm 6T ( a digital machine ) from time to time. In fact the simplicity of that unit makes me admire it every time I use it.
silversmith
New member
No such thing as an "analog" metal detector. All use digital :"Cmos IC" technology now. Only thing Analog for years is the read out (Meter) or display (Digital). Years ago (60's 70's) discreet bi-poler transistors were used with BFO's and TR's. I guess they were analog. And that's my story and I'm sticking to it! 
Butch in Colorado
New member
Sometimes vinal just sounds better....
The XL Pro is simply a good machine that performs very well. I'm never selling my XL pro but I do have a 5900 that is looking for a new home.
The XL Pro is simply a good machine that performs very well. I'm never selling my XL pro but I do have a 5900 that is looking for a new home.
PennyFinder
New member
Nice try there, I'm on to you, I see what your doing! Well sir,I'll never part with my XL PRO.You'll have to pry my Whites XL PRO from my cold dead hands! The 5th Amendment clearly states We the peolple have a right to bear Analog!
Simplicity is efficiency.
PennyFinder
Simplicity is efficiency.
PennyFinder
I think much of it has to do with a feeling of "returning to basics".
I have a DFX and an XLT that I feel I do very well with. But I find that I do enjoy hunting with the XL Pro, too.
I also own guns, but hunt with a bow. I imagine for similar reasons.
The fact that you are asking leads me to believe you feel the draw, too...
I have a DFX and an XLT that I feel I do very well with. But I find that I do enjoy hunting with the XL Pro, too.
I also own guns, but hunt with a bow. I imagine for similar reasons.
The fact that you are asking leads me to believe you feel the draw, too...
david bull
Well-known member
Sorry;no black sand in Tennesse.I tried a DFX for three months and got tired of watching bouncing vdi's.Went back to my Xl-Pro and so far this year I have found 14 gold & 23 silver rings along with various other jewelry not to mention the silver coins.Maybe if move closer to the ocean I'll consider a digital.DBULL