tucker1931
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Now all I gotta do is figure out how to use it, AND FAST, the grounds getting ready to freeze here.
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WHOOPEE...BOUGHT AN ACE 250 TODAY
- Thread starter tucker1931
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[size=small]...Welcome, welcome, but slow down a bit! Take the pressure off. Whatever is lying there will be lying there at the thaw. Pushing yourself and your detector to find T-R-E-A-S-U-R-E NOW will create unrealistic expectations and proabably leave you wanting.
The Ace is a very sensitive instrument and that is the biggest bug-a-boo for the beginner. Newbies want to find really old, really valuable stuff, right away - so they crank up that SENS, as if that will "draw in" the goodies. The detector reacts to this by falsing and acting weird in ways the newcomer doesnt understand, so they get frustrated. As good as it is, it has limits.
Goodies are only where you find them. So FIRST, take your detector to where goodies exist. "Know, Before You Go," just where you are taking your instrument. Unless you have available a known virgin site a hundred and fity years old, I'd suggest local schools, parks and playgrounds. Why? Because you have known targets, known trash and most targets will be fairly shallow.
This allows your detector to teach you target response rather than you shaking it in rage at not finding anything you want. And lest you think there is nothing to be found in such places, look again at some of the things the folks here turn up in such search areas.
Wait a minute. Did I say trash back there? Yessir. It is also a trusim that there is more trash than treasure in the world. People are sloppy and they leave signs of their presence behind. It has ever been so. I realize you dont want to find trash and the advertising hype leads you to think that you won't, but I have news for you:
YOU WILL.
The form this most often takes for us as detectorists is what I call "junk stuff" - items we deem of little value. This is probably the SECOND bug-a-boo for the new detectorist. The list of such junk is long and looks something like this:
Modern Trash
Iron detritus, scattered everywhere
Foil and other wrappers
Bottle caps
Brass items, like cartridge casings
Pull tabs of all kinds
Screwcaps
Drink cans
Various and sundry other items. This can be anything from battery terminals to sprockets, rusted out locks to junk jewelry
"Old Trash"
Iron detritus, scattered everywhere
Tin cans
Brass items, like cartridge casings
Lead slag and scatter
Jar lids
Copper sheathing
Various and sundry other items. This can be anything from window pulls to can openers, rusted gun parts to broken items you only WISH were still intact.
Now it is true that some of this old stuff has virtue and is possibly of value (old buttons come first to mind), but much is merely just what it is: junk and an annoyance, especially to the beginner. Either way, old or new, you have a challenge before you.
Your instrument will sense all metals to a varying degree, depending on how you have it adjusted. It also has excellent target separation, meaning it can discern a good target from a bad one when they are as close to each other as two inches.
But the Ace 250 will go weird on you quickly in the presence of many junk items and soon drive you batty - if you drive it too hard without understanding. I have been detecting for 17 years, have tried most of the detectors from the last few decades and I had to re-learn this when I first got mine.
Fortunately, this sensitivity is to your advantage in that, if something is there, the Ace will detect it. It falls on you to learn the in's and out's of this. So take it slow. Test your detector under known conditions and learn it's responses. Read the Ace Compendium I have for you if you only PM me and request it. Relax and have fun.
Finally, develop a sense of wonder and awe at ALL of your new discoveries. That is probably the common thread that all of us share - no matter how many things we have found, it's NOT the having that matters, it's the finding which drives us.[/size]
The Ace is a very sensitive instrument and that is the biggest bug-a-boo for the beginner. Newbies want to find really old, really valuable stuff, right away - so they crank up that SENS, as if that will "draw in" the goodies. The detector reacts to this by falsing and acting weird in ways the newcomer doesnt understand, so they get frustrated. As good as it is, it has limits.
Goodies are only where you find them. So FIRST, take your detector to where goodies exist. "Know, Before You Go," just where you are taking your instrument. Unless you have available a known virgin site a hundred and fity years old, I'd suggest local schools, parks and playgrounds. Why? Because you have known targets, known trash and most targets will be fairly shallow.
This allows your detector to teach you target response rather than you shaking it in rage at not finding anything you want. And lest you think there is nothing to be found in such places, look again at some of the things the folks here turn up in such search areas.
Wait a minute. Did I say trash back there? Yessir. It is also a trusim that there is more trash than treasure in the world. People are sloppy and they leave signs of their presence behind. It has ever been so. I realize you dont want to find trash and the advertising hype leads you to think that you won't, but I have news for you:
YOU WILL.
The form this most often takes for us as detectorists is what I call "junk stuff" - items we deem of little value. This is probably the SECOND bug-a-boo for the new detectorist. The list of such junk is long and looks something like this:
Modern Trash
Iron detritus, scattered everywhere
Foil and other wrappers
Bottle caps
Brass items, like cartridge casings
Pull tabs of all kinds
Screwcaps
Drink cans
Various and sundry other items. This can be anything from battery terminals to sprockets, rusted out locks to junk jewelry
"Old Trash"
Iron detritus, scattered everywhere
Tin cans
Brass items, like cartridge casings
Lead slag and scatter
Jar lids
Copper sheathing
Various and sundry other items. This can be anything from window pulls to can openers, rusted gun parts to broken items you only WISH were still intact.
Now it is true that some of this old stuff has virtue and is possibly of value (old buttons come first to mind), but much is merely just what it is: junk and an annoyance, especially to the beginner. Either way, old or new, you have a challenge before you.
Your instrument will sense all metals to a varying degree, depending on how you have it adjusted. It also has excellent target separation, meaning it can discern a good target from a bad one when they are as close to each other as two inches.
But the Ace 250 will go weird on you quickly in the presence of many junk items and soon drive you batty - if you drive it too hard without understanding. I have been detecting for 17 years, have tried most of the detectors from the last few decades and I had to re-learn this when I first got mine.
Fortunately, this sensitivity is to your advantage in that, if something is there, the Ace will detect it. It falls on you to learn the in's and out's of this. So take it slow. Test your detector under known conditions and learn it's responses. Read the Ace Compendium I have for you if you only PM me and request it. Relax and have fun.
Finally, develop a sense of wonder and awe at ALL of your new discoveries. That is probably the common thread that all of us share - no matter how many things we have found, it's NOT the having that matters, it's the finding which drives us.[/size]
Mick in Dubbo
New member
The Ace is pretty keen to tell you how to use it. It feels quite intuitive actually.That said, depending on whether this is your first detector or not, it is going to take some time (possibly 10 hours)before you gain enough experience to feel confident as to what the detector is telling you.Before that time, you may feel some frustration.This is quite normal for all of us.
You might want to start with some by chucking some coins and pull tabs on the ground (one at a time) and waive the Ace over them to see where on the discrimination range they show up on.Also listen as to how they sound.(Just check the ground that your testing on doesn't have any metal in the ground.)
Play around with the pinpoint button by holding it down and then waiving the coil side to side over a target a listen to how it sounds when you have centred the coil over the target. When you have centred the coil over the target, side it forward and backwards and watch where the signal drops off. Try that on good targets and bad ones and note the differences. Also raise the coil off the ground to simulate depth and repeat the exercise. note where the signal drops off again.
You might want to do you first hunts in sand or in bark chip playgrounds, as this will make learning easier. Also, as your pain threshold allows, dig up both good signals as well as poorer ones. This will build your confidence in the machine more quickly as to what you should dig and what to leave in the ground.
Like I indicated at the beginning of this post, I don't know how experienced you are, so I hope I haven't bored you with details.
All the best with the new toy and I look forward to your posts.
Mick Evans.
You might want to start with some by chucking some coins and pull tabs on the ground (one at a time) and waive the Ace over them to see where on the discrimination range they show up on.Also listen as to how they sound.(Just check the ground that your testing on doesn't have any metal in the ground.)
Play around with the pinpoint button by holding it down and then waiving the coil side to side over a target a listen to how it sounds when you have centred the coil over the target. When you have centred the coil over the target, side it forward and backwards and watch where the signal drops off. Try that on good targets and bad ones and note the differences. Also raise the coil off the ground to simulate depth and repeat the exercise. note where the signal drops off again.
You might want to do you first hunts in sand or in bark chip playgrounds, as this will make learning easier. Also, as your pain threshold allows, dig up both good signals as well as poorer ones. This will build your confidence in the machine more quickly as to what you should dig and what to leave in the ground.
Like I indicated at the beginning of this post, I don't know how experienced you are, so I hope I haven't bored you with details.
All the best with the new toy and I look forward to your posts.
Mick Evans.
The 250 is what they say, turn on and go. Dont run the sen to high it does not make it go deeper. When I got mine I put it in All metal and dug everything the first day, you know,that was some of my best finds this year. Love that 250, I am kicking around the 1350 or the 1500.
Just have fun out there.
Just have fun out there.
You made a great choice! Now let the fun begin.....get away from the computer and start hunting 
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Uncle Willy
New member
Welcome to the club bud. Now the fun begins. Just take your time and the finds will come.
Bill
Bill
Good luck!