Who would like to see

[Jackpine Savage]

FT come out with a non-metered relic machine with the performance of the T2 / F75?

Manual GB, with the option of using 1 or 2 tones based on the PF mode plus one of the sampled modes.

Make it chest mountable with either an all metal toggle or mode change button on the front panel.

Price it to compete with similar high performance US and European relic machines.

Yeah that would be nice!!

Tom

 

[Bill Ladd]

I'm still using the 1270 'cause I need the manual ground balance. Even though its not balanced well, non hipmountable, & I hate 9 volts now. Make a new ergonomic one with a higher frequency like the X5 with newer & lighter coils. Something super deep & non metered that will blow away things like the Tejon, & then they can pull the 1270 from the line-up all together (or have they?)
HH,
Bill

 

[Jackpine Savage]

He's against hip mounted detectors for some reason. Says he has to have his arm twisted to even consider it.

Yeah something to compete with or better the X5, Tejon and GMaxx is the idea. Don't know for sure about the 1270 but based on what FT has been doing I gotta think they are replacing all the old Fishers eventually :sad:

Tom

 

[Bill Ladd]

I found alotta great things with it & may possibly use it at DIV in a couple weeks......but with first texas coverin' all the bases with all kinds of new units a non metered one would be great....

 

[BuckeyeBrad]

ya just gotta have a true mixed mode option as part of the tools. Threshold based audio (not just some threshold when sens is on 10) Lotsa iron res....weather proof....two tone option that is user settable for either ferrous/low, non-ferrous/high as well as low tone up to the disc point and high tone over the disc point. DD and CC compatible. For those times particularly when you're in disc only, an led showing that your GB setting is off would be a cool touch. I'll add more later

 

[Jackpine Savage]

Good points Brad. Serious iron resolution is a must and why I like the 1270. The T2 I used wasn't bad but it could have been better and I'm not picking nits either. For serious iron hunting the 20-21-22 range of the T2 did not quite cut it in some situations and in the 2 tone mode.. forget it!

Tom

 

[Keith Southern]

an added ground balance for all metal and disc with a true threshold based all metal mode with a trigger to jump from disc to all metal.I might be old school but it just seems i can find more with the 12xx series detector with its abilities to reject iron but let it bleed through enough to let masked targets bleed through too.It has alot to do with the the 2nd derivative filter concept that allows all the spits and pops and clicks.

You can see the value of this type of setup when running the 1236 and turn the silencer from on to of.f On is a 3rd filter and it behaves like every other detector with a clean iron rejection but turn it off and you have the 2nd filter only and all the clicks and pops letting you know theres targets there and if you listen carefully you can here a smooth type click sneak in throw it back in the 3rd filter and bam its gone not even a hint.

I believe that if the 1270 or 1236 which is my personal favorite was left alone except for the all metal threshold and ground balance I would truly have my perfect detector.meters do not mean that much to me in iron littered sites or for deep hunting and tones are just another form of discrimination like watching a meterand you can never be for sure.

I prefer a low frequency detector because of its ability to punch mineralized ground better than a higher say 10khz and above.the 1270 and 1236 are very sensitive to low conductors for some reason and it seems to work in my harsh ground actually out performing the higher freq machines in depth and just as good on the low conductors.

If you run your 36/70 fishers in dense iron or bad ground with the silencer on you are leaving targets.

Just my take on it Tom!!

 

[Jackpine Savage]

Brad,

Rather than an alert light, they should hire the Garret sweetie to whisper in your ear.

"[sub]here's your cigar honey[/sub]"

 

[Jackpine Savage]

and for the exact same reasons you stated. They are true "beep dig" detectors, ie; anything even slightly different sounding from the normal clicks and pops needs to be investigated and dug. Used that way they will find the goodies others miss.

Thanks for the post Keith!
Tom

 

[BarnacleBill]

The circuit on the Red Heat Tornado works very well, not perfect, but very well.

HH
BarnacleBill

 

[Keith Southern]

but have never been fortunate enough to locate one second hand here in the states.Some of my favorite iron hunting machines were and are the 1236, with 5 inch coil and I.D. Edge ,a compass gold scanner pro with depth mod, and 6 inch coil ,and the bandido 2 umax, and also back when i ran one a gold mountian 1650 .

Keith

 

[BuckeyeBrad]

n/t

 

[Bill Ladd]

For serious treasure hunters this is a huge thing. For me, smaller coils help some but just don't cut it......
I have so many iron loaded homesites I know there are smaller coins & buttons masked. We have scraped away a few inches of topsoil to prove how much we have missed.
HH,
Bill

 

[Tinfoil]

n/t

 

[Jackpine Savage]

of the T2 if it had a smaller coil for iron hunting. Until then IMO the T2 is a "one trick pony".

Tom

 

[Jackpine Savage]

Nothing made can actually see through iron. Fisher spent some bucks on the tooling for the 5.75" Edge/C$ coil which are great little performers in iron and FT is not even making use of it!

tom