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Who uses the X-terra 705 as a Gold Nugget Finder

Gyva02

New member
Hello all, first post here and have been reading these boards for a few. I just ordered a 705 and it should be here in a few days. I bought it to try and shoot nuggets with it. I wanted a PI model but just didnt have the funds for it so after reading and watching some minelab vids I opted for the 705 as going coin hunting every once in awhile sounds fun too. Although I have done a search on here for those who prospect with the 705 I'm not really turning up much and was hoping someone who reads this might point me in the right direction so I can read some real world expierence about those who use this unit to detect gold in the gold fields. I got the package deal that included a 18.75 DD coil carrying case and a few other goodies. Cant wait for it to get here. Hope to read some good stories, thanks in advance!



Mike.
 
Try this link: http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,496336,496336#msg-496336

There are a Couple Aussies in here who use this for prospecting.

Also look in the Yank/Aussie prospecting forum. There are guys there who use the 70/705 with good results. You will find there are a few who have had naught but bad results.

Jeff
 
Hi all,

Mike, I have no stories or advice to share with the 705. I like you have just started out with a used 70 and will be mainly concentrating on nugget shooting. I have only been out once and was very happy with the 70.
I guess my only advice to you would be, be persistent and never give up!!
Good luck mate....................I cant wait to hear about that first piece you turn over.

Regards to all

:ausflag: Jim.
 
This is something I wrote on another thread that may help you:

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,1188142
"But I can tell you that the X-70(or 5) in Prospecting Mode(Iron Mask off)with a HF(18.75 kHz) coil(especially the 6"--5x10"--10.5" HF DD's, and 9" HF CC if mineralization allows a Concentric) will find some very fine gold specimens(like in quartz), sponge(holes in it), wire, and mico small grain sized fine gold(nuggets, if you can call them that, you have to wet your finger to pick one up) that the gold prospecting Pulse Inductions{SD/GP(X), TDI, and Infinium LS} will not even beep on--not register on."

The 705 has Off-Set Tracking that the 70 does not have, as a bit of an advantage for prospecting for gold.

Go to FAQFAQ on the top of this Findmall Forum and look for gold prospecting threads.

http://www.minelab.com/
 
Gday mate,

sorry but it has not been a good experience for me.
I have hunted gold mainly in South Australia and the Golden triangle in Victoria.
And therefore have been in some of the worst ground in the world for detectors (with such high mineralisation that the VLF machine just keeps beeping)
Mine was very noisy using the 5x10''DD HF and the 6" DD HF coils with loads of falsing.
the only way to quieten it a little was to turn down the Sensitivity.
It also lacks depth, so much so that I wondered was I kidding myself...2 -3 " was about average depth obtained with small test nuggets on heavy mineralised soils.
my mates using PI's ...3500 and 4500's were getting 2 foot plus.

Having said all that i did jag a small piece and have now retired the Xterra from gold prospecting...i am resting on my laurels.
I hunt 4 days a week with my Xt70 in the city and really love it, I am not just a knocker, i have just tried to be honest.
if you can find some quiet ground somewhere you would be better off.
if i ever get back into gold I will get a sd2200 or better...whatever i can afford.
Good luck but if you do go prospecting...I hope you find some and come back and show us here.

Terra59
 
Yes Terra is right, I have heard that so many times before, if your soil in high mineralization forget using the X-70(5) for gold nuggets or specimens as it picks up iron ground mineralization, it cannot cope to cancel it out. But if your ground is medium to mild mineralization, especially low on iron then you will have no trouble and it should be fine to use then do not worry. It totally depends on what your ground is like in your area. If you live in a glaciated area with lots of glacial till it is usually low in iron mineralization and hardly no volcanic hot rocks there will be likely be no problem. But if you live in Arizona or Oregon-Washington state there might be problems in areas. All VLF's have problems in All-Metal Mode and a PI is the way to go then. It all depends on the area you are in. I have heard in some places in Alaska like Ganes Creek a VLF is great to use, but in other areas it is useless.

Something of interest from Jack Lange(the same applies to the 705):


MINELAB XTERRA 70 by Jack Lange
This article mainly discusses the top of the range Xterra 70 but briefly touches on the mid range Xterra 50 and the cheaper Xterra 30

X TERRA 70 VERSATILITY
This is easily the best goldfields detector on the market under $2,500 when used with the optional DD coil. It is also the best beach/coin machine under $1200. So it is a true all-purpose machine. The standard coil, while great on the dry beach sand and park soils, cannot handle the mineralized goldfields. Put a DD coil on it and it will handle the goldfields, even the noisy spots, provided you turn the sensitivity control down.

I did some depth tests in relatively quiet goldfield soil and was amazed at its depth ability--only down about 20% to 30% on the Gp3500! However this quickly shrank to about 60% less in mineralized, noisy soils. This is fine for the hobbyist but the serious gold hunter will need to fork out more for top of the range machine.
However, the Xterra 70 has some advantages over the top of the range GPs. It discriminates small junk targets out much better and it beeps on small gold specimens far better. By small specimens I mean fine veins and small rough pieces of gold in quartz rock as are commonly found on reef- gold mullock heaps or quartz paddocks. In fact some cagey professionals use the XTerra 70 especially for specimen hunting and for searching high-junk goldfield camp sites.

When in Prospecting mode, the character of this little hi tech machine changes. It becomes sensitive to tiny gold nuggets that it wont even look at in the treasure hunting-coin modes. Its discriminator will only reject iron at half depth, but thats enough to get rid of most junk targets. When detecting goldfield areas thick with junk, its best to sacrifice the tiny nuggets and select a coin mode where the discriminator will reject all iron and aluminum foil. At least it will pick up bits of gold as big as this letter O or bigger.

GROUND BALANCE
It allows you to chose between manual or auto ground balance or to fix (lock) it in. Auto ground balance, means the detector reads the ground and tunes itself to the varied soil types. This means, you dont have the hassle of self tuning at every few steps.

DEPTH
This detector goes as deep as the expensive models (Explorer Quattro Sovereign) in dry beach sand, all soils, but does not go nearly as deep in damp beach sand because of the salt effect. Especially when set in prospecting mode, it will easily pick up very fine jewelry and tiny nuggets that the others wont even beep on. On the goldfield, it will detect deeper than any of the above, especially on small nuggets.

DISCRIMINATION
Is adequate for 99% of users. Only the Explorer series will discriminate better but the Xterra 70 is much simpler to use.
It has 3 discrimination modes or patterns that can be used factory pr-set or customized by the user to set their needs.

HANDLING
All the Xterra series may look light, small and unimpressive compared to their big Minelab brothers but thats what makes them a featherweight that any little lady or kid could swing for hours on end.

SUMMARY
If you can only afford one budget detector and want to prospect for gold as well as coins relics, jewelry etc, this would have to be the best choice for you. If you can afford a few grand for a gold detector then get a GPX 4000 or an earlier GP model and get the Xterra 70 for the little quartz-gold specimens and general treasure hunting.

Happy Hunting!

Jack


Also for depth and size of coils, Randy(Digger) wrote:
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,1127217

Re: messin' with my 505, 705 and a few coils.....
Posted by: Digger
Date: January 14, 2010 08:57AM Moderator

I have put all the coils through quite an extensive testing process. I could say those test results were the reason I was willing to set some of them aside, and continue using the coils I chose. But with a bit more explanation, I found the 6 X 10 (HF DD) Elliptical to do what it was designed to do (in my opinion). At 18.75 kHz, it is a "longer" version of the 6 inch (HF) DD at the same frequency. Frankly, when comparing these two in my moderate soil, I found very little (if any) difference in the depth of detection. There is a little more difference in airtests. But I believe the effects the soil has on the larger "footprint" of the elliptical cancels out any increase in actual hunt depth. They are both DD coils operating at 18.75 kHz. As such, it seems the "width" of the coil is a very important factor when comparing depths. Since both are nearly identical in "width" the main difference I found is in the amount of turf covered with each sweep. Therefore, if I am needing a coil that separates better than the concentrics (which the DD design does), my preference is for the smaller of the two (comparing the elliptical 6 X 10 with the 6-inch DD) simply because the 6-inch round DD does not have to analyze as much soil at any one time. (again, footprint) "Left to right" target separation is nearly equal between these two. But we must consider that adjacent targets are not always to either side of the primary target. Sometimes they are toward the tip or heel of the coil, depending on your direction of sweep. And it those instances, the 6 inch out performs the elliptical. (once again, due to the smaller footprint)

As to the round 10.5 DD coils...... since the depth of detection is somewhat dependent on the width of the coil, the "wider" 10.5 round coils will be deeper than an elliptical coil of the same "length". From my observations, the large round DD coils have +/- 40% more depth than the elliptical. >I've found the 10.5 DD at 18.75 kHz to be more sensitive than the 10.5 DD at 7.5 kHz. As such, I usually have to lower the sensitivity setting to operate it without falsing. But with all those things considered, both are similar in performance, depth wise.< I'm still convinced that I get more "raw depth" out of my 9-inch concentrics than I can either of the two 10.5 inch DD's. But my soil is moderately mineralized, with a typical ground phase reading in the 40's.


Hope this helps!
 
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,1146399
Re: Prospecting - Undocumented Ground Mineralization Feature on 705
Posted by: Digger
Date: February 10, 2010 12:24PM
General Reviews/Tests
BarnacleBill----Measuring your ground mineralization level using a hidden feature of the X70.
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,574329,574329#msg-574329


A compendium of BT posts on prospecting with the X70.
Posted by: BarnacleBill
Date: March 17, 2007 10:23AM
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,496336,496336#msg-496336
 
I live in Southern Idaho, anyone else know the area? I dont know for sure what kind of soil we have around here. Theres lots of volcanic rock in some areas, then up in the hills in gold country is alot of granit and quartz... I'll guess we'll see...


Thanks for the links and comments everyone!

Mike.
 
Hi Gyva,

Even in my badly mineralized ground.. I am able to pick up a penny at 7". So I'm not suffering THAT much depth loss. The only problem is.. all coins past 4" come up as iron -8 on the target ID due to the mineralization. I can't comment on how well the machine will handle nugget hunting, but I suspect if you hang in there with it.. it will do fine. If not... you can always resell and try a different machine. They seem to hold their value.
 
Hey look for some posts from Steve in Idaho
 
Hi Mike.
I don't know which country you live in, but if you look up at the top of this forum under FAQFAQ, you'll get some good info on nugget shooting. Use the search icon and type in 2 authors:- B.T. and Nero Design. I think that both of them have info in the FAQFAQ. I'm not a 100% that I've got Nero Design exactly correct, but both these guys have spent some solid time on their X-Terra's gold hunting with good success. BT lives around the goldfeilds and got out a lot with his X-Terra, but as he works for a Whites dealership now, he swings a MXT now and posts over there. Both these guys are Aussies.
I have taken my X-Terra out on the gold fields a few times, around Stuart Town in NSW :ausflag:. I haven't snagged any nuggets yet and like Terra, I did get a bit frustrated by all the hot rocks giving off false signals, It does take perseverence and remember that there is a lot of dirt between nuggets, but if you are keen and keep at it, you'll be rewarded! Make sure that you hunt at well known locations where you know that gold has been found in the past, till you build up your knowledge base considerably. This way, you give yourself the best chance of success. Join a detecting club as well and go out onto the gold fields with club members who are experienced at gold hunting. That will also you you a major leg up as well.
Good luck with it.
Mick Evans.
 
G'day mate!
Its been a long time since I have posted on here but I was reading your post and thought I would put my 2 cents worth in. I have the 70 not the 705 but I'm told they are virtually the same detector bar a few adjustments. I have had some success with nugget hunting in the past with the 70 but due to personal commitments it has been awhile since I have gone after the yellow. I live in :ausflag: so as you have read we have highly mineralized ground which can make it tough for any VLF detector. The more you use the machine the better you will become so patience is a very important part when it come to this hobby. Your gonna have fun with this machine trust me. You can take it anywhere and use it which is why I love the 70 so much. Coin hunting is another story too, I cant tell you how much money I have found with my 70 its simply crazy. Some of my other posts might give you a better indication on my success with the 70. Best of luck you it mate!
Cheers!
 
Call Gerry at Gerry's detectors in Boise and he can help send you in the right direction, he also sells Minelab detectors.
 
Hey steve there you are! Can you tell me how hot the ground is around here in the Pine, Rockybar, Atlanta areas? I'm hopeing the 705 will be able to see past the mineralzation in these parts. thanks.


Mike.
 
I have never hunted in these parts but if you use a DD coil, you should not have much problems with mineralized ground. I always use the prospect mode and hunt with no iron mask and dig all targets when hunting gold. Always keep the ground balance adjusted to the ground. I have used my X-70 to hunt nuggets in Alaska with good results. I am going back to Ganes cr, AK in June for another two weeks.
 
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