So I hunt very mild ground around colonial cellar holes. Searching for copper and silver coins and of course Relics like buttons and stuff.....Those pesky square nails like to mask the goods,but the idx does pretty good...with the woods here in New Hampshire stuff sinks deep due to frost,snow,and lots of leaves. My average finds are 5" to 10" deep. The whites IDX can hid large buttons and large cents at 7 to 9" max. I use the 9.5 bluemax coil and it does pretty darn good in depth and separation it seems.. So will a Whites sst be any better at the type of hunting I do ? Will I get similar depth? Will the recovery speed be just as fast or faster ? I understand the sst has no disc knob and iam OK with that as I dig everything that's non ferrous. I just curious if the 6x10 DD eclipse will get the same depth on the sst as the 9.5 coil on a idx... I know it's alot to ask but has any one really gave the sst a good hard test. I really like the IDX ,however i would like some tones ! And ground balance and a higher resolution on the visual ID... Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated .......Oh yea one more thing.....the IDX has a much lower freq.....which seems to bite those largecent good at 7+ inches with a nice smooth tone .....do you think the sst can hit hard on deeper silver and copper with its higher freq ?....OK iam Done Know . thanks !
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Whites sierra super track vs Whites IDX in the iron
- Thread starter JJdigs
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Old California
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Had an SST, liked it a lot. Was a decent detector, Gain was ok.
Just two issues, ferrous and it's next to lowest tone are too close had to monitor the screen.
And overloaded in some mineralization not commonly an issue with most other VLF, Other than these two issues, was a good detector.
Paul
Just two issues, ferrous and it's next to lowest tone are too close had to monitor the screen.
And overloaded in some mineralization not commonly an issue with most other VLF, Other than these two issues, was a good detector.
Paul
I've used the IDX Pro and the Mod'd by Mr. Bill IDX Pro for years. It was my Go to detector for hunting those iron infested sites for years. I tried the M6 , MXT and MXT Pro in those same sites but they just couldn't produce like the IDX. Then came the Makro Racer and I haven't used the IDX Pro since.
I kinda feel the same....if the IDX works well for me I prob should keep it. I just wish it had tones....I used to have a Qxt pro ,but at the time I also had the etrac so I never used the Qxt so I sold it. I'm wondering if the Qxt would be a better bet, with more user adjustments....but most say the IDX is a faster and better machine. " well that is a modified IDX". I wonder if there really is that much difference in proformance. Are the Mr bill mods really that much more powerful.
OregonGregg
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If I remember right ( correct me if I'm wrong) but it seemed the SST was a neutered version of the M6. It didn't have any disc, which in sites that contain iron would become a very busy noisy machine. I would at least look at a machine that has discrimination. If the SST interest you then maybe consider the M6. It would give you better operator control. If you wanted to hear it all turn the the disc to zero. If a site was too busy with iron you would have the option of discriminating some of it out.
As mentioned above like Tom said the Racer 2 would be a nice option. You could run no or very little discrimination, run in 3 tones and have the ability to lower the volume of the low tone (iron) to just barely hear it and listen for those mid and high tones to pop out, plus the fact it is an excellent machine for hunting iron/trashy sites. Or stick with the IDX, still a very good machine in iron infested sites with the Bullseye 5.3 coil or the 350 snooper coil.
As mentioned above like Tom said the Racer 2 would be a nice option. You could run no or very little discrimination, run in 3 tones and have the ability to lower the volume of the low tone (iron) to just barely hear it and listen for those mid and high tones to pop out, plus the fact it is an excellent machine for hunting iron/trashy sites. Or stick with the IDX, still a very good machine in iron infested sites with the Bullseye 5.3 coil or the 350 snooper coil.
The racer has my attention too....one thing i have noticed is........let's say a Garrett ace 250/350 even at pro......or Whites vx3,mxt, mx5. Or any other mid level and a bunch of high-end machine all preform within inches....BANG.....it could be a tesoro or a minelab...dang I just want them all !
The Sierra Super Trac (SST) is a Jimmy (Sierra) Normandi creation for the west coast. Because of the large amounts of Black Sands and mineralization. He added the 6X9 DD coil because of this. I used the M6 & MXT when I lived in N/E PA and did great. If your IDX works fine, find a small coil for trash infested area's. Also, the M6 / MXT have fast tracking (like the SST) 
I recently bought a mint condition IDX Pro earlier in the year for a very advantageous price,this came with the 9.5'' coil mainly for use on trashy roman/saxon that i have access too,and must admit its a real joy to use,albeit i guess it would be even better with a smaller 5.3 coil on the detector.Have heard alot about this modification Mr Bill modification,not sure what exactly is modified or even how the mods enhance the machine,but as i am UK based i doubt that i would be able to get it converted due to shipping costs etc.
But the IDX Pro is one of the old school detectors that works and works well especially on the trashy iron sites,its also very 'enjoyable' to use and brings a smile to my face every time i use it,which for the most part is what its all about finding some decent finds and also bringing the enjoyment factor back into play,as more sophisticated top end detectors can take away the enjoyment although they do produce finds,but sometimes its nice just to switch a machine on and go detecting rather than spending alot of time altering settings.
But the IDX Pro is one of the old school detectors that works and works well especially on the trashy iron sites,its also very 'enjoyable' to use and brings a smile to my face every time i use it,which for the most part is what its all about finding some decent finds and also bringing the enjoyment factor back into play,as more sophisticated top end detectors can take away the enjoyment although they do produce finds,but sometimes its nice just to switch a machine on and go detecting rather than spending alot of time altering settings.
Mega,
The mods,are
External ground balance control
External threshold control
Change one (or two) resistors to max out depth
Two position Self Adjust Threshold control (this one is less common.
Full details are availavle on the web if you dig on google a bit and the cost to jave a local technician do it would not be high.
Having said all that, since you can adjust the gb through the hole in the case, unless you are bothered by extreme mineralization it' probably not worth doing the other mods.
The mods,are
External ground balance control
External threshold control
Change one (or two) resistors to max out depth
Two position Self Adjust Threshold control (this one is less common.
Full details are availavle on the web if you dig on google a bit and the cost to jave a local technician do it would not be high.
Having said all that, since you can adjust the gb through the hole in the case, unless you are bothered by extreme mineralization it' probably not worth doing the other mods.
@ lytle78,Rick i dont tend to have extreme mineralization on most of my permissions,so apart from the slight increase in depth the 'mod' may not be required,will run it with the stock coil for most of the time and just this morning located a as new 5.3 coil for the IDX,so once again will try that on the real trashy sites as i feel that could be a very good combination.
Thanks for your info on the modification,i could do it my self but am starting too think do i really need it,time will tell as they say.
Thanks for your info on the modification,i could do it my self but am starting too think do i really need it,time will tell as they say.
Only in all metal. Mainly important if you want to adjust the ground balance or if you're really picky about the volume level in all metal. If youmuse headphones with volume adjustment, youmcan have up high and then turn the phones down to your selected level - different strokes.....