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White's MXT with New 12" Spider Coil vs Eclipse 5.3"

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toddscape

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I have just started hunting in old 18th & 19th Century home sites with the standard 950 Coil in the NC Mountains. With lots of trash. I was about to buy the Eclipse 5.3" coil for trashy areas, but the sales lady at white's has talked me out of this and said buy the New 12" Spider Coil. I know the arguments. She said if you are going to dig everything then you might as well go with greater depth that the New 12" Spider Coil offers.

The Super 12 Search Coil for DFX, MXT, and M6
This new 12" concentric coil is designed for maximum depth and ground coverage.

I am not too impressed with the MXT discrimination and target identification, except when it says it is iron, it is mostly right. But that in OK, I have read most people who test the MXT are not either. Maybe I need to learn more about this machine as this is only my 2nd week owning it.

I have a friend that owns the Fisher Coin striker, he loves this machine,
it is on sale for $550.00. He has made some really big finds with it.
I hope I made the right choice in machines. When the MXT says something is there then I usually find something! Just have to dig lots of trash.

In NC
 
Actually I think she was right. In an area that old I would want to dig everything as most stuff not coins would also have relic value. Now in a modern park I would go the 5.3 to get in and around the junk. Give the MXT some time. Read the manual through a few times. Learn to use it. It is one of the best out there.
 
i would get both 5.3 for the trashy high target eareas then go deeper after you have cleaned up just as a macanic needs a long and short sqrew driver so you need two coils
 
[quote toddscape]I have just started hunting in old 18th & 19th Century home sites with the standard 950 Coil in the NC Mountains. With lots of trash. I was about to buy the Eclipse 5.3" coil for trashy areas, but the sales lady at white's has talked me out of this and said buy the New 12" Spider Coil. I know the arguments. She said if you are going to dig everything then you might as well go with greater depth that the New 12" Spider Coil offers.

The Super 12 Search Coil for DFX, MXT, and M6
This new 12" concentric coil is designed for maximum depth and ground coverage.

I am not too impressed with the MXT discrimination and target identification, except when it says it is iron, it is mostly right. But that in OK, I have read most people who test the MXT are not either. Maybe I need to learn more about this machine as this is only my 2nd week owning it.

I have a friend that owns the Fisher Coin striker, he loves this machine,
it is on sale for $550.00. He has made some really big finds with it.
I hope I made the right choice in machines. When the MXT says something is there then I usually find something! Just have to dig lots of trash.

In NC[/quote]

I find the MXT to be very good at discrimination and target ID. Take the time to learn the detector and how to set it up for different situations.:) Sometimes when hunting coins, the relic mode is the better mode to use like when there is a lot of iron trash in the ground. In the relic mode when the detector is swept over a Ferris and non ferris item together like a small piece of iron and a coin together the high tone will prevail over the low tone of the iron, there is less chance of masking the coin out like in the coin and jewelry mode. Also the VDI numbers read the same in both modes, if a nickel is 18-20 on the VDI scale it will be the same in the coin and relic mode on the VDI scale for both modes. Using the proper coil for a hunting situation helps as well, smaller coils for trashy areas like the 5.3 or 4X6DD, bigger coils for open areas with less trash like the stock 950 or the new 12" spider coil. I think you will find the 12" coil you purchased a little noisy and difficult to use in heavy trash.:unsure: Also the right amount of discrimination and swing speed makes a big difference in finds, the MXT likes a slow to medium speed on the swing.

Study the the owners manual it has a lot of valuable information in it concerning the MXT and how it functions. There is also a book out called the MXT Edge that is very helpful and worth having.

I have owned the Coin Strike as well and it is a decent detector, its not as balanced or well made in my opinion and has a little harder learning curve for some, more than likely you will not like it any more than the MXT. I still like the MXT better over all and find it very user friendly.

Learn the detector you have and it will treat you right.:thumbup:The detector does not make the hunter, the hunter makes the detector in most cases,:clap: and the MXT is one heck of a detector in the right hands.

Best of luck to you, HH :detecting:
Bill G
 
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i agree as well!..this may sound like a stretch,but it is possible for someone with a non.discriminating detector to out hunt another with the latest and greatest,simply because that person KNOWS every nuance of his inferior instrument!
 
The spider coil 12 inch i honestly found due to lots of tests to be the deepest coil i ever used , no bs , it's got the best depth you can get. Try on trashy ground it 's no way as good as the 5.3 , the 5.3 is totally superb on iron and trash , deepest coin came from 8 inches with the 5. 3 . You should get a couple more inches on coins with the spider coil , say around the 10 inch mark.
 
jmaryt said:
i agree as well!..this may sound like a stretch,but it is possible for someone with a non.discriminating detector to out hunt another with the latest and greatest,simply because that person KNOWS every nuance of his inferior instrument!
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I would learn my detector before I made any rulings on which is best. The MXT Pro is awesome and it doesn't take long to get the hang of it if you find a target , look at what the detector is telling you then dig. always remember what you find verses what it told you. then factor in depth. I went to the MXT because of the V3I and the Fx 75 was to noise or to complicated for a enjoyable hunt. Coils are the difference on what you find most of the time. The 9.5 or the sef 6x8 is hard to beat
 
Go with the 4x6 or the 5.3 clean up ther area with it first then take the larger coil over it again. You will be amazed at what you find.
 
[size=large]nobody seems to want to mention the D2 DD coil. i find it does real well in trashy and open areas and is not as heavey as the 12. just a few weeks ago i got my first silver coin with it. a 1954 franklin half at 8". i'm confident that if it were at 10" i'd still found it. i don't understand all the
hype on the 12" now. before now hardly anyone recommended a 12" coil. you said you've read all the stuff before so no use rehashing that. i just thought the D2 should be concidered. it's smaller than the 12 bigger than the 9.5 and is a DD coil. that of course matters if your soil is bad. jmho.
just be sure to enjoy yourself whatever you decide.

HH[/size]
 
[size=x-large]This thread was started 4 years ago in June 2007.[/size]

The person that started the thread did not shown the courtesy to even write thank you to the many replies.

[size=x-large]Let the thread die.[/size]
 
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