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whites MX5 - coinmaster GT
- Thread starter yowow#1
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bigtim1973
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Not to burst anyones bubble about whites new mx5 but I am disappointed that it is along the prizm coinmaster build line. I heard that the new machine was going to be an ID type all terrain unit like the one the "other company" makes. All in all the coinmasters were dust proof and misty weather proof already. I was looking for something like an all waterproof MXT not a black coinmaster GT with a new touchpad. Oh well, Tim
bigtim1973
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Talked to whites yesturday and was told that it has the M6 guts in a plastic housing. Now this may be something awesome. I guess let's wait and see! Tim
bigtim1973
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yowow#1 said:
No not being ficticious. That is what I was told by whites. Now the awesome part about this is the fact that the coinmaster GT is not any good here in my area but the m6 is. So if they can have a platform in plastic that is 100 bucks cheaper and it performs like the M6...that is the awesome part. It also takes the E series coils as well which are very nice coils. You give them a ring in Sweethome OR. and see what they tell you, Tim
Celtic Dragon
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Type in KellyCo's search engine 'Whites MX5', the link will come up, select the link and the page for the MX5 will come up.
cachefinder
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Looks to be like the Mx 5 will be like the M6. MX5 has a frequency of 14kHz--be able to use all the eclipse coils. Has a 20 segment notch discriminator to be set at what you want to hear. Has 2 different depth readings(one like the GT) and the second reading will be when in the pinpoint mode is pushed. VDI mumbers will show depth at 1/2" increments. So hopefully will be more accurate in determining depth. . I also like that there is a different place to turn the back lite on. I did not like it with the power button. If you didn't notice the light bulb symbol, you may have the light on when the sun is shinning. I hope to get one this week will see what it does.
Well, I guess you could say I am "thinking out loud" as I write this reply as I have only been using the new MX5 for a couple of days to evaluate it, but I think my assessment, so far, is quite correct.yowow#1 said:
I like the Coinmaster GT for the price bracket it is in, especially with the number of detectors in that price range that only have a preset GB or lack other nice features the Coin GT has. The Coin GT really is the former Prizm 6T, just in a burgundy-colored housing and using a 2-piece rod system w/o rod-locks. I felt the Prizm 6T was over-priced for the bracket it was designed to compete in, but the Coin GT, the same unit, is now priced very well.
I felt the Prizm 6T was high especially because it had the same suggested retail price as White's M6. While I liked the Prizm 6T for what it offered and how it preformed for what I consider to be the 'average' Coin Hunting hobbyist, I found that I needed more or different performance demands to accomplish successful hunts at the types of sites I seek out, and I consider myself to be a more 'avid detectorist' who understands touch challenges and knows what's needed to be functional under really tough conditions.
That said, a lot of the measure of what is needed in a detector for a consumer is in the types of sites they hunt, the mineralization they face, and the type of trash they generally deal with as well as the density of the trash at a location. For example, here are some examples of what I hear from people faced with common questions or some typical descriptions they offer.:
"I hunt in average ground." ... 'Average?' Just what is 'average?' Some people are lead to believe that gold nuggets are found in very mineralized ground, and since they don't have gold nuggets in their area, they must not be in mineralized ground. Wrong! I have hunted gold nuggets in areas with a more moderate ferrous mineralization level than some of the ghost towns I hunt out west, and more mellow than some urban parks or renovation sites I encounter.
"My ground not too mineralized."... Dirty bad nasty ground mineralization can really have a negative impact on a detector's performance. It is important to know what type of iron mineral ground we are dealing with, and equally important to know how the detector handles the ground [size=small](Ground Balance and/or Auto-Tracking)[/size] and how to achieve the best sweep speed in varying conditions. There are a lot of differences between various detector circuitry designs when I comes t filtering ground signal and target signals. The typical metal detecting hobbyist generally doesn't know mild from mellow from moderate from severe.
"I like to use Tone ID all the time."... Why, I ask? I usually hear the answer that it helps them find just the good targets, and they usually express the feeling that they think it works great. Near perfect! If their detector is capable of turning 'Off' the Tone ID, I frequently ask if they have tried it, but most often get a 'No' response, and others say "Yes, but everything sounds the same."
That is sort of correct, but a trained ear will start to pick out some subtle audio differences, better with some makes and models than with others. A model with a saturated audio response won't convey subtle information like a good modulated audio can.
If you attended one of my full-day seminars, you would hear the comments of attendees before some demonstrations, and then get some different opinions after I have used their detectors to demonstrate audio responses from several desired targets we would like to find. You would also hear the shocked replies when I demonstrate finding good targets in bad conditions.
I like some Tone ID circuitry, and I use Tone ID when I feel it works reasonably well for the area and can be to my benefit for some casual coin hunting, but seldom for working some older sites with ample ferrous junk.
"I like a light-weight detector so I can cover the ground in a hurry." ... A detector's weight is not what allows a fast sweep of an area, but a combination of the ground mineral conditions as well as the detector's circuitry design. Additionally, we also have to consider the size and type of search coil used, and the amount and density of targets (accepted and rejected) at any hunt site. More often than not, a quick-sweep coverage of most sites is not going to be highly efficient an rewarding.
"I like or need a bigger search coil so I can get better depth."... Depth, depth, depth. I have heard that since I built my first detector back in March of '65 when I asked myself about getting more depth, and, to this day, I always get asked "How deep will it go?" My answer? Deep enough.
Back in the latter '60s and through the '70s, many detectors came with a 5" to 7" coil standard. Some did have an 11" coil, but the 'standard' was often smaller-sized, although many manufacturers settled on a coil of about 8" in diameter during this period.
Through the latter '70s and until the late '80s, many detectors came with a 7" to 8" coil as standard, and a slightly larger accessory coil was optional, in the 10" to 12" size range. Some larger coils, 14", 15" and16", were sold. but promoted mainly for cache hunting or serious relic hunters looking for bigger and/or deeper and bigger targets.
About '88 we saw a new trend to shift from an 8" size to something a little larger. White's went to their 950 coil, and later on Tesoro to an 8X9, Minelab used a 10
looks interesting.
Am I reading correctly that the MX5 has fixed ground balance compared to the adjustable GB on the M6?
Ive been considering getting an M6, and now theres another choice.
Wondering what to do, and whether the fixed GB on the MX5 is an issue, comparatively speaking.
thanks
Am I reading correctly that the MX5 has fixed ground balance compared to the adjustable GB on the M6?
Ive been considering getting an M6, and now theres another choice.
Wondering what to do, and whether the fixed GB on the MX5 is an issue, comparatively speaking.
thanks