looking at geting one of their detectors...but i don't like their practice of omitting the detectors weight in their "full specs" section on every detector.Full specs........... in my world would include the detector's weight. I'm still planning on buying the MXT Pro but why won't they tell me it's weight? Talk about game playing.
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Whites being less than honest.......
- Thread starter Ivan
- Start date
Larry (IL)
Well-known member
If you call the factory, I'm sure they would tell you, I really don't think they are being less than truthful, the weight is just not a major issue for most of us. The balance of a detector is far more important to me than weight and the MXT series has great balance. There are things you can do to reduce the weight though from using an RNB battery pack to lighter coils if weight is problem.
Ivan, I don't know that White's is purposely hiding the weight of their detectors, but I will tell you with 100% surety that their detectors are perfectly balanced. I believe that the DFX, XLT, MXT, and V3i are all around four pounds. This sounds high compared to other brands, but with nearly ideal balance they all feel lighter than the actual weight. I have used every FBS Minelab and their specs show a lighter weight, but they do not compare to the balance of any of the Whites I have mentioned. I would not avoid a Whites detector because you can't find the weight. Good luck and let us know what you buy or decide.
Many other mfg.s could be "less than honest"(?) by omitting the headphone jack being on the "wrong" side, or "forgetting" to mention the detector has no volume control- the list goes on. The nearly 5 lb. weight of my CZ5 didn't affect it's performance, but nowadays would deter a lot of us older guys. Back then, I never gave it a second thought, but now I research it and Kellyco, as well as some of our other sponsors, note it- thus their importance. Also, as Larry said, my MX 5 is somewhat middleweight, but the balance is superb.
IDXMonster
Well-known member
My IDXPro is so well balanced that no other detector including my Explorer with ANY coil,my friends ATPro,my other friends GTP1350 or others is even CLOSE. It is an absolute PLEASURE to swing. Good luck with your purchase!
Kevin
Kevin
...or Minelab saying "Service, what's that?"
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Hi Tom,
You nailed the fact right on the head.
I live in Germany and there isn`t any shop that I know of that will service Minelabs.
My bud had to send his Sovereign GT back to Australia to get it fixed - by the time he got it back it took about 6 months and cost him a bundle of cash.
And this is after wasting a bunch of time with numerous so called "distributors" who either couldn´t do the work nor had any interest in it.
When I had probs with my XLT, I sent it to Whites in Inverness/Scottland and had it back within 2 weeks - free of charge beside postage.
This is what I call SERVICE.
hh
skookum
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Hi Tom,
You nailed the fact right on the head.
I live in Germany and there isn`t any shop that I know of that will service Minelabs.
My bud had to send his Sovereign GT back to Australia to get it fixed - by the time he got it back it took about 6 months and cost him a bundle of cash.
And this is after wasting a bunch of time with numerous so called "distributors" who either couldn´t do the work nor had any interest in it.
When I had probs with my XLT, I sent it to Whites in Inverness/Scottland and had it back within 2 weeks - free of charge beside postage.
This is what I call SERVICE.
hh
skookum
vito
Well-known member
Hey Ivan.
You do not have to go and search. Why are you going to get informations from forums like this if White's fans are abhorrent?
What did you expect from a forum related to White's?
Think you asked for help and you got it.
But another way may be to ask White's directly via (e)mail or give them a call. And I bet the honest staff will help you and answer all your questions without a delay.
regards
You do not have to go and search. Why are you going to get informations from forums like this if White's fans are abhorrent?
What did you expect from a forum related to White's?
Think you asked for help and you got it.
But another way may be to ask White's directly via (e)mail or give them a call. And I bet the honest staff will help you and answer all your questions without a delay.
regards
Ivan said:
sandbandit
Member
Started metal detecting in 1996, and I currently own 5 of White's machines - never had to send any of them back for service - ever! That's 19 years' worth of trouble-free metal detecting for me, and I hunt circles around other detectorists running different machines. There is a lot to be said about the quality of the products they make, and I'm sure a little research into the specs of any of their machines would have produced the answer you were looking for without insinuating that their company is "dishonest" in some way. My personal experience is that they are an outstanding company with excellent products - a simple phone call to customer service or technical support would have answered any question you may have had. Good luck to you!
Andy Sabisch
Active member
Odd lead in to the question you asked . . . accusing someone / a company of being dishonest is probably not the best way to start things out but regardless, advertised weights are suspect in many cases since some manufacturers do not include the coil while others do not include the batteries so are they being dishonest as well?
If you want to get a standard set of specifications across the brands, go to Kellyco's website and use their COMPARE function which lets you pick multiple detectors and see how they compare in all of the specs you are looking for.
The one thing that weight alone fails to tell you is how will it feel after a few hours in the field . . . two detectors that weigh the same can feel totally different based on how they are built. If you can, find a dealer or user in your area to see how it feels - often what you think is a great unit simply does not feel right when you get it in your hand. We have people come into the shop with a specific model in mind and when they hold it, they find themselves drawn to another one which fits them better.
Andy
If you want to get a standard set of specifications across the brands, go to Kellyco's website and use their COMPARE function which lets you pick multiple detectors and see how they compare in all of the specs you are looking for.
The one thing that weight alone fails to tell you is how will it feel after a few hours in the field . . . two detectors that weigh the same can feel totally different based on how they are built. If you can, find a dealer or user in your area to see how it feels - often what you think is a great unit simply does not feel right when you get it in your hand. We have people come into the shop with a specific model in mind and when they hold it, they find themselves drawn to another one which fits them better.
Andy
GroundScanner
Active member
A simple phone call away never ruin the day. White's would have no problem telling you or anyone what any of there machine weights are. Stop complaining and go detecting if you can. GS