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Which one and Why?

Rebel1

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For someone like me that is just getting started at this which one of these 3 detectors would be the best choice and why.
Garrett Ace 250
Tesoro Compadre
Tesoro Silver UMax
Or is there an even better choice? Thanks for any and all advice.
Right now i have a Bounty Hunter Discovery 2200 and have it figured out but want to upgrade
 
Ace 250 is metered but a entry level detector
Compadre is entry level tesoro
Silver umax only a little step up. No GB.....

Now thats not saying the ones listed will not work..They will..but so will your 2200..........if your ready to move up you may want to look a little higher on the scale. Minelab 303, 505.............MXT, M6 Whites, something more mid level.
 
That's fine but if you were to choose one of the 3 i listed which one and why is it better?
 
What you're asking, Rebel1, is for someone else to make a choice that only you can make. What is the best detector for me, or Elton, may not be what you want or need. When it comes to detectors, making a choice is very very subjective, and by asking someone else to make an objective assessment is to put them in a position which is virtually impossible for them. If you've been using your Bounty Hunter for a while, you should be gaining enough experience to set out a few questions (and answers for yourself). The machines you listed are all good machines, and will all do a good job...for someone. That someone may not be you. Your current machine may already do everything that any of the other machines you mention could do for you. Some of the questions you could ack youself are: How heavy can my machine be before it becomes uncomfortable for me to use?; Where do I want to use it? Do I want it to replace my current machine or complement it? What do I want to look for and find with my new machine? How deep do I want it to go, or how deep does it need to go? Do I want visual ID? Do I want tone ID? What ar the detecting conditions like (e.g. soil mineralisation) where I want to detect? Do I want (need) adjustable Ground Balance on the machine, or is pre-set GB good enough? These are some of the questions that spring to mind..the cost of the machine should not be paramount in you mind, but it will be relevant in the long run, and may govern whether you buy a new or second-hand machine. Warranty may also be important to you. I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cant give you a definitive answer. As I said, all the machines you mentioned are good, and they are popular. Whether they, or some other machine is the right one for you is a decision that only you can make. Good Luck.
 
Yea, ok. So, i want to find coins and jewelry (both gold and silver) in parks, school lots and at the beach. Any of the machines i asked about better than the others for those things?
 
Try them out and which is better for your reach. Narrow it down to the cumfort and then select from their auto settings. Check them on the web to see the details of each one. Check to see if they can be fitted with other coils. As for rating the three, it depends on where and how you plan to use them. I like the Garrett because I have used them in the past. If you are new to the hobby then also watch the price. Unfortunatly none of these would be my first choice.

Good Luck
 
I guess I would go with The Tesoro Silver Max out of the three. But thats me..Might not be what you want at all. See Furious T post..One of the best posts on new detector buying I have ever read..he gives excellent advice...........The why above entry level..Lifetime warranty if you find a new one. Reliable detecting, Light weight, and has good discrimination abilities. Very decent depth.
 
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Ok thanks to all of you. I guess it is my decision to make. I am at a toss up between the Ace 250 and the Compadre. I want to hunt coins and jewelry for the most part with an occasional trip to the beach. I also hunt the lake and river shores where people swim. Graphic ID is nice but not a must because i dig most every good signal hoping for Gold. Thanks again.
 
I'll jump in supporting the silver umax. Besides the features mentioned, there is a very complete coil selection available.
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Yea that was one thing i didn't like about the Compadre that you can't change coils on it. Ohh well. Will have to keep an eye out for a good deal on a Silver or maybe a Cibola even, although there is still that Ace. LOL
 
I have the Ace and the Silver. The Ace pulls me thru when I have to deal with tabs and don't have time to beep-dig, but is slower pinpointing and getting the target in the pouch! I've practiced many hours and have just about covered this problem. When I get to a schoolground or tot lot or any place that's medium trash-the Silver kicks booty. It's faster at recovery and lighter than the Ace. I'm glad I don't have to choose, but the Garrett would get the nod for just one detector because of the universal application. Now I have to tell you that I would pick MY Silver overall because I have added a tab check (voids warranty) and I can get close to the results of a notch detector. If Tesoro would apply the dual disc. as in the Tejon to the Silver it would be a no-brainer.
 
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Thanks Elton for those very kind words...Rebel 1, I wasn't trying to be a smart.....The three machines you mention are all good ones, but there are so many more out there, by Tesoro (of which I have a few, and love) and Garrett (of which I have one and hardly get to use),by Minelab (of which I have a couple and enjoy using), First Texas (Bounty Hunter, Fisher) of which I have 2 BH and am purchasing a Fisher at the present time. I could easily recommend all of the detectors I own as good detectors, so sometimes it is a matter of trial and error. A suggestion, before you make up your mind and buy (and I know how hard it is to be patient once you have made the decision to get a new detector), read as many articles as you can about the ones you are interested in, and others that you have heard of or seen mentioned here on the forums...You could look up the field tests on the Lost Treasure magazine website...that will give you a start..beg buy or borrow magazines from friends, or if none of your friends detect, see if there's a club near you....they might have their own library or members may be able to help you out with literature. You could contact retailers and ask them for any advertising blurbs on some of the detectors you're interested in...but remember, it is advertising and the manufacturers are only too happy to tell you that their machine is the best...however, you can pick up objective information such as features which are offered on a particular detector. This might sound like a lot of work, but it can be fun, and in the end, it will be you who have made the decision about which detector you buy, and for your own reasons, not someone else's. Good luck mate, I started off with the Bounty Hunter, my second machine was a Tesoro............Sapper.
 
FuriousT, thank you for all the Good advice. It is hard waiting but it may be the best thing in the long run. I am new at this and really have nothing to go by except the Discovery 2200 i have. It is ok but not really what i wanted. When i first decided i wanted a detector what i wanted was an Ace 250 but i got the Discovery for a lot less so took it instead. Wish now i would have gone ahead and got the Ace. But since then i have been hearing a lot of good things about the Tesoros and how good their discrimintation is and their recovery speed so though that might be my answer. But i have no idea how a person would know what to dig and not to dig with a single tone, no ID detector. But then that really isn't a big issue for me since i dig most every signal anyway hoping for gold jewelry. Anyway, thanks again for the help. Take care.
 
Get whites m6 used for around 450- 500 and when you get the cash by .s.e.f 10x12 coil. That make one nice coin detector for the price. Plus white serivce is one of the best out there.
 
Hi Rebel1, It is difficult when you're starting out...I dont know the features you have on the Discovery 2200. In Australia we dont get all the models that are available in the US. I started out with a machine that had visual target ID and tone ID as well. It was a good machine and I did OK with it (considering I was just starting). About 6 months after I bought my first machine I started looking at advertisements for other machines (Tesoros included) in our national treasure hunting magazine. Then I rang the Australian distributor for Tesoro and he gave me some information and also sent me a list of second-hand machines he had in stock. I bought a second-hand superceded model, which was single tone, no visual ID and preset ground balance. It was like starting again. The two machines I had were totally different, but I took to the Tesoro like a duck to water, dug lots of rubbish and junk, but also dug heaps more coins and other good stuff than I had with my first machine....I realised as time went on that I was really listening to the machine, rather than expecting it to do all the work. I wont bore you too much with my life's story...the point I'm making is that it is often a good idea to start off simply, learning the basics of the "trade". I think you are on the right track with the detectors you have nominated. You may have progressed past the stage where the Compadre will satisfy your needs in the near future. If you are contacting retailers, dont be afraid to ask about second-hand machines, and what warranty comes with them. You can buy all sorts of things on E Bay, but probably wont get a warranty with the goods (in this case, detector). You might pay a bit more from a reputable dealer, but if you get a warranty, then the extra paid might be worth it. When you make your enquiries, start a list, because some of the older models might be unknown to you. If you get details about the detectors, (e.g. when it was produced), it will make it easier when you are making enquiries about them or doing your research. Do not be afraid to telephone the companies themselves. I know the people at Tesoro used to be only too happy to talk to or correspond with customers and prospective customers. I'm sure the other companies would be only to happy to get your business as well. Try to acquaint yourself with the different terminology used in detecting and about detectors, so that if a sales rep. or someone else starts rabbiting on about this feature or that feature, you have some idea what they are talking about, and More importantly, you have some idea if they know what they are talking about. Dont forget to check these forums, all the forums. You may see older machines mentioned, and what some people thought of them...you'll have no trouble finding posts about current machines. Dont be put off by negative posts or feedback...do your own research and then make up your mind..remember that we all make mistakes, but if the mistake is ours, then we can learn from it. The longer you're involved in the hobby, the more confident you'll become, and it wont be long before you are helping out other newcomers to this great hobby.
 
Thank you again Furious T for taking the time to write all of this and explain some more to me. I am starting to think that the single tone detector might not be all that bad. The discovery has 4 tones + digital ID. I think i spend a lot of time messing with settings and listening for different tones than i do actually detecting. I have looked into some of the Fisher models now as well as MineLab and Garretts. Looking at a Tesoro Bandito II U max which sounds like it is pretty close to the Vaquero. Will see what turns up and try to find a few to even try out. Take care.
 
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