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Whew.. I'm beat...

Muddyshoes

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I was only out a couple hours today. There's a small school in my neighborhood built in the 1920s. It's the kind of cool, art nouveau building that you look at and say, "I'm gonna pull over here and metal detect there." Because it's in downtown Orlando, it's well known and has been well searched...mostly.

I've had several used detectors to try out there recently. I found one silver dime there some years ago, but wanted to try out these different detectors, each with my having less than 10 hours experience, so I was trying to adjust and get used to the GTA and GTI settings of the different detectors and display graphics and various bleeps and bloops. But getting used to new detectors was only part of the fun.

Hunting at this school in itself, is a technical challenge.

First, there are fairly shallow-laid gas and water lines and some kind of power lines underground in this circa early 1910-ish neighborhood, and you can pick them up as they go all along the grassy curb area.. The grass, while level with the curb making it seems like it's not built up, is pretty built up, with 10 year old coins down as far as 4 inches... if you can find them. Over the years there has been lots of work done on the building as it's been upgraded, and so the yards and curbs are full of pieces of copper wire, copper tubes, copper nuts, bolts and other pieces of tubing and metal that show up as coin-sized pennies.

And what's worse, as it's a southern early 20th century school, it's covered on all sides by lots of windows, and about 20 years, ago, they replaced all the wood windows with some kind of aluminum...window panes that were built on-site, so that means that the yards and curbs are full of bits and piece of this thick aluminum, which the GTI and GTA identifies mostly as anything from low penny to $1 coins, in terms of conductivity. As the pieces are chopped all different sizes, they show on the GTI as being U.S. coin sized, almost all of them. And because it's been 20 years ago with soft ground, lots of tree cover and leaves, these pieces range in depth from surface level to about 6-8 inches in places. The stuff is everywhere.

The playground, is raised about 2 feet up with loads of wood chips being dumped on the lot regularly with no hope of getting at the old stuff way down below there.

While I always get at least something there, this time I went with my new/used GTI 2000. That thing is more sensitive than any detector I've ever had.. so far. I turned sensitivity down to about 6 and I was still finding the most minute pieces of copper wires.. Gah.. it was frustrating. I even tried using the "surface elimination" feature of the GTI 2000 which allowed me to ignore anything within the first few inches of the ground where most of the aluminum pieces were.

I think of the 5 recent trips there with 3 different detectors and a total of 10 hours, I probably found maybe about $3 in coins, some keys, no wheats and no silver, and enough copper and aluminum to build a small ship.

What's frustrating is that I know there is silver there... it's an elementary school from the 20s, there has to be SOME left...right?

I think the fact that there is so much crap there is a good sign. Because it means other searchers have probably been as frustrated as I've been. And it means there is probably silver there waiting for someone with enough patience.

On the upside, I did get a chance to try my new Lesche digging tool which arrived today. What a beautiful thing. It is so manly, so medieval looking, and does a quick job of digging, even in fairly compacted soil.

Anyway, if my wheeling and dealing goes right, I'm about 10 days to two weeks away from having my first new detector in many years... And come hell or high water, I'm gonna pull at least a Merc out of that school yard one of these days...

- Muddyshoes
 
I am sure we all have places just like that one of yours. A place that is a challenge to work but has given us a real good find or two. I have a place like that, I keep going back, I've got two buff nickles, a silver dime and quarter, a silver ring and earring, and two silver bracelets...its the dangedest thing.. a no account trashed up middle school...its on the edge of a dubious part of town, but they still hold track meets there and have a porta-crapper set up so its convenient, and a great place to just keep sweeping and hitting various signals from years gone by..last weekend they moved the bleachers so they could mow! I whacked all sorts of clad, if it wasnt for that it would have been a mediocre day. So a fellow gets comfortable with a place and tells hisself theres gotta be a barber half, or a gold ring, or something left...anyway, I like your write up and can relate...HH
Mud
 
Muddyshoes said:
What's frustrating is that I know there is silver there... it's an elementary school from the 20s, there has to be SOME left...right?

I think the fact that there is so much crap there is a good sign. Because it means other searchers have probably been as frustrated as I've been. And it means there is probably silver there waiting for someone with enough patience.

- Muddyshoes
Uh... not necessarily. It is a common belief that because a place is old, it MUST have silver. Sorry - not so,.

For starters, kids back then didn't carry money to school like they do today. There was no need of it and back when a sandwich was a quarter and a meal cost $1, kids weren't given much money to tote around. It's possible, of course, that some was lost by parents, as schools were centers of the community. And we know people still find occasional silver in such places.
But it is widely scattered and the odds are not in your favor, simply because there is age on the place. For example, you have no idea how much renovation and earth moving has gone on. It's likely to have happened several times before you were even born. It usually occurs about every 20 years, give or take.

Second, detectors have been around for 45 years! The technology was pioneered in the 30's and the first hobby models came out in the early 60's. They soon became wildly popular, and in the 1960's there were more makers than you can count. The actual detection of metal is not really rocket science... and all that trash wasn't there back then.
It was sure bet that when you turned on a detector at a school you would find bottle caps, eraser ends, lead in various forms, ferrous junk and coins.
No pull tabs.
No window siding.
No foil balls.
No screw caps
I've heard the stories told by people who were detecting back then - they are like fairy tales. But there is a finite supply at any site, after all.
We are in the 4th Detector Age. This means that if you can see the place, then it is a cinch others with detectors have seen it too - and have thought the same as you .

Third, well.... there doesn't need to be a third.

As much as we like to "think positive," which is good, this is reality. There may indeed be a scattered bit of silver coin here, or there.
But the effort expended to get it may not be worth it, based purely on a return per hour basis.

Now, if you simply love to detect and don't care what you find, then that changes things....
 
Yeah, I know you're right... but a guy can dream, can't he? Besides, the searching is the fun part... the finds are just icing on the cake!

- Muddyshoes
 
Muddyshoes said:
Yeah, I know you're right... but a guy can dream, can't he? Besides, the searching is the fun part... the finds are just icing on the cake!

- Muddyshoes
Now, you're talking!
 
Good luck and HH. You never know what you will find and that is what makes this hobby so much fun. It's a big let down to get a good tone and find some junk, but when you find those nice coins or rings, it's all worthwhile.
 
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