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you are correct!..the xl pro with the 6" loop IS devastating on coins!
i have used that combo for a long time,and am still convinced that the detector is as good as any coin sniper out there..granted i have NOT tried the latest and greatest,however to tell you the truth,i don't feel as if i have to!.the xlpro with the "bullseye" or the "black max" on board IS as you so eloquently put it,a "coin killer!..(h.h!)
j.t.
i have used that combo for a long time,and am still convinced that the detector is as good as any coin sniper out there..granted i have NOT tried the latest and greatest,however to tell you the truth,i don't feel as if i have to!.the xlpro with the "bullseye" or the "black max" on board IS as you so eloquently put it,a "coin killer!..(h.h!)
j.t.
I took my 6000XL pro out a week ago for the first time since I got it and must say that I was digging some Extremely small items with the 5.3 Bullseye attached. I have the New F75 also but haven't had the opportunity to take it out as I have been under the weather since I received It. I can say that the Quality of the F75 is Excellent with the attention to detail as far as fit and finish is concerned. The
Digital Menu System is Fast and simple on the F75.Hopefully tommorrow
I will get the opportunity to test it out, if only the rain stops long enough.
Digital Menu System is Fast and simple on the F75.Hopefully tommorrow
I will get the opportunity to test it out, if only the rain stops long enough.
hello!..digger!
best of luck with the fisher!..the xl pro by design is a slower recovery detector,because it is a 4-pole design,however when the 5.3 is on board,it pretty much evens the field,and can slug it out with the most sophisticated digital processors in trash in my humble opinion,and lest we NOT forget,an experienced hunter who KNOWS his machine can make a difference!..i am very interested in the f-75,and am curiois to know IF it WILL change the game!..please keep us informed!...thanks!...(h.h!)
j.t.
best of luck with the fisher!..the xl pro by design is a slower recovery detector,because it is a 4-pole design,however when the 5.3 is on board,it pretty much evens the field,and can slug it out with the most sophisticated digital processors in trash in my humble opinion,and lest we NOT forget,an experienced hunter who KNOWS his machine can make a difference!..i am very interested in the f-75,and am curiois to know IF it WILL change the game!..please keep us informed!...thanks!...(h.h!)
j.t.
jmaryt
Just got in from my first hunt with the F75 and after it was all
over I thought to myself that the F75 and My 6000 XL pro's will be
all I need. let me say the F75 has "TONES" I mean in all metal Motion
and Static all metal as well as the various tones available in the discriminate. I think everyone should try this detector out for them selves and see what everyone is talking about. I'm glad I bought one
and I only have 2-3hrs on it so far....I will probably sell my Custom
mark-1. The Delta Pitch tone setting on the F75 is similiar to the Mark-1 audio.So no need for the Tek
The sensitivity on small item's is like my old Compass Gold scanner pro but with a stronger audio. I noticed the F75,even when set to lower sensitivity settings is deep, The audio just isn't as strong.
This detector will hit solid on a good target that is deep when the
sensitivity is set in the Upper range.
This detector seems to be several detectors in one with all the various modes as well as the settings. I havent even begin to check them all out. I feel I have a Very Versatile machine that will prove itself down the road when I get several hundred hours on it.
Just got in from my first hunt with the F75 and after it was all
over I thought to myself that the F75 and My 6000 XL pro's will be
all I need. let me say the F75 has "TONES" I mean in all metal Motion
and Static all metal as well as the various tones available in the discriminate. I think everyone should try this detector out for them selves and see what everyone is talking about. I'm glad I bought one
and I only have 2-3hrs on it so far....I will probably sell my Custom
mark-1. The Delta Pitch tone setting on the F75 is similiar to the Mark-1 audio.So no need for the Tek
The sensitivity on small item's is like my old Compass Gold scanner pro but with a stronger audio. I noticed the F75,even when set to lower sensitivity settings is deep, The audio just isn't as strong.
This detector will hit solid on a good target that is deep when the
sensitivity is set in the Upper range.
This detector seems to be several detectors in one with all the various modes as well as the settings. I havent even begin to check them all out. I feel I have a Very Versatile machine that will prove itself down the road when I get several hundred hours on it.
Is a fast sweep machine. Therefore is is not a slow response machine. I have not hunted much in the Dis. mode. I prefer the SAT mode and pull the trigger to the Dis audio mode. I usually set it to just a tad bit higher then nails. Talk about pulling stuff out of the iron trash. Plus you don't have to look at the meter all the time. If it is a good target the audio will beep since it is above the Dis. you have set. The ID is excellent in this mode and you can seperate better. 
: : OK back to Lurking, HH Jerry aka Tinfoil
: : OK back to Lurking, HH Jerry aka TinfoilOk! maybe I should clarify a little. The XLPro has a Wide response in the Discriminate mode as compared to a So Called two filter, and does not separate targets as good as a two filter machine in Extremely trashy area, so we called this a slow response to a target as compared to the two filters quicker separation capabilities. The sat mode is completely different in comparison.
motion Discriminate mode. White's Classic series is a 2-filter type ONLY in the Discriminate mode. When you're working that excellent XL Pro in the GEB Norm (no auto-tune) or GEB/SAT mode (auto-tune) it is the same as working a Classic III SL or IDX Pro, or Tesoro Bandido or any other make/model in a conventional ground balanced, All Metal mode. That is, there is no real function of the "filtering" in All Metal.
Thus, in general terms, the XL Pro, WHEN IN THE MOTION DISCRIMINATE MODE, is a 4-filter type and by design they have a longer "ring time." That's the descriptive term describing how long a signal will "ring on" until it recovers and restores itself in order to respond to another target. Oh, it can still respond to a target during this "ring time", but the operator will not usually hear it because a 4-filter detector, by design, is not a quick response and recovery circuit.
Knowledgeable operators know, however, that by going to a smaller search coil, such as the excellent 6
Thus, in general terms, the XL Pro, WHEN IN THE MOTION DISCRIMINATE MODE, is a 4-filter type and by design they have a longer "ring time." That's the descriptive term describing how long a signal will "ring on" until it recovers and restores itself in order to respond to another target. Oh, it can still respond to a target during this "ring time", but the operator will not usually hear it because a 4-filter detector, by design, is not a quick response and recovery circuit.
Knowledgeable operators know, however, that by going to a smaller search coil, such as the excellent 6
the detector will recover from target to target faster tinfoil!
yes!..if you have the small coil on board then the detector WILL recover faster from target to target,however the 4 filter design usually responds more slowly from target to target,AGAIN unless the small coil is used,then really all bets are off as it WILL respond more similarly to performance to a two filter design!..i believe that whitey designed it this way so as a four-pole or four filter designed circuit WILL go deeper than a two filter detector all factors being equal!..also as you are aware if you sweep faster than depth ALSO is increased with the four -pole circuit!
regards!
(h.h!)
j.t.
yes!..if you have the small coil on board then the detector WILL recover faster from target to target,however the 4 filter design usually responds more slowly from target to target,AGAIN unless the small coil is used,then really all bets are off as it WILL respond more similarly to performance to a two filter design!..i believe that whitey designed it this way so as a four-pole or four filter designed circuit WILL go deeper than a two filter detector all factors being equal!..also as you are aware if you sweep faster than depth ALSO is increased with the four -pole circuit!
regards!
(h.h!)
j.t.
hi monte!
i WAS referring to the g.e.b disc mode,and i stand corrected on that point!..as you stated and i agree,when using the bullseye or the black max just kick up the signal balance as hot as she will run for the soil conditions accounted,and as you are already aware,the pro will match any two-pole design for recovery speed in a trashy environment!..generally what makes this detector unique is it's ability to PROPERLY id coins at depth!..i have been using one for years,and quite frankly continue to be amazed at how accurate that
analog meter is!..as i have stated before,and i'll say it again,for what is was designed to do,it IS one of the best damn "coin snipers" ever built!
(h.h!)
j.t.
i WAS referring to the g.e.b disc mode,and i stand corrected on that point!..as you stated and i agree,when using the bullseye or the black max just kick up the signal balance as hot as she will run for the soil conditions accounted,and as you are already aware,the pro will match any two-pole design for recovery speed in a trashy environment!..generally what makes this detector unique is it's ability to PROPERLY id coins at depth!..i have been using one for years,and quite frankly continue to be amazed at how accurate that
analog meter is!..as i have stated before,and i'll say it again,for what is was designed to do,it IS one of the best damn "coin snipers" ever built!
(h.h!)
j.t.
I ran a XLT for so many years wore one out and got another one in place of it. Should have remembered about how four filters work. Been a long time since I ran 4 filters You guys are right. I have been using the 5.3" and the 3.5" most of the time and the recovery time is fast using these coils just like you guys say . I like the little 4X6 also. I sort of got used to the GEB SAT. mode. I G/B in Norm and Dis. sweep over some clear ground then lock the G/B. Then turn it to GEB SAT Mode. I don't know how many of you guys have used this Mode for hunting in the Iron trash but it works great for me. I even get good depth in the TR MODE if you G/B to the mineralization. This is one fine machine. The ID is outstanding. In the Sat Mode you can swing slower in the trash and wiggle it around with the small coils especially the 3.5" and shooter coil and litterly ID the good stuff right in there with the bad stuff. You get a little more longer (delay) ID in the SAT. Mode then you do in the Norm Mode. The TR mineralization mode you have to keep pulling the trigger to get the Threshold to come back. I have not played with the TR mineralization Mode much to really see what it can do. Seems the target ID will stay longer in the Sat mode over a target and the threshold recovers real fast. I can cruise along in the Sat Mode and just pull the trigger to get a good Dis. audio for ID of good target above what I have Dis out depending where I got the Dis set. Usually just put it above nails. This mode I have found to be the Deepest I think. What do you guys think is the deepest Mode on the 6000"s?????. I say SAT Mode. It is real embarrassing that I have not used the Dis. Mode very much. I like the bottle cap reject when I am in a area that requires it. Otherwise just run in Accept. I can run wide open MAX Sen. with all 4 of the coils. I am sorry to say I have not used the 9.5" coil yet to see how much Sen. I can run and to find out how deep it will go in the Different Modes. Just been having a lot of fun in that Sat. Mode. Thanks guys for clearing things up for me. The 6000XLPRO is one fine machine and mine is not going anywhere other then hunting with me. : : HH Jerry aka Tinfoil
: : HH Jerry aka TinfoilTin foil
If you like the SAT Mode on the XL Pro You would love the One on the
New F75,It even has tone's.. I used it most of the time on my first
outing with the Fisher last sunday! I sold my Compass Gold Scanner pro
and havent regretted it at all and I only have 3hrs on the fisher so far.Between my Two XL Pro's (one for my brother) and the Fisher F75
I pretty well have it covered. I think my Custom Mark-1 Ltd will take
a trip to the classifieds....
If you like the SAT Mode on the XL Pro You would love the One on the
New F75,It even has tone's.. I used it most of the time on my first
outing with the Fisher last sunday! I sold my Compass Gold Scanner pro
and havent regretted it at all and I only have 3hrs on the fisher so far.Between my Two XL Pro's (one for my brother) and the Fisher F75
I pretty well have it covered. I think my Custom Mark-1 Ltd will take
a trip to the classifieds....
Machine that does not provide a small coil. So I like a lot of people are waiting for First Texas to do what they say they will do and that is come out with a small coil. I told my buddy that is going to send me the F75 that is the way it is going to be. If I owned a T2 which I don't I would be Pissed. I am already mad about the X70 no small coil and got sucked into the ID Excell. Both are Excellent machines but no small coil. My Dealer buddy has told me that There are a lot of guys that are waiting on the small coil then they like me will buy the new F75. They can hype that F75 up all they want to but without a small coil it is no good to me just as it is no good for a lot of guys that hunt like I do. I know the F75 is a good Machine but it won't be bought by me till I can get the small coil PERIOD. I refused to be Chumped again. Have fun with the F75 and I read all you guys Posts on the new machine. HH : : Jerry aka Tinfoil
: : Jerry aka Tinfoilseems like you already know the ins and outs of this great detector!
yes!..the way you are running it in trash IS the correct operating procedure in heavy trash!.one should not be afraid to run it in s.a.t mode!..your operating depth is better,AND you can use that "dead nuts" accurate meter to best advantage!.i am sure you have noticed how well balanced the detector is when the 5.3 is on board!..its just ajoy to swing,and you can snap your wrists while swweeping fast too!
i usually lock the gb too to prevent any possibility of the detector tuning out targets as it balances the ground in automatic!..this IS possible because the gb circuit used on the pro IS aslightly older design,and doesn't balance any changes in the mineralization as quickly as say a newer gb circuit on the mxt,or the m6...all in all though,this detector in the hands of an experienced user who knows how to get the most out of it,will "beat" hell out of even the most sophisticated processors!..this "old?" girl CAN really hunt!
yes!..the way you are running it in trash IS the correct operating procedure in heavy trash!.one should not be afraid to run it in s.a.t mode!..your operating depth is better,AND you can use that "dead nuts" accurate meter to best advantage!.i am sure you have noticed how well balanced the detector is when the 5.3 is on board!..its just ajoy to swing,and you can snap your wrists while swweeping fast too!
i usually lock the gb too to prevent any possibility of the detector tuning out targets as it balances the ground in automatic!..this IS possible because the gb circuit used on the pro IS aslightly older design,and doesn't balance any changes in the mineralization as quickly as say a newer gb circuit on the mxt,or the m6...all in all though,this detector in the hands of an experienced user who knows how to get the most out of it,will "beat" hell out of even the most sophisticated processors!..this "old?" girl CAN really hunt!
I am kind of chomping at the bits but without a small coil it would see too much trash in some areas. Even the T-2 owners want a smaller coil, yes it is a good detector but is limited by one coil.The Manufacturers when making these newer detectors didn't think they would get the reaction they got from people that use detectors regularly. I realize that a new design makes it impossible to use current coils on the market or maybe they want to cash in on selling coils too, if that is the case, they need to be ready with the small coils when introducing new detectors. I hear that sometime this year a small coil will be released for the F75, hope that is the case.