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When you are in a slump, sometimes you gotta change up your game

Eric in RI

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Lately I have been in a silver slump. Pounded park is starting to get harder and harder to pull silver on a consistent basis. I had about an hour of daylight left today and I was itching to get some silver. I decided to head over to the park down the road that I've found silver at in the past on several occasions. I don't normally hunt this park because it is bottle cap city, but figured the 5x8 might help me with that. I arrived at the park and was geared up by 3:45. I started working the picnic area of the field near the edges of the woods. I had the AT Pro in Pro Zero mode, 0 disc, sensitivity 2 bars below max. I slowly worked my way in a straight line from one end of the field to the other. After several flattened screw caps in my pouch I finally started finding some pennies. I came across a faint high tone next to what seemed like a pull tab. Normally on my machine a pull tab will read where it should, but once you start getting to the edge of the signal with the coil, the tone will jump from a mid-tone to a high-tone. I will always isolate the high tone from one direction, turn 90 degrees and swing over it the other way. If I get a mid tone in the other direction, 99.9% of the time it is trash. Well, I isolated the faint high tone one way and it was reading 83 - 85, I turned 90 degrees and swung over it and the tone stayed the same! I eagerly cut a plug and flipped it over. I looked in the edge of the hole and seen a dirty dime standing straight up. I took it out and gave it a quick wipe to reveal a 41 Merc! It appears that it was hit by a lawnmower some time ago. I covered up the hole and swept over the area again and just for the heck of it, I dug the pull tab signal next to the Merc just to reassure myself I wasn't missing an old nickel, which I didn't :)

I could see that the sun was down past the horizon and I was getting limited on my hunt time. I decided to just cherry pick for the next 20 minutes before I had to pack it up. A few clad quarters and pennies later, I came across a shallow high-tone. It read 82-83 from both directions and I remember saying aloud, probably just a penny or a clad dime. I found the target with the pro-pointer and pulled a nice .925 sterling earring. The part that loops into the ear is broken, hence why it was lost :) I decided after 2 silvers in 1 hour and the fact I couldn't see anymore, it was time to head out.

The moral of today's hunt is the 5x8 coil is excellent in trashy parks and if you are in a silver slump, change up spots from where you usually hunt. In my case, it was going to another trashy park :) HH!
 
I'm still learning my new 5x8 and I don't know if it's me of all 5x8s do this but it reads higher on stuff, mostly coins, and I don't remember the stock big one doing that. I keep finding it reads higher with coins buried shallow or surface drops. Pennies are reading 82 to 84. Is that normal? Most all coin denominations read higher.
 
It's always nice to open up a new post and see silver staring back up at you. ;) And, switch coils is like using a totally different metal detector.
 
Copper pennies that are deep tend to bounce around a bit. Silver is usually spot on. Are you hunting in a trashy area or clean ground?
 
Not trashy at all. I get excited when I see a solid 84, cause I've dug rings in that range and it's always a penny. But that's only the really shallow ones. I'm gonna keep working this coil and eventually I'll get use to the vdi numbers. I dig any high tone for the most parts unless it's a can or I can tell if it's a screw top.
 
Personally, I notice that the coil produces loud scratchy tones when I swing over a surface find too closely. Try raising the coil an inch higher when you come across a high tone and checking the #'s again. I usually swing 2 inches over the ground, only because a lot of the terrain I hunt is uneven and littered with rocks.

Quite honestly my machine and my buddy's AT Pro are pretty similar with the #'s. Most 83 - 84 signals on the 5x8 and the 8x11 are silver dimes. I don't find too many silver quarters, but I dug a deep Barber quarter that came up 85 on the 8x11. Clad quarters read 87-88 on my 5x8, same with my buddy. Copper pennies tend to jump around when they are deeper. Most times if I see 80 - 82 bounce around, I know I got either a memorial or a wheat. Indians ring up low 70's on my 5x8. Zinc pennies come up 75-76 on the surface and if they were dropped recently. Corroded zinc pennies can read all the way down to the mid 60's. V-nickels and buffalo nickels that are 4 - 6" come up either a constant 51 - 53, or bounce from 52 - 68, same with war nickels in that depth range. I suspect nickels bounce around if they are standing on edge. I never dug a half dollar with the AT Pro, but my buddy found 2 in the same week once. I think they came up 92 on the 8x11. Clad dimes are usually 78-82 on my 5x8.

I know John from Edmonton has mentioned that the concentric coils have more stable #'s than the DD coils do, whereas the DD coils are better at target separation in trashy areas.

Another thing that might add to the increase in #'s, are you hunting in wet ground? What do you typically ground balance at in your area? In my area, I usually ground balance around 88 in clean farm fields, woods and 92 - 95 in trashy parks.

Hope this info helps. Feel free to PM me anytime. I'm always willing to help out any forum member, especially when it comes to the 5x8 coil. HH!
 
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