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Wheat to silver ratio?

M

marcomo

Well-known member
In Michael Chaplan's excellent book, The Urban Treasure Hunter, he said the expected wheat to silver ratio when detecting is 6 to 1.

A couple weeks ago I actually counted mine.

It was 7.06:1 which is lower than I would have guessed before I counted.

I'm curious as to what ratio others here are finding?
 
I just figured mine out the other night.
I have been finding silver fairly regular lately.
My ratio is 2.9 to 1 as of right now.
I was surprised that it was that low.
I guess it's that close since I haven't been finding as many wheaties lately.
Felix
 
8 or 9 to 1
Guess I better pick up the pace

HH
Jeff
 
Mtnmn said:
Mine is 13 to 1. Am sure if the silver had been there I would have found it...
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that is exactly what I use to say, until Mark in SE IA convinced me I was walking right over silver, told me if there was wheats there, most likely silver was there too. After I started doing what he said I started bringing home silver almost every hunt.
 
76 wheats to 34 silver this year, all public spots. pretty good at 2.2 : 1
 
Have no doubt I've walked over a lot of silver, but will still say very little of it was shallower than any of the wheats I've found. Do intend to get the 10.5" DD coil for its depth, though I keep hoping that ML will eventually come out with something that is both larger and lighter. For now will keep having a blast with the little 6" DD HF coil. The ratio with it is a respectable 3 to 1. A fourth wheat was a visual find.
 
I wrote that my ratio was 2.9:1... actually, it is a little higher than I first figured.
I recounted my silver and wheat pennies and found that my average is 3.8:1.... 150 wheat pennies and 39 silver coins.
Sorry about the mistake before, but I guess I still ain't doin' bad for a rookie!
Just trying to keep things on the up and up.. don't know how I got the other figure.
Felix
 
Goes4ever said:
Mtnmn said:
Mine is 13 to 1. Am sure if the silver had been there I would have found it...
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that is exactly what I use to say, until Mark in SE IA convinced me I was walking right over silver, told me if there was wheats there, most likely silver was there too. After I started doing what he said I started bringing home silver almost every hunt.
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So help us beginers out a bit what did he tell ya.

HH
Jeff
 
ok here is the info I pm'd Felix...........take it for what u want, I know 100% this works for me, I was finding tons of wheats but VERY little silver till I took Mark's advice, now I get silver almost everytime I go out, believe it or not

ok I never would believe it but Mark convinced me that if I QUIT using all metal mode, and use the factory pre-set pattern one I would find more silver. I argued with him, but he was so right, I hunt almost all old schools and houses, all have a lot of iron. When in all metal you here all those iron grunts and totally miss all the deep silver signals mixed in. I did not believe him. Well against my will I went to an old school put it in pattern one and covered some ground I had ALREADY hunted in all metal. That day I pulled 4 silver dimes and almost everyone had iron in the hole with them. I walked right over them before because in all metal all I heard was the iron grunt but in pattern one, all I heard was the sweet high tone of silver (I run 4 tone or multi tone)
try it and tell me what you think, Mark promised me I was walking right over silver and boy was he right. Like I said before rarely do I come home w/o silver now.
 
Thanks G4e for writing that up. It saved me from making a long post, lol.

A few things that I would like to add. Swing speed is very important. DO NOT swing your coil any faster then a 3 to 4 second swing speed. If you swing your coil at a 1 to 2 second speed then your most likely not doing to pickup the deep silver. 2, Keep your coil as close to the ground as you can. 3, If your getting a tone that is being chopped off, then switch to AM and see how it sounds.
 
wait till I gets pics of todays hunt up....people are not gonna believe it. 28 wheats and 10 silvers today. If I had been in all metal I would not have got half that, this house was from 1859, and had so much trash and iron it was unreal.......well it had 150 years worth of trash! It took me about 5 minutes to locate a metal free area to even GB over....it was that bad.
plus I got a buffalo, 3 indians and a 1865 2 center :thumbup:
yard is about 60% done, I was with my hunting partner and we are going back tomorrow to try and finish it, we have to creep along because of all the trash. But I think it is well worth it!

swinging low and slow is so important as Mark pointed out
 
Something that I forgot to say. This advice is for people that have a higher then a 6 to 1 ratio. If your ratio is low then 6 to 1 then keep doing what your doing because it's working.

It sounds like you had a GREAT day G4e. I'm looking forward to the pictures.
 
if I remeber right I was at about 12 to 1 when u gave me these tips this spring, now after today I am sitting at 5.05 to 1
 
I appreciate reading everyone's opinion of what works for them. Frankly, that is one of the main purposes of this forum. With that said, in my opinion, I don't think hitting deep silver depends on the number of audio sounds (or lack there-of) as much as it depends on the sweep speed and controlling the direction of the sweeps. But here are the reasons I like to hear all the information I can. In the all metal - multiple tone mode, I hear an audio response from every target that the coil passes over. 28 different tones representing targets from each of the 28 notch segments. In a Pattern mode, the Threshold goes away, and I hear a nulling (no sound) when the coil passes over any target (or targets) being discriminated out. If you are using Pattern One (default settings) you lose all sound as the coil passes over any target or targets with a TID of 48, -2, -4, -6 or -8. That silence sounds the same no matter what the TID value is of the rejected target or targets. By hearing both "bad signals" and "good signals", I can determine when there are multiple adjacent "bad" targets. If all I got was silence as the coil passed over all the "bad targets" (regardless of what rejected notch segment they were represented by), I might not be able to determine just how many "bad targets" were adjacent to the good target. By knowing the number of and location of those "bad" targets, I can control my sweep to better isolate the keepers.
If hearing all those sounds becomes overwhelming to the point it is confusing, then using a Pattern where you hear "nothing" on rejected targets (instead of a variety of low tones), might be the best way to go. But keep in mind that those longer "nulling" periods could represent multiple rejected targets surrounding a "deep keeper". By utilizing the all metal - multiple tone mode, I hear everything under the coil and I let my ears sort out what to dig and what to leave behind. But again, that is just my opinion. Whatever works best for you is what you should stick to! For those who are still undecided, I'd suggest laying out some coins and trash, (vary the distance between each target), try both methods, and see how the target separation compares between Pattern mode and all metal - with multiple tones. HH Randy
 
laying out trash and coins is good advice Randy, people should try it both ways and see what works best for them. For me I just found out pattern one worked for me, when in all metal I was indeed walking right over silver and not hearing it for all the iron.
 
Thanks G4e and Mark,
I will do it. There is no way I will argue with success. Work all weekend but Tuesday I'll go pull some silvers, you guys will be proud.
Thanks Again
Jeff
 
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