CW(SC) said:
Tom Slick said:
I would never take a shovel like pictured above to a park or school. I use a shovel like that when hunting barren ground or out in the desert or woods, never on a lawn or the grass.
Tom,,just because you never do it,does not make you right either..We need leaders hear not followers.CW
Leaders here, not followers!
Many of these people here have been here for a LONG time, many of them like Tom Slick have been in the public eye of detecting for near 40 years, former detector dealer, ect... Now just maybe they are some good leaders here and the problem is there isn't enough followers, seems there is a good number of people that just won't take good advise, people that will go out and do the opposite of good sound advice just to prove they can.
The general consensus here from hundreds of members and posters is that the relic digging tools should be left to what their originally intended purpose is, relic digging.
Yes, they are a few people here that use the long handled diggers in parks and such, but they are very few.
The more public areas that get shut down to metal detecting the more squeezed the people feel that truly love the hobby. Passers by's seeing people with shovels digging up their parks (I know its ours two) gets a bad idea of whats going on. The people that maintenance this area my not have a problem with it, but they in time conform to complaints of the public, then the area gets closed to metal detecting.
Story after story, picture after picture of signs stating "No Metal Detecting" in areas were people had freely detected for years. It hasn't hit you yet, but if you really love the hobby and for any reason your favorite area gets banned from detecting then you'll feel what many others on here has felt.
And remember this is a public viewed forum and in any one day hundreds of thousands of lurkers (non members) read and view the post here. So, when we post something here its not just between you and I, or just the few members that might be following this topic, but thousands of unseen eyes are here as well.
So, to best keep this hobby in a good light the seasoned members here will advise as much as possible to things and ways to preserve the hobby and direct people in way as to not draw bad attention to the hobby.
Many years ago my brother and I was in town hunting next to the city park (the grass area between the sidewalk and the curb of a house) well I was probing for a target, I had my little probe in the tiny hole and the index finger of the other hand in the same little hole (no dirt out of the hole).
So, here comes a local land owner and he comes by be first, stops, looks at me and I look at him and he goes on down a little ways to where my brother is. Now, this wasn't good, my brother had a plug out of a hole and some lose dirt laying on a ground cloth. Guess what? trouble!
See, my brother and I both knew that the curb area isn't owned by the home owner of the house that the curb is in front (its public property), well that didn't go over very well. The police were called, we were pulled over to the side and told what we already knew, but the officer stated that it would be much better if we found another place to hunt. So, what was the difference here? the guy goes by me because I wasn't digging a hole in what he thought was his property, my brother was even though he was really doing it right.
I'm not new here, but I'm not a forum veteran either. But I have watched enough digging tool topics come across the forum to be able to tell how they all end.
Large Relic Digging Tools Are A Bad Idea In Public Places!
The tool I made below don't just make a better cut, it makes a perfect cut and puts it back perfect, but I don't use it in any public areas, its a bad idea!
Mark