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What's the best and deepest coin hunting machine in the Garrett line up?
- Thread starter landman
- Start date
I have never seen an AT Pro up close. I have a GTI 2500 and a Gold Bug Pro. The GTI 2500 in all metal is a monster. I have the 9.5" imaging coil. The ID and imaging work on the fly while in all metal. I have turned the imaging off while searching and only use it with the pinpoint held. It is very good at eliminating some of the obvious larger targets. Obvious only due to the imaging feature. There are a few more ultra deep targets in my yard that are highly suspect of being deep coins. I'll be digging these up this weekend to confirm. If they are coins I'll be completely sold on this detector which has already amazed me. The only popular detectors that have not been in my yard is the AT Pro or AT Gold and some of the White's detectors. My hunting buddies have always been Minelab guys except for one of them that still keeps chugging along with his ACE 250. He actually does better than me on the clad and shallow stuff.
[size=large]But.....How Deep Is That Metal Detector?[/size]
[size=medium]First of all, it's very difficult to answer that question, if not impossible. The answer really is "it depends"
The following all play a significant role, and in combination will always give varying results:
-size of a target-> the larger the target, the deeper a target can be recognized.
-conductivity-> aluminum vs. copper vs. gold. vs. iron vs. silver. Some rings, with size & mass being equal can be detected deeper then others.
-size of coil-> general rule says "larger coil = deeper depth however, add a lot of conductive particles, metal junk and high mineralization to the matrix, and the large coil becomes redundant.
-type of coil-> DD vs.concentric vs. mono. Each coil has a definite advantage over the other under different conditions
-frequency of signal from coil-> higher frequency usually (but not always) is more sensitive to tinier objects.
-VLF vs. Pulse Induction-> Pulse induction can easily pick up a dropped mini or gold ring with a medium sized coil 15-20" whereas a VLF might get about half that all other things being equal.
-Humidity, moisture in soil, orientation of target to the coil
--ability of the to perceive the receiving frequency from a coil and distinguish it's conductivity, depth, size etc.
-operator - properly setting up the electonic components based on knowledge and experiences
There are many more variables in involved affecting depth.....the above are just some of the more obvious ones. So really, YOU need to figure out what you are looking for ie. relics vs. jewelery vs. common coins vs. deep copper/silver coins. You also need to know the soil conditions and other factors in YOUR area where you are going to hunt. Lots of electronic interference from above ground or below will make some of the most expensive machines useless, unless you turn the sensitivity way down, which often times reduces your depth considerably. Same goes with extremely high mineralization like in Australia or red clay oxidized clays in North America areas. VLF may really struggle under these conditions, yet a PI (pulse induction) will punch down deep with no trouble.
So.....how deep is the Pro? It is as deep in some instances and deeper in other instances and perhaps not as good as machines costing sometimes more then twice the cost of the . Throw on the 9 x 12 concentric coil in good ground and you have a very deep detector with great ID capabilities. Use the DD 8.5" x 12" coil in heavier mineralized soil, and it outperforms even the larger coil I just mentioned. Put on the 5" x 8" coil and you can easily pick out the good targets beside and often time underneath junk targets, while still getting great depth.
You want a simple, cost effective yet very productive coin/jewelry hunter Garrett has it - http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_euro_ace_main.aspx
You want a machine for caches buried in feet, not inches - Garrett has it - http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_searchcoil_tech_sheet.aspx
You want extreme depth for water or land, check out the Garrett Infinium - http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_infinium_main.aspx
You want a great all around machine for good depth + Salt or freshwater hunting (waterproof) Check out the At Pro - http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_at_pro_international_main.aspx
You want to hunt common coins with sizing ability, check out the GTI Series- http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_gti2500_main_international.aspx
Why should depth not be the most important factor for purchasing a metal detector? Because depth is only relative to certain conditions. Most targets are in the top 6 inches anyway, so why do you need to go down to 15-20"? In places like salt water or areas with a lot of deep junk rusty targets, the large coil on your $1,500.00 machine is practically useless, and when set up to it's maximum potential in these areas, will only give you say 4-5 inches. If somebody is trying to sell you an expensive detector, that they say is the deepest machine, you had better turn around and run fast....as that equates with someone trying to sell you a a parcel of land in a swamp. There is no 'DEEPEST" machine....it simply doesn't exist. But there are BEST configurations of a metal detector type for any given matrix of soil.
Choose wisely![/size]
[size=medium]First of all, it's very difficult to answer that question, if not impossible. The answer really is "it depends"
The following all play a significant role, and in combination will always give varying results:
-size of a target-> the larger the target, the deeper a target can be recognized.
-conductivity-> aluminum vs. copper vs. gold. vs. iron vs. silver. Some rings, with size & mass being equal can be detected deeper then others.
-size of coil-> general rule says "larger coil = deeper depth however, add a lot of conductive particles, metal junk and high mineralization to the matrix, and the large coil becomes redundant.
-type of coil-> DD vs.concentric vs. mono. Each coil has a definite advantage over the other under different conditions
-frequency of signal from coil-> higher frequency usually (but not always) is more sensitive to tinier objects.
-VLF vs. Pulse Induction-> Pulse induction can easily pick up a dropped mini or gold ring with a medium sized coil 15-20" whereas a VLF might get about half that all other things being equal.
-Humidity, moisture in soil, orientation of target to the coil
--ability of the to perceive the receiving frequency from a coil and distinguish it's conductivity, depth, size etc.
-operator - properly setting up the electonic components based on knowledge and experiences
There are many more variables in involved affecting depth.....the above are just some of the more obvious ones. So really, YOU need to figure out what you are looking for ie. relics vs. jewelery vs. common coins vs. deep copper/silver coins. You also need to know the soil conditions and other factors in YOUR area where you are going to hunt. Lots of electronic interference from above ground or below will make some of the most expensive machines useless, unless you turn the sensitivity way down, which often times reduces your depth considerably. Same goes with extremely high mineralization like in Australia or red clay oxidized clays in North America areas. VLF may really struggle under these conditions, yet a PI (pulse induction) will punch down deep with no trouble.
So.....how deep is the Pro? It is as deep in some instances and deeper in other instances and perhaps not as good as machines costing sometimes more then twice the cost of the . Throw on the 9 x 12 concentric coil in good ground and you have a very deep detector with great ID capabilities. Use the DD 8.5" x 12" coil in heavier mineralized soil, and it outperforms even the larger coil I just mentioned. Put on the 5" x 8" coil and you can easily pick out the good targets beside and often time underneath junk targets, while still getting great depth.
You want a simple, cost effective yet very productive coin/jewelry hunter Garrett has it - http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_euro_ace_main.aspx
You want a machine for caches buried in feet, not inches - Garrett has it - http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_searchcoil_tech_sheet.aspx
You want extreme depth for water or land, check out the Garrett Infinium - http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_infinium_main.aspx
You want a great all around machine for good depth + Salt or freshwater hunting (waterproof) Check out the At Pro - http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_at_pro_international_main.aspx
You want to hunt common coins with sizing ability, check out the GTI Series- http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_gti2500_main_international.aspx
Why should depth not be the most important factor for purchasing a metal detector? Because depth is only relative to certain conditions. Most targets are in the top 6 inches anyway, so why do you need to go down to 15-20"? In places like salt water or areas with a lot of deep junk rusty targets, the large coil on your $1,500.00 machine is practically useless, and when set up to it's maximum potential in these areas, will only give you say 4-5 inches. If somebody is trying to sell you an expensive detector, that they say is the deepest machine, you had better turn around and run fast....as that equates with someone trying to sell you a a parcel of land in a swamp. There is no 'DEEPEST" machine....it simply doesn't exist. But there are BEST configurations of a metal detector type for any given matrix of soil.
Choose wisely![/size]
Dancer
Well-known member
slingshot said:
You know Sling, I can't argue with you on that. Now there's places some other machines are better suited for, But dollar for dollar, that Ace 250 is something you just have to have.
What about the aftermarket large coils for the Ace , anyone hunt with one? I'd get one, but they almost cost what the Ace costs itself.
Now the AT Pro is hard to beat, but an Ace mounted with a large coil, well that would be a match under ordinary conditions. Heck, my brother gives me fits with his Ace every time we hunt together.
Patriot 1776
New member
landman said:
I feel the Garrett ATX is the best for deep treasure hunting