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what would you guys do

moray hunter

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what do you guys think.. three years ago i got permission to detect a promising set of fields and they proved more than promising and started to turn up hammered roman brooches etc. so i asked my friend if he would like to join me ,after clearing it with the land owner ,who said its up to you who you take on, on outings to the field . the first year was ok we went out together and had mixed fortunes finding the odd hammy and bits of medieval. then last year once more hammys and roman coins appeared and things changed and my friend whose unemployed was spending hours day after day systematically searching field after field. then this year he started where he finished ,out day after day again systematically detecting the hot spots . being in employment myself and not being able to detect everyday i think its a bit greedy ,now i have never grudged him finding items but having done the research getting permission i feel i have been taken for a ride as he has not even tried for permission elsewhere . so today i told him that enough is enough and that he has now no permission to detect these fields ,
what would you guys have done
 
Same thing as you!
 
Moray Hunter don't worry about it.There will be more places and treasures for you.Next time do it alone,you really can't trust anyone,it is the way it is.I take a dude hunting with me all the time,he hides bottles he finds in his coat and all kinds of crazy stuff.Thank goodness he has not learned the metal detector that well,because he knows all my spots.I caught him in one of my spots last month.I really don't care.The treasure is the fun of using a metal detector and being outdoors.Just go alone because people see one thing,The Root Of All Evil.
 
When I take someone hunting with me on private property that I got permission to hunt, they know that they are my guest, and they can only hunt on it when I invite them to come with me because I tell them so. I'm nice about it and there are no misunderstandings of the rules.
 
I agree with you Moray. You were given permission on private land so you set the rules for your guests. Your friend took advantage (perhaps without thinking) of your generosity.
 
I would have done the same but to say don't trust anyone is kind of a drag.
I have a great time hunting with friends and seeing what we all find.
He took advantage of your kindness that's the kind of person he is .
 
--- the chap wasn't trying to deliberately stiff you, although at some point one would think it might dawn on him, you know?

I agree that since you cleared the path, you should have a say in who hunts there. He should also have been required to check with the owner on his outings.

He ALSO should have let you know and found out your stance on the matter.

Should you have cut him off? I would have spoken to him about it first and then done something like that, yes.
 
I have a friend that I hunt with and when she invites me to a privately owned place, I would NEVER think of going without her. That is just plain rude. Now if it was a public place she had invited me to then I wouldn't think twice about going back on my own.
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I make sure to spell out the rules, in a friendly way, they are welcome to come on hunts with me, but not to hunt on their own on private land I have permission setup on. That way there is no room for misunderstandings later on.

anyway, you did the right thing and shouldn't feel bad about it.
 
I gather from your description of the finds you were making that you come from a land where there are strict rules on what happens to historic stuff found....if he is so unconscionable as to go back without mentioning it to you and without checking with you that it is o.k, who knows what other rules he is breaking....and guess who could get most of the blame if he does the wrong thing? You did the right thing in telling him not to go back...it is private land, and, according to the facts as given by you, he has no arrangement with the landowner, you do.
 
After a year of hunting the site with you and a lot after he lost his job,he may be on better terms with the land owner than you.There are other places to hunt and I wouldn't put the land owner between this argument if he knows your friend.Who knows the land owner may either ban both of you or pick your friend to hunt the site instead of you.I would have started looking for other sites this was self inflicted by inviting your friend to the site,but after a year you are too late.Good Luck Ron
 
Personally I applaud your actions as only common courtesy to hunt together as you originally got permission...The old story show someone your favorite trout hole and before you know it will have a lot of company fishing...
 
There is a un written rule that if you find the place it is yours, public or not. If you do the work to find the place then you should be the owner in a seance. granted if it was a public park and you saw other detectorists there you couldn't do much about it. but amongst all of my detecting friends if you find the area that has the potential for being productive than it is your spot and they should respect that as if it was your own back yard. I have no problem telling my detector friends that they can go anywhere I have permission with or without me. but this guy should have the respect to not detect without you, or at least ask. having a spot you can return to over and over is as good as gold in my eyes, people shouldn't more or less sneak in and find all of the good stuff with out you.
 
Just an added two cents...common sense make you the one who has dibs but...I can understand how your friend could loose track of "that". If he has hunted it a bunch with you, familiarity with the site, could dampen that. An upfront agreement would have made things easier now but...If he's a good friend, mention it to him and maybe he could back off till you can go with.
 
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