What is your absolute LAST group of settings before you render a site "DONE"

[IDXMonster]

Last gasp settings and technique? I've got a few sites I need to let go,but before I do I want to know,to the best of my current ability and ability of the CTX, that I've done my due diligence. I'm not a "go hunt just because" hunter,I require results of some kind. I don't dig signals that don't have a chance,that's what I have the CTX for! What is your "go to" last gasp setup before you never go back? Keep in mind this is related to SILVER COIN HUNTING and NOTHING ELSE.
Thanks in advance for the input!

 

[masterjedi]

When you have used multiple detectors and coils on each. CTX 3030, Whites MXT, Fisher F75, Etrac... no kidding... Its what I do...

 

[Architex]

When you have used multiple detectors and coils on each. CTX 3030, Whites MXT, Fisher F75, Etrac... no kidding... Its what I do...

Me too, Deus, V3i, all used with my max stable settings.

 

[jim tn]

Yeah, as mentioned, multi detectors, and then realize no site is truly ever hunted out. HH jim tn

 

[D&P-OR]

Yep!! (and coils)

Yeah, as mentioned, multi detectors, and then realize no site is truly ever hunted out. HH jim tn

 

[david.di]

I am very sure that when I run a slightly altered 50 tone conductive changed to ground coin separation with Response Long and Recovery Deep, Gain at 30

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with the 17 inch coil on a clean, not so trashy site with manual sensitivity set as high as possible, I usually stop at 28-29 ( I don't put the earplugs I use in my ear , so it's bearable.
I feel that I am sanitizing the site.
It gets to a stage that the only signals I can hear are those that blank out the Threshold and they now get thoroughly inspected until I am satisfied that there is not that they may be hiding or that they are out of the detectable range.
This I do by digging them.
So I say maybe it's going to be a case in some instances to dig the target despite what I thought t might be that I was detecting and get a surprise that it was a good target that was worth digging.

I have been to the same site with stock 11inch , coiltek elliptical and Minelab 6 inch and have been surprised that I have in fact NOT cleared out

BUT I have also done the reverse where I have been there firstly with the smaller coils and finishing off with the 17 inch......

I go by what Digger says:

"You'll never know for sure......unless you dig it!"

Happy Hunting

David Di

 

[mrwilburino]

For deep targets: high manual sens & gain, low trash setting, combined mode with open screen, fairly high fe line on the ferrous bin, 17" coil if not too trashy.

For really trashy areas: sens & gain as appropriate, high trash setting, fast-on, combined mode with open screen, 6" coil. If lots of ferrous trash; might use auto sense and ferrous coin setting. Follow up with stock coil.

 

[IDXMonster]

All EXCELLENT advice guys thank you very much! Will check back later...

 

[mcb613]

Its really a matter of how much time you have, how much patience and how many sites you have that aren't hunted out.
I see members will often state " never hunted out", however, do you want to find those last 2 silvers in a 10 acre plot.
I'm more of a common sense kinda guy, with reasonable expectations. I do get to a point where 2 huntsvwithout a decent target, gets pushed to the reserve list.
I will say this, 4 weeks ago or so, I obtained petmission to hunt a very old, but post colonial site that had been picked for nearly 3 years, to end up plucking an 1830 Bust dime. I have hunted ot 3-4 times since with no real luck.
Guess I found 1 of the two silvers left in thst 10 acres.
Moral of the story, hunt till its intolerable or you have a plethera of fresh spots to go.

 

[mrsspk]

I just put the CTX back in the truck and pull out the Deus!

 

[mrwilburino]

I just put the CTX back in the truck and pull out the Deus!

I've found silver with both machines that the other somehow missed.

Like another poster said - "multiple detectors and coils."

 

[sube]

Well #1 I would lower my fe line to 32 The reason being that if you don't get a high tone for a 29.45 if set at say 28 for your Fe line your not going to stop and check it .Any coin nail combo that comes in at 33 to 35.45 `or ground coin combo is going low anyways so 32 is where I set my fee line .The ctx well not go high when the Fe of the coin is 33 to 35 if it's 32 it well go high . So if your Fe line is set at 28 and you hit a 28.45 a little off from center you well get a low if your dead on the target it well go high but if your set at 32 being off from the center of the target it well still go high giving you a target to check out .

Here's how I would hunt a area I pounded your noise channel say being set at 6 that the ctx picked is not the best for high conductors . Let's take for example one channel set at 1 you get 22kHz set at a 11 you get 27 kHz or set at 1 you get 2.5kHz and 11 you get 7.5kHz you see there's a 5 kHz difference in the two settings .Now the ctx well pick the most noise free channel but it is not the best for SILVER it's trying to make all signals good low and high conductors at the same time Now #1 would be best for silver and 11 would be the worst channel but would be great for gold and nickels . Lets take for example my ctx wants to run at 6 for noise cancel I can pick 4 which would be better for silver than 6 or pick 8 which would be better for nickels and still be close to what the machine is wanting for noise cancel . Now if I was to pick 1 when the ctx said 6 I would get more noise but at the same time better for silver than 4 . Now with that noise more ground noise sparks and chatter that silver that wasn't heard at 6 well be there so you need your gain set at 26 or higher to hear all the signals at the same level this is where your computer take over the one between your ears .

I have hunted the same ground most times my ctx picks 6 but when I go a different day it well pick 9 one day when it picked 9 I found 4 Indians in a spot I had found none before did I miss them no just was running a different freq the day I found them different noise channel .

As for ground balance there is no way that the ctx can keep a perfect ground balance it's all a compromise auto if it truly kept up it would not be lowering your sensitivity to get rid of the noise if it did keep up your sensitivity #s would stay the same your in clean ground it's running great no ground noise then you hit rust iron flakes and so your #s don't change till you have been in it for a while so what was the ctx running at before the #s change you guess it running with to much sensitivity fore that ground all you got was more noise but still got the same depth before entering the said hot area .Now the #s change and the depth change because the ctx wants to run quite at the cost of those deeper targets .

To have a chance at what's left fe line set at 32 open screen fast on not deep on processer speed is to slow all not used icons closed out top of screen geo target trace wi -fi and so on they all consume processer speed have you ever notice where you could not get a vid no matter what you did well that's because the processer is overloaded and can't keep up what helps is slowing done but you want as much processer speed as you can get . Now when I go to pinpoint sizing I have target trace enabled to check targets which dose not slow my processer down in normal hunting .

Or run all metal pinpoint sizing with just target trace enabled this well cut down most of the spark and chatter and leave you to only check true signals instead of ground noise and other high chirps which consumes time . So in the end those noises the ctx is trying to eliminate ground balance sparks and chatter all take processer speed so you might as well listen to it and pick the good from the bad instead of having fringe targets deaden by the ctx .If it's not sparking and chattering it's not giving you the full picture .How long your brain can keep up is for you to decide .

Then again you could just let the ctx pick every thing for you and just run in a factory program nice and quite and pass on all those other signals . But that's why they leave it open for you to program it's your choice running factory programs or learning new things by running it different .

Or just wait till your machine runs at a different noise channel and hit it again or give it a year and see what nature well do to release more signals than when you were there before . A good read ( metal detecting world ctx ) sube

 

[IDXMonster]

I just put the CTX back in the truck and pull out the Deus!

Besides that....

 

[IDXMonster]

Well #1 I would lower my fe line to 32 The reason being that if you don't get a high tone for a 29.45 if set at say 28 for your Fe line your not going to stop and check it .Any coin nail combo that comes in at 33 to 35.45 `or ground coin combo is going low anyways so 32 is where I set my fee line .The ctx well not go high when the Fe of the coin is 33 to 35 if it's 32 it well go high . So if your Fe line is set at 28 and you hit a 28.45 a little off from center you well get a low if your dead on the target it well go high but if your set at 32 being off from the center of the target it well still go high giving you a target to check out .

Here's how I would hunt a area I pounded your noise channel say being set at 6 that the ctx picked is not the best for high conductors . Let's take for example one channel set at 1 you get 22kHz set at a 11 you get 27 kHz or set at 1 you get 2.5kHz and 11 you get 7.5kHz you see there's a 5 kHz difference in the two settings .Now the ctx well pick the most noise free channel but it is not the best for SILVER it's trying to make all signals good low and high conductors at the same time Now #1 would be best for silver and 11 would be the worst channel but would be great for gold and nickels . Lets take for example my ctx wants to run at 6 for noise cancel I can pick 4 which would be better for silver than 6 or pick 8 which would be better for nickels and still be close to what the machine is wanting for noise cancel . Now if I was to pick 1 when the ctx said 6 I would get more noise but at the same time better for silver than 4 . Now with that noise more ground noise sparks and chatter that silver that wasn't heard at 6 well be there so you need your gain set at 26 or higher to hear all the signals at the same level this is where your computer take over the one between your ears .

I have hunted the same ground most times my ctx picks 6 but when I go a different day it well pick 9 one day when it picked 9 I found 4 Indians in a spot I had found none before did I miss them no just was running a different freq the day I found them different noise channel .

As for ground balance there is no way that the ctx can keep a perfect ground balance it's all a compromise auto if it truly kept up it would not be lowering your sensitivity to get rid of the noise if it did keep up your sensitivity #s would stay the same your in clean ground it's running great no ground noise then you hit rust iron flakes and so your #s don't change till you have been in it for a while so what was the ctx running at before the #s change you guess it running with to much sensitivity fore that ground all you got was more noise but still got the same depth before entering the said hot area .Now the #s change and the depth change because the ctx wants to run quite at the cost of those deeper targets .

To have a chance at what's left fe line set at 32 open screen fast on not deep on processer speed is to slow all not used icons closed out top of screen geo target trace wi -fi and so on they all consume processer speed have you ever notice where you could not get a vid no matter what you did well that's because the processer is overloaded and can't keep up what helps is slowing done but you want as much processer speed as you can get . Now when I go to pinpoint sizing I have target trace enabled to check targets which dose not slow my processer down in normal hunting .

Or run all metal pinpoint sizing with just target trace enabled this well cut down most of the spark and chatter and leave you to only check true signals instead of ground noise and other high chirps which consumes time . So in the end those noises the ctx is trying to eliminate ground balance sparks and chatter all take processer speed so you might as well listen to it and pick the good from the bad instead of having fringe targets deaden by the ctx .If it's not sparking and chattering it's not giving you the full picture .How long your brain can keep up is for you to decide .

Then again you could just let the ctx pick every thing for you and just run in a factory program nice and quite and pass on all those other signals . But that's why they leave it open for you to program it's your choice running factory programs or learning new things by running it different .

Or just wait till your machine runs at a different noise channel and hit it again or give it a year and see what nature well do to release more signals than when you were there before . A good read ( metal detecting world ctx ) sube

This is why I need to get up there and hunt with you. There are so many sites around that I have that are logistically "dead" but I have a feeling I am the limiting factor and need more advanced mentoring to get to the weird ones. Thanks for the info again Sube,I'll try to wrap my head at least part way around it till I can head north...

 

[brother steve]

I don't think a site is ever completely hunted out. You could give it a rest and go back and find more stuff. The ground constantly shifts and moves things around. You wont find as much and you will have to work harder, but there will always be something there. You may learn a new setting on your machine or maybe there will be a new improved ctx? I feel you can never say its hunted out. Walk away for a year or two and try again.

 

[IDXMonster]

I don't think a site is ever completely hunted out. You could give it a rest and go back and find more stuff. The ground constantly shifts and moves things around. You wont find as much and you will have to work harder, but there will always be something there. You may learn a new setting on your machine or maybe there will be a new improved ctx? I feel you can never say its hunted out. Walk away for a year or two and try again.

Absolutely good points Steve. Walking back into it with a fresh mind after awhile can in itself be a huge help. Around here we do have frost heaving and such,so that's a real thing to consider. It makes a guy really listen for ANYTHING!