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What is the difference?
- Thread starter mdowling
- Start date
MarkCZ
Well-known member
mdowling said:
The CZ-3d is a revised version of the CZ-5 (both of these are analog detectors)
The CZ-6 doesn't have a built in speaker and isn't hip mountable, but is digital.. The CZ-7 is near the same detector but has a built in speaker. (I think the CZ-6 was supposed to be a little better sealed against water) I believe both of these ran on AA batteries. Also the CZ-7 is a digital detector as well.
The CZ-7a Pro, was hip mountable, ran on two 9 volt batteries, has a built in speaker, and is digital.
I think ALL the CZ's were three audio tone detectors up until the CZ-70 they added a forth tone to it.
The CZ-70 ended the CZ series except for the CZ-3d that's the one that First Texas held on to.
After the CZ-70 ended it looks like they split the line. Two detectors came out that used the same control housing, membrane touch pads and that was the Coinstrike and the Gold Strike these two are so close to the same detector it isn't funny, the main difference between them is,
Elliptical coil for the Gold Strike,
Concentric for the Coinstrike,
Both used numeric ID meters,
They left the notch discrimination out of the Gold strike and the Gold Strike ran at a much higher frequency than the Coinstrike.
Some of the manual for the Gold Strike is better written for the Coinstrike than the Coinstrike manual is.
Then came the ID Excel and the ID edge (these were out about the same time).
Now I'm sure that somebody on the forum will come along and fine tune my post but its a pretty good start.
Hope this helps!
Mark
MarkCZ
Well-known member
And to my knowledge the CZ-5 started the CZ series.
The CZ-70 ended it,
First Texas for some reason used the CZ-5 (probably due to it reputation) for their current version CZ-3D) Its controversial between the two as to which one is the better machine, some say the CZ-3D is better, but others will say that First Texas ruined the CZ-5 by messing around with the electronics and calling it the CZ-3D.
Below is the order of them from the best of my memory,
CZ-5
CZ-6 - CZ-7
CZ-7a Pro
CZ-70
CZ-3D
Mark
The CZ-70 ended it,
First Texas for some reason used the CZ-5 (probably due to it reputation) for their current version CZ-3D) Its controversial between the two as to which one is the better machine, some say the CZ-3D is better, but others will say that First Texas ruined the CZ-5 by messing around with the electronics and calling it the CZ-3D.
Below is the order of them from the best of my memory,
CZ-5
CZ-6 - CZ-7
CZ-7a Pro
CZ-70
CZ-3D
Mark
The CZ6 came first, and had a different pin design than the future models. It was then made into a CZ6a with the 5 pin connectors. The CZ5 came after, and used the coil connectors of the CZ6a...along with all the other CZ's. That is why you can use CZ coils on any CZ model EXCEPT the orignal CZ6....they will all fit and work since they all run on the same 2 frequencies.
The CZ 5 has a internal speaker...the CZ6a does not, hence it being more weather resistant and splash proof than the CZ5.
The CZ6, CZ6a, CZ5 are analog and take 2 9V batteries. They have a linear based discrimination ( no notching) and a meter based ID system.
The first digital CZ I believe was the CZ7a, which I think took 12 AA batteries in a pack mounted under the arm cuff of the rod assembly. Due to that design, you could not hip mount it. Those who used it stated it was a very balanced detector and you could run over 50-60 hours on that pack. CZ7a went to the CZ7a Pro, which I think went back to the 9V batteries, and then to the CZ70. Not sure when in the line the CZ's went from 3 tone to 4 tone...I think with the CZ7a Pro but not sure. The digital CZ's have the ability to notch out certain targets.
The CZ3D is back to the same design as the CZ5, except with 4 tones and an Enhanced mode ( as opposed to a Normal and Salt mode for all the other CZ's...not including the waterproof CZ20 and CZ21 which are locked in salt mode) for bringing older coins that would ID as mid tone on standard CZ's, into the high tone category. Enhanced mode is mainly used in older sites with less trash, because it will also bring some trash items that would ID as mid tone on a standard CZ, into the high tone range.
Hoped this helped, and I could be wrong on certain aspects. If you do a search, I think someone posted a listing in chronological order, of all the CZ's made.
The CZ 5 has a internal speaker...the CZ6a does not, hence it being more weather resistant and splash proof than the CZ5.
The CZ6, CZ6a, CZ5 are analog and take 2 9V batteries. They have a linear based discrimination ( no notching) and a meter based ID system.
The first digital CZ I believe was the CZ7a, which I think took 12 AA batteries in a pack mounted under the arm cuff of the rod assembly. Due to that design, you could not hip mount it. Those who used it stated it was a very balanced detector and you could run over 50-60 hours on that pack. CZ7a went to the CZ7a Pro, which I think went back to the 9V batteries, and then to the CZ70. Not sure when in the line the CZ's went from 3 tone to 4 tone...I think with the CZ7a Pro but not sure. The digital CZ's have the ability to notch out certain targets.
The CZ3D is back to the same design as the CZ5, except with 4 tones and an Enhanced mode ( as opposed to a Normal and Salt mode for all the other CZ's...not including the waterproof CZ20 and CZ21 which are locked in salt mode) for bringing older coins that would ID as mid tone on standard CZ's, into the high tone category. Enhanced mode is mainly used in older sites with less trash, because it will also bring some trash items that would ID as mid tone on a standard CZ, into the high tone range.
Hoped this helped, and I could be wrong on certain aspects. If you do a search, I think someone posted a listing in chronological order, of all the CZ's made.
Nice brief explanation but CZ7 was the first digital but used batteries in storage and had a slow pinpoint and this was corrected by the CZ7A..
CZ7 and 7A with 12 AA batteries under the armcup gave approx. 80-90 hrs depending on how much pinpointing you did and whether you used the meter light which caused more drain on the battery pack..an ounce or two heavier than other CZ's but ergonomics and weighting superior to all other CZ due to Batteries under armcup....even though a rodmount only...
CZ70 pro was the first to have the 4th tone and square tab facet was renamed relic...
As far as differences of CZ3D the only one in production rel previous analog CZ's Tom Dankowski has an article which explains it fully and no simple explanation of differences in changed facets in the enhanced mode..and a good read for new CZ3D owners...Google for info....
CZ7 and 7A with 12 AA batteries under the armcup gave approx. 80-90 hrs depending on how much pinpointing you did and whether you used the meter light which caused more drain on the battery pack..an ounce or two heavier than other CZ's but ergonomics and weighting superior to all other CZ due to Batteries under armcup....even though a rodmount only...
CZ70 pro was the first to have the 4th tone and square tab facet was renamed relic...
As far as differences of CZ3D the only one in production rel previous analog CZ's Tom Dankowski has an article which explains it fully and no simple explanation of differences in changed facets in the enhanced mode..and a good read for new CZ3D owners...Google for info....
BJ in Okla.
Active member
Re: CZ evolution
Posted by: NASA-Tom (IP Logged)
Date: December 14, 2007 07:41AM
Hi Pips,
Original CZ was a CZ-6; released in the Fall of 1991. Proto's had been running around since Fall of 1990.... and had been on the Dave Johnson drawing board and test bench since 1986. ((( Dave never felt he truly 'completed' the project.... as his time & funds were FRL restricted ))). Then; CZ-5 was released in 1992 (slightly lower cost unit for more folks to afford).
CZ-7 = Fall, 1996
CZ-7a = Spring, 1998
CZ-7a Pro = Summer, 1998
CZ-70 Pro = Sept. 2001
CZ-3D = Feb. 2004
The CZ-6 was; analog, rainproof/splashproof/dustproof... no external speaker.
The CZ-5 was; analog, NOT rain/splash/dustproof.... had external speaker.
The 7, 7a, 7a Pro & 70 were digital and rainproof/splashproof/dustproof.
The 7, 7a had "AA" batteries under arm-cup. (7a corrected a battery drain problem).
7a Pro & 70 used a pair of 9V in control box.
CZ-3D was; analog, NOT rain/splash/dustproof.... has external speaker.
Depth capabilities have been nearly identical since inception; with a couple of minor exceptions = CZ-70's were set-up so as to authorize a little bit of 'overdrive' in the Sensitivity dept. When Sens was set at '6' or above, the detector might become slightly chattery/unstable. Some areas could handle this; hence, this performance availability. The CZ-3D was also set up in this fashion; but, in addition, it will ID deeper coins (and other targets) with greater ID accuracy. I chose the NON-rainproof/dustproof/splashproof box config for the CZ-3D so as to allow more folks to afford the unit...... and analog platform as most prefer this config. --The CZ-20 is a analog CZ-5 in a 250' deep capable underwater unit.
Interesting that no unit has been able to trump the depth capabilities of the CZ platform in most applications.
IN A NUTSHELL!
Posted by: NASA-Tom (IP Logged)
Date: December 14, 2007 07:41AM
Hi Pips,
Original CZ was a CZ-6; released in the Fall of 1991. Proto's had been running around since Fall of 1990.... and had been on the Dave Johnson drawing board and test bench since 1986. ((( Dave never felt he truly 'completed' the project.... as his time & funds were FRL restricted ))). Then; CZ-5 was released in 1992 (slightly lower cost unit for more folks to afford).
CZ-7 = Fall, 1996
CZ-7a = Spring, 1998
CZ-7a Pro = Summer, 1998
CZ-70 Pro = Sept. 2001
CZ-3D = Feb. 2004
The CZ-6 was; analog, rainproof/splashproof/dustproof... no external speaker.
The CZ-5 was; analog, NOT rain/splash/dustproof.... had external speaker.
The 7, 7a, 7a Pro & 70 were digital and rainproof/splashproof/dustproof.
The 7, 7a had "AA" batteries under arm-cup. (7a corrected a battery drain problem).
7a Pro & 70 used a pair of 9V in control box.
CZ-3D was; analog, NOT rain/splash/dustproof.... has external speaker.
Depth capabilities have been nearly identical since inception; with a couple of minor exceptions = CZ-70's were set-up so as to authorize a little bit of 'overdrive' in the Sensitivity dept. When Sens was set at '6' or above, the detector might become slightly chattery/unstable. Some areas could handle this; hence, this performance availability. The CZ-3D was also set up in this fashion; but, in addition, it will ID deeper coins (and other targets) with greater ID accuracy. I chose the NON-rainproof/dustproof/splashproof box config for the CZ-3D so as to allow more folks to afford the unit...... and analog platform as most prefer this config. --The CZ-20 is a analog CZ-5 in a 250' deep capable underwater unit.
Interesting that no unit has been able to trump the depth capabilities of the CZ platform in most applications.
IN A NUTSHELL!
newbieshooter
New member
BJ in Okla. said:
That's a great nutshell, now insert for me where the CZ20 and CZ21 come in and I will be a happy camper! LOL