What is the best "Classic" Fisher for the wet sand?

[harvdog42]

Hello All,

I have had my 1265 since I bought it new...I'm not sure how many years ago. I'll never part with it. My P.I. went on the blink today so I broke out my trusty 1265 to hunt the beach. The 1265 is an awesome dry sand detector with good but not great depth. But it comes up a little short in the wet. The black sand and salt water are a little difficult to deal with ...but not impossible. I haven't used the detector in quite some time but I realized today why I'll never part with it. Once you are in tune with the feedback the detector is giving you it gets in your blood and you'll never forget it. I've found more with the 1265 on the beach than all other detectors combined and I've owned quite a few. I guess some things in detecting are unexplainable. I tried hunting with a Whites P.I. The depth of that machine was unbelievable but I never found anything with it so I sold it and went back to the 1265. I immediately started finding the good stuff. I can't explain it.

Anyhow, to get back to my point, I would maybe like to buy a classic that responds similar to the 1265 but has a little more depth and salt/black sand tolerance. What do you suggest?

Harvdog

 

[Dan-Pa.]

Any CZ model, preferrably a weather resistant model for the enviroment will do well. Along with Sov. are the best for that type hunting...

 

[therover]

I never used a 1265 so not sure how it sounds, but I do know CZ's are great beach machines. I would say look for a used CZ5, 6a, 70 with stock coil. I have been running my stock coil on the beaches more than the bigger coils and finding LOTS of coins, silver and small targets...DEEP too. You can scrub the stock coil on the sand without falsing and pin pointing is dead on.

The other option if you need it waterproof is the CZ20 if you can find one.

 

[therover]

n/t

 

[harvdog42]

OK Thanks guys. There is a CZ6 on Ebay right now. The guy has the auction setup for "buy it now" or best offer. What do you think a fair offer would be?

Harvdog

 

[Dan-Pa.]

CZ6 is circa 1992-1993 and was replaced by the CZ6A after a year or so because a new type coil connector failed on many..Right now expensive to get changed over to a CZ6A with new connector and CZ6 coils are impossible to find...Suggestion::Look for a CZ6A up or one of the models after...

 

[harvdog42]

OK Dan Thanks,

I owe you one.

Harvdog

 

[harvdog42]

No one has mentioned how the CZ3D handles wet sand/black sand. I primarily hunt the beaches and would be using this unit for beach hunting. Has anybody had much experience on the beach using this unit? I am a pretty much dig everything kind of guy on the beach but once in awhile the fish hooks seem to breed near a pier I hunt and I would like to be able to discriminate them out sometimes. I've read that the CZ3D has trouble discriminating out nails....but what about fish hooks and bobby pins? Any info would really be appreciated.

Harvdog

 

[Up to my ____ in Pulltabs Grant]

CZ 20 if you can find one.
Hands down for sensitivity and depth on the beach.
Handles wet sand the best out of all the CZ's.

All VLF detectors have issues with black sand. All of them.
I don't want to hear anything about how great the ML's are because they will have problems too.
A Pulse Induction unit is the only way to completely beat black sand but you will dig everything at enormous depths.

CZ3D has a salt switch for wet sand. It will only lose slight sensitivity compared to others. You can run it pretty hot in wet sand.

CZ20 and CZ3D would not be my only choices for the beach but out of the CZ, these would be it.

The CZ3D has issues with nails but only for those people who refuse to move around the target to get a fix on it.
If the hunter changes his orientation with regards to the target, moves around the target 20 - 60 degrees and swings the coil on the target again, they will dig less nails.

All detectors will get fooled by nails in some situations. Square nails will fool the best of them. Its because of the sharp square edges of these damned things, they will sound off like coins sometimes. If you move around the target you'll get the iron bell to sound off. I've gotten used to the tone difference so most of the time I can tell by the decay and duration of the tone on the 3D when I've got a nail trying to fool me.

 

[Tinfoil]

n/t

 

[harvdog42]

I came a across a used CZ20 with an 8" coil that looks to be in very good condtion but I haven't checked it out yet. My concern is that since I hip mount everything now in my old age and the CZ20 is hardwired, would the cable be more susceptable to damage from constant flexing? In my experience from hip mounting, I think the cable/connector would be the weak link. Then the repair costs to fix the cable correctly would be high. Is this a valid concern? I'm leaning toward a CZ with interchangeable coils just for this reason although I like the waterproof aspect of the CZ20.

Harvdog

 

[Kieth-Tx]

I have had my CZ-20 for quite a few years now. Have ALWAYS used mine in a hip-mount....no breakage issues so far. The only problem with it in a hip-mount is....it floats. So when I am out wading at hip level water....it is constantly moving with the waves, still no biggee. If the water is deeper or shallower...it is not an issue. When using the CZ-20 in the water, I set the disc to 0 which puts it in an all-metal type mode which gives it a bigger footprint. When it senses a signal...I turn the switch to 1 which automatically gives you 3 tones and you can decide to dig or not. This scenerio works best in non-trashy areas. HH'ing Kieth

 

[kaptainkosmic]

Kieth, I think you mean auto tune. 0 is still in discriminate mode and you will hear all 3 tones, which includes iron. in position 1 you knock out iron.

Steve

 

[Kieth-Tx]

Right you are Grasshoppa!!! I was headed to a meeting and typed too fast!!! LOL Have you ever used this method? I learned it from a guy in Jupiter Florida.