What is better? The G2 or T2 in Iron Infested Sites?

[Tony N (Michigan)]

What is the better coin shooter in iron infested sited? The G2 or the T2?


I have quite a few detectors, all top of the line. I buried a coin next to and below the level of an undisturbed small piece of iron.

None of my detectors can hit on that coin. I have Minelabs, Deus, Tesoros and other detectors. I'm not saying these are bad detectors.

I have found coins with them mixed in with iron square cut nails. But I am wondering what I'm missing.

I did a Google search on the best detector for coinshooting in iron infested sites and someone said the Teknetics G2 is best for that.


Any ideas? This is a sincere question and not meant to be a "My detector is better than your detector." They all have their strengths and weaknesses.

 

[lytle78]

The G2 and the T2 are noted relic/nugget detecting machines. Neither would be my first choice I’d silver coins are your main target. An Ameritech Patriot (the same as a Fisher F70) would be a better choice in the First Texas stable.

 

[Mega]

On my really trashy roman/saxon sites here in the UK the weapon of choice is my 'original' T2,but this is just my personal opinion it not all about what detector you own or use but the size of the coil on said machine,in my case the main coil i use is the brilliant 5'' coil,that is what it was designed for sites that have alot of iron infestation,another coil that i also use is the NEL Snake 6.5x3.5 both work well at target separation.

Coil size is paramount when detecting trashy iron laden sites,far more important than the detector itself,if the going gets extreme then i even use a smaller 4'' coil on another detector,so you dont get depth but when using say a stock size coil you will suffer from 'nulled' signals anyway and will miss a tremendous amount of possible decent targets.

My personal take on it coil size is far more important,the smaller the better.

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

[size=large]Here on this old farm site in Michigan I live on, the old iron square cut nails from the very early 1800's
litter the front, back and side yards from when they took apart the original house board by board, nail by nail
and tossed all the nails into the yards by the thousands.

Most of these nails are deeper than a foot. The soil is sandy so things tend to sink. I once pulled out a buffalo nickel
that measured from the tip of my fingers almost to my elbow. That is 17 inches. Fortunate for me, no iron nails were
blocking that coin.

So most likely a small coil is not going to be helpful in getting down to the depths I need to get past the iron nails.[/size]


I guess I may just have to wait for them to make a detector that actually sees through iron nails. But I'll be dead by then.

 

[jim tn]

Grap yourself and Omega 8000 with the 10" concentric. The Omega loves silver and that concentric really is deadly in trash and iron. It has made a believer out of me. And my hunting buddy, too. HH jim tn

 

[jak135]

Being sandy, remove the nails. Take a patch at a time, dig, turn it over and then use a nail rake. I made one out of a wide push broom by cutting off the bristles and screwing neodymium magnets to it.

I used 60 lb magnets every couple of inches.

just an idea.

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

Being sandy, remove the nails. Take a patch at a time, dig, turn it over and then use a nail rake. I made one out of a wide push broom by cutting off the bristles and screwing neodymium magnets to it.

I used 60 lb magnets every couple of inches.

just an idea.

I wish it was possible to rent one of those huge magnets they life cars up in the junk yard to compact them. That would do the trick!

 

[D&P-OR]

Careful Tony----You'll lift your house off the foundation & the nails will still be there! (my idea of humor anyway)

Being sandy, remove the nails. Take a patch at a time, dig, turn it over and then use a nail rake. I made one out of a wide push broom by cutting off the bristles and screwing neodymium magnets to it.

I used 60 lb magnets every couple of inches.

just an idea.

I wish it was possible to rent one of those huge magnets they life cars up in the junk yard to compact them. That would do the trick!

 

[dfmike]

On my really trashy roman/saxon sites here in the UK the weapon of choice is my 'original' T2,but this is just my personal opinion it not all about what detector you own or use but the size of the coil on said machine,in my case the main coil i use is the brilliant 5'' coil,that is what it was designed for sites that have alot of iron infestation,another coil that i also use is the NEL Snake 6.5x3.5 both work well at target separation.

Coil size is paramount when detecting trashy iron laden sites,far more important than the detector itself,if the going gets extreme then i even use a smaller 4'' coil on another detector,so you dont get depth but when using say a stock size coil you will suffer from 'nulled' signals anyway and will miss a tremendous amount of possible decent targets.

My personal take on it coil size is far more important,the smaller the better.

I'm with Mega on this. Take an already good-in-iron detector and put a small coil on it. Just see and hear what you have been missing. The main downside for me is that the small 5" coil covers so little ground. When all your detecting time is counted, it is a consideration.

Alternatively, check out Hunter GT's video tests of separation and recovery speed of the F19 (G2) and other Fisher/Tek detectors with nails. It's on youtube and easy to find.

 

[BH505Man]

No contest. The T2 is king of them all in picking through iron infested sites. The G2, Omega, Patriot, & F70 are just scaled back budget model takeoffs of the T2 & F75. IMHO.

 

[Tony (Michigan)]

No contest. The T2 is king of them all in picking through iron infested sites. The G2, Omega, Patriot, & F70 are just scaled back budget model takeoffs of the T2 & F75. IMHO.

I ordered the T2 Plus only with the stock coil.

 

[BH505Man]

Now all you need is a 5"DD coil for it to pick out the coins and good stuff from the iron junk!

 

[quicksilver]

G2+ not even a question. But that's just been my experience...

 

[Dave J.]

On iron infested sites, use a small searchchoil, and go slow, and methodically double-check any signal that sounds like it might be good.
On such sites, some people prefer a DD, others a concentric.

Then there's the question of how different model machines stack up on such sites.

T2 and F75 and their derivatives are good.
F70 and its derivatives are a little better.
GB/G2 and their derivatives are best.

The lower cost "Fratbros 13-bit platform" approx. 7.8 kHz machines are rather different, hard to make direct comparison. Of these, the F44 has a reputation for being the best in iron. On such sites it's probably in between the F70 and GB/G2 platform machines.

******** A SECRET WEAPON ********** works especially well with the GB/G2's ***************

On machines that can be manually ground balanced, set the ground balance to about 3. Then search in static pinpoint mode. Retune with the searchcoil about 1/2 inch above the ground surface and then lift slightly. You'll be silent searching and will not hear iron chatter. (Some iron objects will be detected, especially flat ones, but you won't get the constant chatter that you'd get in motion discrimination.) In silent search in static pinpoint mode, you can't hear threshold drift, so frequently repeat the retune maneuver.

 

[kevinnc]

Static mode trick sounds interesting. I played with it on my F75, but auto ground balanced. Running it like you described, how would sensitivity settings affect it?

 

[Dave J.]

Static mode trick sounds interesting. I played with it on my F75, but auto ground balanced. Running it like you described, how would sensitivity settings affect it?

Almost not at all. This trick is equivalent to turning it into an old-fashioned VLF-TR discriminator. It's not buying you any depth, it's buying you improved ability to silence iron. Not something you'd normally do, but on a "bed of nails" site, it can make the difference between searchable and not searchable.

 

[kevinnc]

I'm going to try it. Cool that the F75 gives ID numbers in that mode too.