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What is a good deal to make with landowner???

sonny32

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Here in Virginia, there are allot of farms and old homes dating back to the 1700's,, I know allot of these people but have never approached them for permission to MD their property.. But when and if I do is there an unwritten Deal to make with the landowner on the finds??? I know if I were to dig up a hidden stash from the early 1800's the land owner is not going to be happy if I were to walk off with all of it... Might find an something of sentimental value to the landowner.... Does anyone have an idea???
 
don't worry about deals, first get permission and that will be hard to do in Virginia.

If you get permission don't even mention a deal, you already have permission. If you find some things then maybe go offer some to the owner. Give him the junk and keep the goodies.
 
I hunt in Virginia, have had good luck with most land owners. Be up front with them,treat thieir land with the upmost respect. Offer to give them part of what you find,I have found most of the time they will pass. They just want to see your finds, give them history on you finds and even their land and homes. Good luck ,HH
 
Wanted this site really badly this is what it cost me for permission via govt and school Directors and committees.

Dear Wally,
The Barjarg directors discussed your request at our last meeting. We decided to give you permission to metal detect on the old school grounds. We note that you stated you will provide a signed statutory declaration that the mowing and detecting will be your own responsibility and liability and that you have your own public liability insurance. The statutory declaration can be dropped off when you collect the key from the shop. I will inform Joan and Graham at the shop about the decision. Of course you will need to ring and check that the place is available for you to work. For example this week you could go in Wednesday, Thursday and next week the same. The week after that it is free between the 11Th and the 18Th. Just give Joan a ring prior.
Thank you for offering to mow, it is a great help to keep our costs down. As you know Barjarg is run to provide students subsidized camps. We do not make a profit. Last weekend two volunteers mowed around the buildings. The outer grounds need slashing and around the buildings will need another cut in about two or three weeks.
Regards
Tony Henderson

Just a quick brief about the School it was erected in 1878 and consists of 5 acres .It closed in 1967 IT has since been a Holiday camp site for two schools .It has had many functions from all local areas during the early 1900's and picnic race days dances etc, I know it has never ever been detected.
Any way what I am going to do is mark out a 10x10 metre area at a time and use the standard concentric 7.5 khz coil which is great as the ground is not too highly mineralised mark targets with one colour golf tees.
Then the same with the elliptical 18.75 khz mark targets with golf tees with a different colour.
Then same with the 6'' 18.75 round.
Then I hope to find out a few consistent numbers and settings which I hope to share with you

Tally Pre Decimal 3 PENNYS
6 HALFPENNYS
1 BENT 1910 THREPENCE
2 SIXPENCES
1 SHILLING
1 1931 FLORIN
Decimal 3 - 50c
1 - 5c
4 - 1c
4 -10c
1 - 2c
The area covered was 7mt x 31Mt's Deepest coin about 2'' because the area I was detecting was under massive Pine trees. I guess the fibrous roots pushed or kept the targets on top also scraped about an inch of pine needle mulch away. Along way to go just doing all the shade trees as I was doing with 5 acres to go and the sport ground banks as well.
 
I agree wholeheartedly. Be upfront and treat them, and their land, with respect. If you follow any Metal Detector's Code of Conduct, you've already talked to them (prior to the hunt) to obtain permission. That is the best time to negotiate any division of finds. In my 38 years of detecting, I could count the number of times I've been turned down (to hunt), on one hand. And of the hundreds and thousands of places I've detected, the number of people who actually wanted a share of the booty could also be counted on one hand. I always ask if they are aware of any personal items (or family items) that are suspected to have been lost in their yard. I let them know I will pay special attention to those type of targets and will be happy to return them. Just because they are lost doesn't mean they were discarded.
We all need to be aware of, and interested in, what all this hobby has to offer. Not just interested in the number of finds we might make. This hobby provides an excellent platform to learn more about local histories and the people we call our neighbors. Just like Smith1 said, share (with them) any history you have about their property. You might put them more at ease by sharing some of the trials and tribulations you've encountered in past hunts. And whether or not they are interested in what you have to say, above all else, be respectful. Afterall, it is their property. JMHO HH Randy
 
I always get permission and very very few landowners even want to see what was I found let alone have it. I do on occasion show owners my finds, and have never yet have any of them want my finds. I did give one owner a religious medal this summer because their family built the house in 1859 and it has been owned by their family ever since so I knew it might mean something to them, and she was glad I gave it to her. But as far as coins, no homeowner I have ever dealt with has wanted anything, ususally they say "you did the work, you keep em"!!!.............and I am fine with that.

One person I approached about permission told me I could detect if I gave them 100% of my finds........I told them, I was not interested and good luck on that! :lol:
 
After I get permission, if they ask about my finds I offer red book value (according to condition) for any old coins I find. I carry the book with me and show them that I do. Usually before I go any further they just tell me I can keep what I find........ To complicated for them I guess. Some old homes in the downtown area look very promising, but most are rented. I offer a cold six pack to hunt their yard and they usually jump all over it! Bill
 
Bill M said:
After I get permission, if they ask about my finds I offer red book value (according to condition) for any old coins I find. Bill
wait a minute........you OFFER them money for coins that YOU found???? am I reading that right?
 
YEA! I offer, but no one ever takes the offer. I had one home site that was around 150 years old and I wanted to hunt it real bad, that was my bribe and it worked. After about 3 tries of asking!! They decided to let me keep what I found, the next week the owner bought 2 brand new 705's, they want let me hunt anymore. I was honest and showed them everything I found......oh well.
 
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