What I would like to see in the future, Two tone all-metal ID on the upper end models

[Old California]

What I would like to see in the future, Two tone all-metal ID on the upper end models....Two tone all-metal would enhance this mode helping the user find the smallest of finds (Gold nuggets, Small Gold jewelry, relics etc etc) without continuously watching the screen and go by audio instead, Then check the screen when the second tone responds which will be a target not of iron.

It's possible, Not a solid tone for iron but more like a broken (Staccato) audio as found on the Treasure Baron GoldTrax all-metal and with a solid tone for anything above iron.

And if possible, Have both a preset and an adjustable all-metal feature so the advanced user can adjust the Staccato audio sound and fine tune this level of iron allowance

Seriously, This would launch the detector into being more as an all-purpose detector. A detector for those who want to coin shoot, relic hunt, gold nugget hunt or search for the tiniest of finds (gold jewelry, thin gold chains etc etc) and find them with the greatest of ease.

Paul (Ca)

 

[Everett Cavanah]

Have you tried the GOLD-STRIKE

 

[Cal_Cobra]

Paul I believe you can already do this on the new F70.

 

[Jackpine Savage]

in fact I mentioned that to Dave after using your T2 last spring. It sure would be helpful to have that staccato iron sound to eliminate watching the screen all the time. FT should hire George on as a consultant!

Another thought would be to be able to set a small notch around the worst iron offender to quiet down the standard 2 tone mode a bit. That would let you know when you around iron yet keep the low iron tones at a manageable level so they don't drive ya .

HH Tom

 

[Old California]

Thanks Everett,

I wasn't aware GoldStrike had an all-metal two tone ID feature, I'll look into this later on Google search.

Thanks again,
Paul (Ca)

 

[Old California]

Thanks Cal Cobra,

I think the F-70 will only have all-metal visual ID signal tone? At least that is what I seen from Bill Ladd's video...I hope your right as that would be a cool feature to have.

Thanks again,
Paul (Ca)

 

[Old California]

Thanks Tom,

That is good you mentioned this to Dave last spring, Hopefully you planted a seed and Dave is already working on this for a future detector.

Funny, I thought the same as you about Fisher hiring George

Thanks again Tom and God bless,
Paul (Ca)

 

[BuckeyeBrad]

and maybe this is what you're alluding to in your third paragraph, OC. Why not have a user adjustable "break point" on the two tone audio? I know I've been finding a lot of good stuff that's coming in on the upper two or three numbers of the iron range, so I'd like to be able to have the detector include that in the higher tone if I choose to do so. Unless I'm missing something, it should be a pretty easy thing to do in the software.

 

[Steve(MS)]

Yes the older TB's have a tone break control also. Those were the features I liked most about the Treasure Baron. Only a few detectors have been made with anything close to these features. I like MH idea of selecting tone divisions to one's own choosing.

 

[Neil]

n/t

 

[BuckeyeBrad]

did the Baron actually offer the ability to variably break the tone anywhere in the iron range on up or was it just variably in the non-ferrous range? Same question on the Tesoro model mentioned. I'm talking a detector with lotsa iron resolution and being able to set the tone break anywhere in the whole ferrous/non ferrous spectrum.

 

[Old California]

Hello BuckeyeBrad,

I feel what you are saying can be done, They already have a mode so the nickel gives a high tone. So it should possible to have the higher 3-4 iron numbers respond as a high tone. It should be possible.

Now on the Baron, Yes a user can adjust the iron range even up high into the non-ferrous range with the all-metal mode. The Cointrax allows this neat all-metal two tone feature but lacks Numeral target all-metal ID but does have an iron LED light which alerts the user in addition with the iron staccato audio.

It sort of operates like the Goldtrax using the Staccato audio for iron signals but with the Cointrax the user can adjust this staccato audio even up into the non-ferrous range were as the GoldTrax is limited with staccato audio for iron only.

So yes it can be done with the Contrax all-metal being able to set the tone break anywhere in the whole ferrous/non ferrous spectrum, And instead of numeral ID it uses a set of red LED lights indicating it is iron or anywhere the user sets the break point and of course the staccato audio follows the break point as well.

HH, Paul

 

[BuckeyeBrad]

I had 4 Barons; 2 CT's, a Pro Hunter, and also a new Millenium II. Amazing detectors!! I've forgotten A LOT about them even though I put a boatload of study time into them learning their operation when I had them. The only other detector I've put more time into to make sure I was getting everything out of it was the DFX's. Needless to say, one of my efforts paid off well and the other didn't. I'd forgotten that using the disc control on the modulars (instead of the notch which worked with the segments represented by the lights) did what you said. If we were to see this detector we're talking about come to be, I'd like to see it have the dual range disc control, either on a push/pull single pot or better yet, two individual controls, like the standard and iron disc controls on the 1270. Sweet!

 

[BarnacleBill]

Mr. George Payne was being exhorted to develop a "Micro" version of the Cointrax/TB which could possibly incorporate some of these ideas. At the time if I remember correctly, there were several people making offers of assistance for the undertaking. Since then not much has been heard as far as I have seen. My only problem with the TB is the 20 year old interface for the number of functions to be accessed. If it had a control front end like the T2, F75, or X-Terra glued onto the front which made changing settings more intuitive, it would be more marketable. And it is no slouch in speed of recovery between targets.

I think the real future though is a USB interface, where the basic controls are on the front panel of the detector, with the more advanced functions adjustable for a "Personalized Detector" via a graphical computer interface. Several memory programs accessed from the front panel would allow you to customize them such as Relic1, Relic 2, or by location like Thunderhead Bay, Leapfrog Lake etc. You could then tweek them from the front panel if so desired, and once back at home download and save them for future trips. All of this is and has been do-able and economical for some time now, it's merely the manufacturers having the will and foresight to incorporate it.

HH
BarnacleBill

 

[Old California]

Hi Brad,

Looks like you've been around the block and then some using the Baron, Great detector for it's day even now they do well...

On the Fisher, It sure would be nice to see this all metal two-tone feature on future Fisher models.

I think it's the two latest CoinTrax chips that will allow a Two-tone all metal feature and with the newest chip (Version 2.20) provides even more improvements over the last chip.

Plus, I finally learned how to use the all-metal two-tone feature earlier this year, I've always been a slow learner

HH, Paul (Ca)

 

[Old California]

Hello Barnacle,

You're right, The Baron is no slouch on recovery speed especially with the GoldTrax or Prohunter modules. Lighting fast and great separation.

A USB interface would be nice, Maybe a manufacturer will eventually catch on and experiment with a simple model and if it shows promise continue with a much advanced model.

I think it was the Tekentics Mark 1 George was considering making into a Micro version, Since he had already improved on the Baron CoinTrax newest chip (2.20) many of the old times still favored the old Mark 1 and wanted a lighter Mark 1 version "Micro."

Let's hope your USB comes to light soon

HH, Paul (Ca)