what do you think?

[jessemxt]

Is this a case of not understanding the mxt or having a biased opinion what do you think? MXT vs cz-70
Larry D Gressel in Sweet Home, Oregon -
I met a man with an MXT the other day. He was complaining about how sensitive the thing was to hot rocks, so we both had a look at it. We had to turn the sensitivity down to between 3 and 6 (depending on the soil) and mostly at 4 just so he could use it without all that annoyance. We even turned the discriminate down, and that didn't help. I was using my Fisher cz-70, not my absolute deepest discriminator (My Compass is the deepest), but the best for separating trash from goodies, and the Big Bad Boy Fisher is also best for all-metal depth, including beating my Minelab Sovereign Elite Pro.
When I tossed a screwdriver down on the ground, the MXT COULD NOT completely cancel it, even when set to cancel nickles and pulltabs! It produced a "broken-up" sound. My Fisher could cancel it easily, and did a very nice job of it too. We found that in all cases, no matter how we set the sensitivity or discrimination, or ground-balance, etc, that there was a problem with hot rocks AND discriminating iron. I showed him that my Fisher didn't have that problem, and that at the most, it would make a soft sound in all-metal with hot rocks, but NO SOUND in discriminating hot rocks. The sound for hot rocks is very pleasing and soft-sounding (all-metal) with the Fisher and must be very close to the coil in order to read it. There is no setting on the Fisher, it just does it by itself.

The depth in all-metal and discriminate was ALWAYS 1-3 inches deeper with the Fisher, and it ran so, soooo much smoother than did the MXT! The meter on the MXT was really horrible. Every time we looked, it bounced around all over the place and gave wrong readings, often calling a penny "iron", but it (was) pretty accurate for reading depth.

I know my Fisher very well, and although it doen't have a depth meter, I always know what the coin depth is, and it really amazed the man that I could tell the depth that way, and without a meter. If I had $500 to spend on a detector, I certainlay wouldn't throw it away on one of those MXT's. I would buy a Fisher ID or a Compass Coinscanner, or a Minelab, or even a Bounty Hunter. This is the second MXT I've put the Fisher up against, and I won't waste my time wondering about it any more.

I've had the same experience with other White's, especially the DFX. The MXT is not a very good detector. It likes iron and hot rocks too much, and now I know why it is on sale. I own 15 metal detectors, of various brands. Don't waste your money on an MXT when you can get a better detector for the same $$$.



Larry
Jan 24, 2006
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[OldeTymer]

I found this statement both interesting, and revealing:

"I know my Fisher very well, and although it doen't have a depth meter, I always know what the coin depth is, and it really amazed the man that I could tell the depth that way, and without a meter."

Besides my Fisher CZ, I also own an MXT and haven't noticed any propensity toward "hot rocks". There are some things it does better than my CZ, and visa versa. The same goes for my XL Pro. I like all of them for the certain things they do better than others under certain conditions.

I would take that "review" with a grain of salt.

OldeTymer
TheTreasureLeague.com

 

[Scottowl]

The first thing I noticed was that he ws from Sweet Home. He is trying to have us believe that Whites could be beat in soil from that area. He must be a disgruntled ex-employee!

It is possible this MXT was faulty, or the coil was bad. I have pulled coins out of holes that had iron in and around them dozens of times. As far as the screwdriver trick, relic mode would have sniffed it out, unless it had a brass handle. Assuming the detector was functioning correctly, of course.

Now that I have a little time in with my MXT I can gauge the depth of the target by the pinpoint signal intensity. I use the 6x10 elliptical coil, and find it is not accurate at reading depth. It usually says 2" deeper than actual.

All in all, I hope this dude convinces many people to stay away from the MXT. Leave the coins and jewelry for us 'idiots' that are too dumb to use another brand name.

 

[boxtopp]

That's odd he mention all that about the mxt.
I live here in Los Banos, Ca. where they build
fishers and had the opportunity to test many fisher
detectors and the on out-come I came up with is
the fishers seem to like iron a lot. I believe
the fellow who wrote the review up above has issues.
He is a hater, hater.

 

[coolguy]

I use my mxt in relic mode for coins and don't have any problems with iron, you know it is there but there is a different sound for iron. I was shooting coins at this school yard and noticed these nail on the ground and still got coins at 3 inches with no trouble. You have to learn what your machine is telling you,this may be part of the problem he was having.I have had my mxt for 2 months and i am still leaning.
Bill

 

[brobox]

I own both machines and my Fisher LOVES iron. He can say what he wants but in an iron infested area the CZ stays in the truck and I grab the MXT. I am a relic hunter, I hunt the MXT in relic mode, disc 3 1/2, sens 8 and the trigger forward. All I get with big iron is a grunt or 2 before it discriminates out. With the CZ I can crank the disc. up to 8 and the iron is still giving a good signal. If that's better than the MXT he has a different way of hunting than I do.

Chuck in Cape Coral

 

[ralph]

I'd second that. I've a cz,a mxt and a ace250. The cz goes deep,but it does love nails,also if you try to cover more ground it'll false or miss targets. Ive had many good finds with it,but prefer the mxt which which i also have many good finds. Often i'm time constrained and prefer to cover more ground- the mxt does this very well,and i feel the id on the mxt is more definitive.

 

[Jackpine Savage]

n/t

 

[TRACY IN TN]

I JUST SOLD MY CZ I HAD FOR YEARS ...MXT SMOKES RELICS...IF IORN IS REAL THICK I USE OLD TESORO...FISH=LOVE IRON....JUST MY TAKE

 

[Mike Livingston]

All I can say is I hunt sand in the 80+ range, relic mode, DD coil
sens 10 or plus, disc 3, auto trac on, trigger center. Yes it is noisy like that, there is even interference from electrical high lines, and the meter does jump around but if it has a good solid sound and some of the same numbers keep showing it always a good target. I never get any nails. I took my water proof machine, they say it uses a fisher board, in the same sand at Disc 2-3, sensitivity 9, and was popping up small nails all over the place. I had no idea there was that many nails in the volley ball court until then. Another problem with the MXT is that often you will get a good target that is so small the sand scoop won't work and you have to pass the sand over the coil with your hand one scoop at a time until you find it. Now thats a problem ain't it? I have many small pieces of jewelery fond like that. As for depth I buried a copper penny at a measured 8 inches and the MXT with my 8" coil set at above settings was getting very hard audio hits with a consistent VDI and the water
proof machine with 8" coil got zilch, nadah, even with Disc 0, and has never found the tiny stuff like the MXT has.
Come to think of it I can't remember digging any iron with it or my 6000 Pro XL and I been at it since 1977.

 

[gerber]

Sure sounds like a bad coil to me. The stock coil on my son's MXT went bad, and it exhibited lots of erratic noisiness and this propensity to sound off at everything. At this point, the coil was completely worthless. Personally, I prefer the 6x10 DD coil, which I've had no problems with. Only rarely do I mistakenly dig up iron targets, and I regularly run the discrimination at 1!! I'll get the occasional nail that rings high on an intermittent swing, but typically the readings are such that I should have known better than to dig.

HH,

Dan